What side would you support in the Russian Revolution?

[Greater Weselton]

The Russian Revolution was a major turning point in history. You had the hardcore socialist Bolsheviks against the moderate socialists in the Provisional Government. They were both against the Tsar. Which side would you support? I would support the Tsar.

[United Marxist Nations]

Bolsheviks, obviously. Why the hell would you support the Tsar? He was incompetent, and life under him was terrible, there was a literacy rate of around 20% in rural areas (12% for women), most were in poverty, and the life expectancy was terrible.

[Al Nahar]

Can someone tell me what the provisional government was?

[Sklavinia]

The Czar was a disgrace to Imperial Russia, Lenin was a villain and Stalin was a monster, so that leaves the only real side to support: The Republic of Russia. Nobody even gave Kerensky a chance. We could've been a free, democratic republic, but NO, the Allies decided it we weren't worth the effort! Thanks to the West we endured 69 years of brutal oppression, outright lies and propaganda, and the a flawed ideology that ran our glorious nation into the ground only for Yeltsin to pop up with a shovel and run it even deeper down there.

Though alternatively, had the Czar not lost, since he abdicated he probably would've been replaced and a better Czar could've been put on the throne and fixed everything. But no, the Provisional Government was the best choice at the time.

[Sklavinia]

Can someone tell me what the provisional government was?

Our first attempt at becoming a democracy.

[United Marxist Nations]

Can someone tell me what the provisional government was?

When the Tsar abdicated, the State Duma took over.

[United Marxist Nations]

Can someone tell me what the provisional government was?

Our first attempt at becoming a democracy.

To really have a functional democracy though, you need more of the population to be literate, or you're going to have problems with an informed electorate.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Hardcore socialist Bolsheviks.
I don't want to miscarry my baby even though I'm the daughter of the Tsar. No, he didn't attack me till I miscarried....
I just fell down some stairs...

[Sisterhood]

I think the Bolsheviks because the Tsar was such a foolish man...

[Dejanic]

Well I certainly wouldn't support the Tsar, his regime was horrifically evil, it's no wonder people turned to the Bolsheviks who assuming I was a working person in Russia, I would of probably supported.

[Sklavinia]

Our first attempt at becoming a democracy.

To really have a functional democracy though, you need more of the population to be literate, or you're going to have problems with an informed electorate.

Well, that's something the government could've fixed and the West help fix. BUT, that didn't happen.

[Flyover]

To really have a functional democracy though, you need more of the population to be literate, or you're going to have problems with an informed electorate.

Well, that's something the government could've fixed and the West help fix. BUT, that didn't happen.

You can fix literally any problem the Tsar had with this excuse. Or any problem the dirty reds had, for that matter.

That being said, the dirty reds were the lesser of two evils.

[Auctorithas]

Provisional Government.
If the Tsar was not a fool I may have thought about it.
We all know how the Bolsheviks went.

[Sklavinia]

Well, that's something the government could've fixed and the West help fix. BUT, that didn't happen.

You can fix literally any problem the Tsar had with this excuse. Or any problem the dirty reds had, for that matter.

That being said, the dirty reds were the lesser of two evils.

There were three evils, and the Bolsheviks sure as hell were not the lesser.

[Ironbarrow]

Doesn't matter, Communists won.

[The United Regions]

I would have created my own LIbertarian Capitalist Faction "Long LIve The Republic"

[Arana]

I would certainly support the Bolsheviks. Regardless of what may be said about them, they made most things about Russia better, and that was during a civil war. If it hadn't been for Stalin absolutely ruining everything, who knows what they could have accomplished during a period of peace?

[United Marxist Nations]

I would certainly support the Bolsheviks. Regardless of what may be said about them, they made most things about Russia better, and that was during a civil war. If it hadn't been for Stalin absolutely ruining everything, who knows what they could have accomplished during a period of peace?

"Ruining everything". You mean having some unforseen things happen that fuck your administration over?

[Sklavinia]

I would have created my own LIbertarian Capitalist Faction "Long LIve The Republic"

Which would've been pointless since such a faction already existed.

Christ, have none of you heard of the Republic of Russia?

[Discords Equstria]

Bolsheviks! Lenin was one of the few communists i look up too completely. If lenin had a actual chance to lead a peaceful Russia. the country would have been a much better place

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Bolsheviks, obviously. Why the hell would you support the Tsar? He was incompetent, and life under him was terrible, there was a literacy rate of around 20% in rural areas (12% for women), most were in poverty, and the life expectancy was terrible.

I think it's rather unfair to count the 20% literacy rating against Nicholas. It was that low when he took the throne, but amoung the few good things he did was institute educational reform and increase spending on peasant and rural schooling.

It's difficult to see how successful this was directly, since the 1897 census (where that number comes from,) is the last one performed in the empire. However, we DO have records about the percentage of literate soldiers recruited or conscripted into the military, which rose from 35% in 1899 to 65% in 1912. This was mostly concentrated in European Russia, of course, but it did make the Soviet's job a lot easier there. They do still deserve some credit for bringing literacy to central asia, though.

[Rio Cana]

Russias monarchy fell in 1917 while Chinas monarchy fell in 1912. Both went kind of through the same problems. Most of the population was not use to democracy. Elites/warlords in control of regions/provinces that want to maintain there power. A democratic government would be hard press to control them. Another example would be Germany whose Monarchy also fell but in 1918. The so called democratic Weimar Republic could not cope. The Germans were not use to democracy. Then the problem of certain regions and elite in Germany pushing there own agendas.

[Sklavinia]

Bolsheviks! Lenin was one of the few communists i look up too completely. If lenin had a actual chance to lead a peaceful Russia. the country would have been a much better place

It is quite literally impossible for an extremists to make a country a better place.

[United Marxist Nations]

Bolsheviks, obviously. Why the hell would you support the Tsar? He was incompetent, and life under him was terrible, there was a literacy rate of around 20% in rural areas (12% for women), most were in poverty, and the life expectancy was terrible.

I think it's rather unfair to count the 20% literacy rating against Nicholas. It was that low when he took the throne, but amoung the few good things he did was institute educational reform and increase spending on peasant and rural schooling.

It's difficult to see how successful this was directly, since the 1897 census (where that number comes from,) is the last one performed in the empire. However, we DO have records about the percentage of literate soldiers recruited or conscripted into the military, which rose from 35% in 1899 to 65% in 1912. This was mostly concentrated in European Russia, of course, but it did make the Soviet's job a lot easier there. They do still deserve some credit for bringing literacy to central asia, though.

Ah, but you see, the literacy qualifications for conscription and for the census were different. In the military, being able to read the alphabet and your name was enough, while in the census, only actual literacy counted.

[Greater Beggnig]

Kerensky FTW.
But to be honest, he was a little useless. Arming the Bolsheviks to fight Kornilov was an idiotic move, but he couldn't rely on anyone else really, not that he could rely on the Bolsheviks.