What side would you support in the Russian Revolution?

[Greater Weselton]

He was trying to save his country.

that was in the shitter in the first place because of him and where did that get him?

He was forced to abdicate.

He was trying to save his country.

By going to war (and losing a war) with Japan, killing his people when they were against him, and then starting a war with Germany and Austria that cost the lives of millions of his people?

He had an alliance to protect with France.

[The balkens]

that was in the shitter in the first place because of him and where did that get him?

He was forced to abdicate.

By going to war (and losing a war) with Japan, killing his people when they were against him, and then starting a war with Germany and Austria that cost the lives of millions of his people?

He had an alliance to protect with France.

No, he was killed. dead, gone and thrown down a mine-shaft apparently

[The New Sea Territory]

The poll, if it were accurate, should include all of the following:

The Red Army (Bolsheviks)
The Provisional Government
The Armed Forces of South Russia
The Army of the Don Republic
The Komuch
Kuban People's Republic
The Alash Autonomous State
Ukrainian People's Republic
The Mountain Republic
The People's Republic of Azerbaijan
The First Armenian Republic
The Democratic Republic of Georgia
The Black Army/Free Territory of Ukraine
The Black Hundreds
The Crimean People's Republic
The Green Army
The Anti-Bolshevik Left SR Uprising
The Soviet Baltic Fleet Mutiny/Armed Citizens of Kronstadt/Kronstadt Commune
The Basmachi Movement
The Western Intervention
West Russian Volunteer Army and other German Interventions

I really, really, really hate it when people believe all civil wars are as simple as the American Civil War, where there were two sides, one lost and one bent the loser over and sodomized them, and it's that simple. Nothing about history is THAT simple. There are also dozens of various uprisings and de facto states that are lost due to the poor Soviet records that existed in the Far East, supported by Chinese volunteers or representing various ethnic minorities. So, for the sake of historical accuracy but at the same time being practical, simplify it to: White Movement, Provisional Government, Anarchists, SR Uprisings, Ukrainian Nationalists, Russian Nationalists, Islamic Rebels or "other".

[Bojikami]

Power to the Soviets! Kill the Tsar!

[Zerinfriom]

The Soviets,

Because we needed Stalin too pimp slap hitler

[The New Sea Territory]

The Soviets,

Because we needed Stalin too pimp slap hitler

"The Soviets" refers to a collection of various left-wing organizations under the provisional government and afterwards. I think you mean, to be accurate and specific, The Bolsheviks.

[Zerinfriom]

The Soviets,

Because we needed Stalin too pimp slap hitler

"The Soviets" refers to a collection of various left-wing organizations under the provisional government and afterwards. I think you mean, to be accurate and specific, The Bolsheviks.

Oh yeah.

Sorry. Forgot my Russian history.

[Conserative Morality]

Provisional government, no question.

[Bojikami]

The Soviets,

Because we needed Stalin too pimp slap hitler

This, this is being siged.

[Republika Srpska Party]

Bolsheviks.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

Provisional government, no question.

and what do you call "provisional government"?

[Zerinfriom]

The Soviets,

Because we needed Stalin too pimp slap hitler

This, this is being siged.

You have my permission too replace Soviets with Bolsheviks.

[The New Sea Territory]

Provisional government, no question.

and what do you call "provisional government"?

Either this

Or

This

[The New Sea Territory]

The common people.

....Kronstadt, The Green Armies and the Black Army?

[Distruzio]

The kind of "good Christian man" who starts massive wars which kill millions of people, then has his troops shoot down the protesters that rise because of it?

He was trying to save his country.

As much a monarchist as I am I have to disagree with you there. Nicolas was definitely out to save himself - country be damned. Perhaps, had he listened to British Ambassador Sir George Buchanan, we'd have some evidence he cared for his country. But, alas, the man was determined to play ignorance.

[United Marxist Nations]

that was in the shitter in the first place because of him and where did that get him?

He was forced to abdicate.

By going to war (and losing a war) with Japan, killing his people when they were against him, and then starting a war with Germany and Austria that cost the lives of millions of his people?

He had an alliance to protect with France.

He was forced to abdicate because he was doing such a shit job at running the country.

What are you talking about? The Tsar started the War:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Willy% ... espondence

All he had to do was mobilize against Austria, and Germany would have been okay with that, but he mobilized against Germany too, which caused them to declare war.

[Distruzio]

The poll, if it were accurate, should include all of the following:

The Red Army (Bolsheviks)
The Provisional Government
The Armed Forces of South Russia
The Army of the Don Republic
The Komuch
Kuban People's Republic
The Alash Autonomous State
Ukrainian People's Republic
The Mountain Republic
The People's Republic of Azerbaijan
The First Armenian Republic
The Democratic Republic of Georgia
The Black Army/Free Territory of Ukraine
The Black Hundreds
The Crimean People's Republic
The Green Army
The Anti-Bolshevik Left SR Uprising
The Soviet Baltic Fleet Mutiny/Armed Citizens of Kronstadt/Kronstadt Commune
The Basmachi Movement
The Western Intervention
West Russian Volunteer Army and other German Interventions

I really, really, really hate it when people believe all civil wars are as simple as the American Civil War, where there were two sides, one lost and one bent the loser over and sodomized them, and it's that simple. Nothing about history is THAT simple. There are also dozens of various uprisings and de facto states that are lost due to the poor Soviet records that existed in the Far East, supported by Chinese volunteers or representing various ethnic minorities. So, for the sake of historical accuracy but at the same time being practical, simplify it to: White Movement, Provisional Government, Anarchists, SR Uprisings, Ukrainian Nationalists, Russian Nationalists, Islamic Rebels or "other".

Very true. Very true, indeed.

[United Marxist Nations]

That the Russian Civil War was color-coded makes it great.

[Cyrisnia]

The Polish side.

[Benuty]

The Polish side.

They hardly were the only ones to have reason in the war.

[Zerinfriom]

That the Russian Civil War was color-coded makes it great.

Yep In the American Civil War.

I like to call it the Southern Rebellion

We had Yankees Northerners etc etc

While we Had Southerns, and Confederates.

Just too have this post be meaningful too the thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Revolution

Read up.

[The New Sea Territory]

That the Russian Civil War was color-coded makes it great.

Yep In the American Civil War.

I like to call it the Southern Rebellion

"That thare waw wuz akchoowally callud the Waw of Northun Aggreshun."

[Zerinfriom]

Yep In the American Civil War.

I like to call it the Southern Rebellion

"That thare waw wuz akchoowally callud the Waw of Northun Aggreshun."

Lawl.

[The New Sea Territory]

That the Russian Civil War was color-coded makes it great.

For the most part, it was. There were Reds, Greens, Blacks, Whites and... that's it.

[United Marxist Nations]

That the Russian Civil War was color-coded makes it great.

Yep In the American Civil War.

I like to call it the Southern Rebellion

We had Yankees Northerners etc etc

While we Had Southerns, and Confederates.

Just too have this post be meaningful too the thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Revolution

Read up.

I'm aware, I was making a humorous remark about the Red Army, the White Army (and the Black Baron, are trying to restore the Imperial throne, but from the Taiga to the British Sea, our Red Army is Strongest of All!), Green Army, etc.