Feminism & The War on Men

[Fanosolia]

Shameless repost.
[link to a tumblr post with yet more links]

Trigger warning; this link to links may trigger one of your triggers, so I'm warning you with this warning.

Oh my god! I never knew it was that bad!

[Des-Bal]

in what world does a business look at the guys health record?

I'm not talking about actually evaluating the health record I'm talking about the likelihood of a person taking time off. Women are substantially more likely than men to take time off to raise children and immeasurably more likely to become temporarily disabled as a product of pregnancy.

[Fanosolia]

in what world does a business look at the guys health record?

I'm not talking about actually evaluating the health record I'm talking about the likelihood of a person taking time off. Women are substantially more likely than men to take time off to raise children and immeasurably more likely to become temporarily disabled as a product of pregnancy.

Okay, that makes sense. But I'm pretty sure that's not what a sick day is.

[Des-Bal]

Is that a link to Stormfront? No, I've somehow seen way less stupid there.

A biased source is only invalid when you suspect that source is lying. I haven't read everything but there doesn't seem to be anything to suggest the sources aren't credible.

[Des-Bal]

Okay, that makes sense. But I'm pretty sure that's not what a sick day is.

I'm confident it's not, that was part of a parallel/analogy/metaphor.

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in what world does a business look at the guys health record?

I'm not talking about actually evaluating the health record I'm talking about the likelihood of a person taking time off. Women are substantially more likely than men to take time off to raise children and immeasurably more likely to become temporarily disabled as a product of pregnancy.

Which is essential saying our slave-owners capitalists can punish people for having a life outside of the company they work for. "Having a kid, fuck you, production is down!"

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Is that a link to Stormfront? No, I've somehow seen way less stupid there.

A biased source is only invalid when you suspect that source is lying. I haven't read everything but there doesn't seem to be anything to suggest the sources aren't credible.

Tumblr misogynists are invalid because they're Tumblr misogynists.

[WestRedMaple]

The problem is that feminism isn't focused on gender egalitirianism but the advancement of women

Really know? Have proof of this? The Feminist movement is very decentralized, so many people use the term without understanding what it means.

Continuing down the path of gender equality can't be done from the perspective that the struggle is men v women rather than an effort to correct societal ills.

It's never been a struggle seen as "Men vs Women", but rather, "White Heterosexual Male dominated culture v Everyone else". Correcting societal ills by targeting them directly is a pretty decent path. Also, this whole argument that men need a movement too or men are oppressed to is a joke. Men are legitimately oppressed in a few instances, like Divorce cases with custody of children, but for every one male that is oppressed there are dozens of women.

How is acknowledging the fact that in various ways men are discriminated against in America a joke?

I do reject the term feminism. Any movement actually aiming for equality should equally embrace males, female, and intersex.

[Des-Bal]

Which is essential saying our slave-owners capitalists can punish people for having a life outside of the company they work for. "Having a kid, fuck you, production is down!"

Only if you believe "I want to hire the most productive workers possible" constitutes punishment which implies 1, that you're entitled to any job you apply for ,and 2 that limited capacity to work is a subject of personal interest and is beyond the interest of an employer.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

I'm not talking about actually evaluating the health record I'm talking about the likelihood of a person taking time off. Women are substantially more likely than men to take time off to raise children and immeasurably more likely to become temporarily disabled as a product of pregnancy.

Which is essential saying our slave-owners capitalists can punish people for having a life outside of the company they work for. "Having a kid, fuck you, production is down!"

Having a child is a choice. Slaves don't get choices.

[Benuty]

How the hell did this go from a ridiculous premise to flat out discussion about capitalism, and slavery?

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Which is essential saying our slave-owners capitalists can punish people for having a life outside of the company they work for. "Having a kid, fuck you, production is down!"

Having a child is a choice. Slaves don't get choices.

It's called wage slavery.

[Des-Bal]

Tumblr misogynists are invalid because they're Tumblr misogynists.

And if one of them says gravity is real you'll float away. That was a list of links elaborating on some of the very alarming behavior on the part of radical (and more disturbingly not so radical) feminists, it was posted by an intensely angry person and if the crux of the issue was that person's subjective interpretation or any line of logic created by them I'd understand your indictment but what you're arguing at this point is that if lunatic posts a link the content of that link is inaccurate.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Having a child is a choice. Slaves don't get choices.

It's called wage slavery.

Wage slavery is a fundamentally flawed concept.

[Inzijard]

It's called wage slavery.

Wage slavery is a fundamentally flawed concept.

[Citation needed]

[Fanosolia]

Okay, that makes sense. But I'm pretty sure that's not what a sick day is.

I'm confident it's not, that was part of a parallel/analogy/metaphor.

I was saying I don't see how it's comparable, since, unless you mention a health condition, there's no way to know the chance percentage of a sick day. Pregnancy is 100% (theoretically since they have the capability of birthing a child) but only if the woman has made that choice. Well in the best case scenario anyways. you don't willingly get sick.

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Tumblr misogynists are invalid because they're Tumblr misogynists.

And if one of them says gravity is real you'll float away. That was a list of links elaborating on some of the very alarming behavior on the part of radical (and more disturbingly not so radical) feminists, it was posted by an intensely angry person and if the crux of the issue was that person's subjective interpretation or any line of logic created by them I'd understand your indictment but what you're arguing at this point is that if lunatic posts a link the content of that link is inaccurate.

The links are all sensationalist titled "women are trying to do bad things."

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Okay, that makes sense. But I'm pretty sure that's not what a sick day is.

I'm confident it's not, that was part of a parallel/analogy/metaphor.

You should really stop using those. They're not your strong suit.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Wage slavery is a fundamentally flawed concept.

[Citation needed]

Citation provided.

[Fanosolia]

How the hell did this go from a ridiculous premise to flat out discussion about capitalism, and slavery?

maternity leave? You know what? on top of that, what do people think of paternity leave? (since it's a mra and feminist issue)

I'm neutral.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

The links are all sensationalist titled "women are trying to do bad things."

"Feminists threaten to kill woman for saying men need abuse shelters."
Sensors aren't detecting any sensationalism, cap'n. Seems pretty straightforward actually.

[WestRedMaple]

Which is essential saying our slave-owners capitalists can punish people for having a life outside of the company they work for. "Having a kid, fuck you, production is down!"

Only if you believe "I want to hire the most productive workers possible" constitutes punishment which implies 1, that you're entitled to any job you apply for ,and 2 that limited capacity to work is a subject of personal interest and is beyond the interest of an employer.

Agreed. How likely it is that a person will miss work is directly related to job performance. The reason someone is gone doesn't change the fact that they ARE gone.

Something not having a positive impact on someone's life is not the same thing as it being a punishment.

[Inzijard]

[Citation needed]

Citation provided.

That does not provide any explanation as to why wage slavery is a fundamentally flawed concept, much less prove it to be so. You're going to have to do better than that.

[Des-Bal]

The links are all sensationalist titled "women are trying to do bad things."

Irrefutable Evidence That the Reptile Controlled Fiddler Crab Drug Cartels of the New World Order Are Preying On YOUR Children

The Emancipation Proclamation never happened now. I had no idea that we as internet folk had this awesome power. In retrospect I should have linked that to some horrible historical tragedy and saved people rather than prevent the freeing of the slaves.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Citation provided.

That does not provide any explanation as to why wage slavery is a fundamentally flawed concept, much less prove it to be so. You're going to have to do better than that.

If that doesn't illuminate you, nothing will. Sorry, there's nothing I can do at this point. You're too far gone.