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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:24 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Aurulie wrote:Who cares, religion wouldn't be allowed in the U.S. I want.


That's a disappointing perspective.

Not really, we'd be better off.

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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:24 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Scomagia wrote:So you're completely full of shit and like to twist words when it suits you, then twist them again when they don't. My, my, my, you do sound a lot like Stalin.

No, Stalin was evil, I'm trying to get the government to save lives.


Reason and the scientific method, not government, will create both a freer and safer society.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:24 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
That's a disappointing perspective.

Not really, we'd be better off.

According to whom?
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:24 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Bribery galore, yes indeed.

If Aurile becomes President, I'll join the police force just so you can make as much as you want. :hug:
#teambribebooze

If we're doing this, I want in. :p
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:24 pm

Aurulie wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Again, where are we getting all these cops?

By recruiting.

Let me dumb this down so you can understand this.

Say you need 1,000,000 new cops to enforce prohibition.

Say you only have 10,000 people willing and qualified to fill these positions.

How can you enforce prohibition when you have 1% of the manpower you need?
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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:25 pm

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The Saint James Islands wrote:The only people you'd ever get to sign up for that are the ones who'd be corrupt enough to have the whole system fall apart.

1984 isn't a guidebook for Arceus's sake...

I've never read "1984" and people who are tired of seeing drinking related deaths.

You really don't get it. By all these draconian measures you're creating more death then you're preventing. Prohibition is a clear example of this. The war on drugs is a clear example of this. Suppressing fundamental freedoms in America? You're asking for a coup. That will be a LOT of violence. Violence tends to kill people which, ironically, should be the thing we're trying to prevent.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:25 pm

Aurulie wrote:
The Saint James Islands wrote:The only people you'd ever get to sign up for that are the ones who'd be corrupt enough to have the whole system fall apart.

1984 isn't a guidebook for Arceus's sake...

I've never read "1984" and people who are tired of seeing drinking related deaths.

I'd love to hear your plans for funding this project and where we would have the space for all this data.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:25 pm

Inzijard wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Fixed post for accuracy. :p

Democratic People's Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.


Why do authoritarian left wingers always insist on putting the word democratic in the name of their political system or nation name. It's most puzzling, do they really think people are that dumb that they will read the word and think "I live in the most democratic place in the world, any country that does not think so is fascist."
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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:25 pm

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WestRedMaple wrote:

Since you made no attempt to answer it. You weren't asked how they would be employed to do this.

First by getting hired and second by patroling their district.


So, in an attempt to avoid the question, you continue to 'answer' things you weren't even asked.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:26 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Aurulie wrote:By recruiting.

Let me dumb this down so you can understand this.

Say you need 1,000,000 new cops to enforce prohibition.

Say you only have 10,000 people willing and qualified to fill these positions.

How can you enforce prohibition when you have 1% of the manpower you need?


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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:26 pm

The Saint James Islands wrote:
Cyrisnia wrote:If Aurile becomes President, I'll join the police force just so you can make as much as you want. :hug:
#teambribebooze

If we're doing this, I want in. :p

Sure thing. The more screws on the pay role, the better.
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:26 pm

WestRedMaple wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
That's a disappointing perspective.



And directly contradicting the claim to be supporting freedom.

No, freedom is overrated, religion and drinking are destructive.

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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:27 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Inzijard wrote:Democratic People's Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.


Why do authoritarian left wingers always insist on putting the word democratic in the name of their political system or nation name. It's most puzzling, do they really think people are that dumb that they will read the word and think "I live in the most democratic place in the world, any country that does not is fascist."

Are you suggesting that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is not democratic? Haha, that's absurd. Shows what you know! :p
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:27 pm

Immoren wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Let me dumb this down so you can understand this.

Say you need 1,000,000 new cops to enforce prohibition.

Say you only have 10,000 people willing and qualified to fill these positions.

How can you enforce prohibition when you have 1% of the manpower you need?


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Ah, we'd force people or get foreigners.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:27 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:

And directly contradicting the claim to be supporting freedom.

No, freedom is overrated, religion and drinking are destructive.

So you claim to be pro-freedom, then say it's overrated. You've truly mastered double-think.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:27 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Aurulie wrote:By recruiting.

Let me dumb this down so you can understand this.

Say you need 1,000,000 new cops to enforce prohibition.

Say you only have 10,000 people willing and qualified to fill these positions.

How can you enforce prohibition when you have 1% of the manpower you need?


And if I might add who is policing these cops to make sure they are not corrupt and running black market operations?
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Postby T Roosevelt » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:27 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Aurulie wrote:By recruiting.

Let me dumb this down so you can understand this.

Say you need 1,000,000 new cops to enforce prohibition.

Say you only have 10,000 people willing and qualified to fill these positions.

How can you enforce prohibition when you have 1% of the manpower you need?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:28 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:

And directly contradicting the claim to be supporting freedom.

No, freedom is overrated, religion and drinking are destructive.

Don't you mean, freedom is overrated when people don't use it the way you want them to? Because that's an inevitable consequence of freedom.
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Postby Distruzio » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:28 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
That's a disappointing perspective.

Not really, we'd be better off.


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Postby The Saint James Islands » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:28 pm

Scomagia wrote:
The Saint James Islands wrote:If we're doing this, I want in. :p

Sure thing. The more screws on the pay role, the better.

My day has been made! :D As long as I get at least five percent, I'm fine.
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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:28 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Draft.
OBv.

Ah, we'd force people or get foreigners.

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Postby Distruzio » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:29 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:

And directly contradicting the claim to be supporting freedom.

No, freedom is overrated, religion and drinking are destructive.


What does religion destroy the the Union these days?
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:29 pm

The Saint James Islands wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Sure thing. The more screws on the pay role, the better.

My day has been made! :D As long as I get at least five percent, I'm fine.

Done and done.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:29 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Aurulie wrote:Not really, we'd be better off.


Who is we?


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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:29 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:

And directly contradicting the claim to be supporting freedom.

No, freedom is overrated, religion and drinking are destructive.



And yet you falsely claimed to be supporting freedom earlier.

Oppression is far more destructive, yet you fully support it. How do you reconcile all the contradictions in your stated position?

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