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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:07 pm

Immoren wrote:If we ban alcohol. Do we then drown our sorrows into ice cream instead of alcohol?

Nope, it's been suggested that everyone's portions should be monitored as well.
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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:07 pm

Nord Amour wrote:
Inzijard wrote:Scissors are harmful. What is your stance on scissors?


People can not be trusted with scissors. Scissors kill more people on average each year than zombies and Darth Vader combined. Scissors must be banned.

This is consistent with the current logic of the thread.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:07 pm

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Scomagia wrote:You've repeatedly to answer mine, though. For instance, do you plan on monitoring every single home?

Yes, by daily police checks, and cameras.

Impossible.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:08 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Immoren wrote:If we ban alcohol. Do we then drown our sorrows into ice cream instead of alcohol?

Nope, it's been suggested that everyone's portions should be monitored as well.

I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:09 pm

Immoren wrote:If we ban alcohol. Do we then drown our sorrows into ice cream instead of alcohol?

No, because it'll give you diabetes.
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Postby The Saint James Islands » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:09 pm

A quick answer to the OP: hell no. We've learned this lesson over and over again: prohibition doesn't work.
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Scomagia wrote:You've repeatedly to answer mine, though. For instance, do you plan on monitoring every single home?

Yes, by daily police checks, and cameras.

This isn't Orwellian in the slightest... >_>
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:10 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Aurulie wrote:Obama is right wing and socialism wasn't implemented correctly in the USSR.

Obama is Center-left and the USSR, while arguably not Socialist, was certainly leftist.

An extreme form of socialism, Stalinism, and look how quickly Russia under the USSR became modernised, socialism caused that.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:10 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Nope, it's been suggested that everyone's portions should be monitored as well.

I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

I can't remember the specifics, but when Narnia started a thread suggesting cameras in every home, Gallo did the math and found that, in order to store the data, we'd need to use up like half of Montana or some such.
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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:11 pm

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Scomagia wrote:Obama is Center-left and the USSR, while arguably not Socialist, was certainly leftist.

An extreme form of socialism, Stalinism, and look how quickly Russia under the USSR became modernised, socialism caused that.

[Citation needed]
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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:11 pm

T Roosevelt wrote:
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Why?

They hurt the national work ethic, and fraternity.

Why work when you can drink liquor and smoke reefers?


I haven't seen any actual evidence that they hurt the work ethic. And there wouldn't be any reason to give a damn regardless.

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Millions of people starved to death in the USSR. Obama is continuing to promote the American war machine. I need stronger evidence.

Obama is right wing and socialism wasn't implemented correctly in the USSR.


And I'm sure you know exactly how quack left-wing authoritarianism can be implemented appropriately?

I would love to see the actual math that demonstrates how socialism could work. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:12 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Obama is Center-left and the USSR, while arguably not Socialist, was certainly leftist.

An extreme form of socialism, Stalinism, and look how quickly Russia under the USSR became modernised, socialism caused that.

So was it or was it not Socialist. You seem to be very inconsistent here. You take every positive thing and attribute it to Socialism, yet dismiss failures and deaths as being not-Socialism.
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:12 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Nope, it's been suggested that everyone's portions should be monitored as well.

I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

It'll be a new unit to the police force.

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Postby T Roosevelt » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:12 pm

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T Roosevelt wrote:They hurt the national work ethic, and fraternity.


A penny for a source guvna.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:12 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Immoren wrote:If we ban alcohol. Do we then drown our sorrows into ice cream instead of alcohol?

Nope, it's been suggested that everyone's portions should be monitored as well.


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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Aurulie wrote:
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Proof?

Because we're anti war, and pro freedom. We don't like seeing people starve unlike our right wing friends.




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Postby The Saint James Islands » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

It'll be a new unit to the police force.

And who will volunteer for it?
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:13 pm

If cameras are installed in everyone's houses, they'd just catch people masturbating.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

I can't remember the specifics, but when Narnia started a thread suggesting cameras in every home, Gallo did the math and found that, in order to store the data, we'd need to use up like half of Montana or some such.


The whole of Montana to create a good enough space to store all the data from every camera in the country for only a month or something like that. Enough to bankrupt the US about 10 times over anyway.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

It'll be a new unit to the police force.

Again, where are we getting all these cops?
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:13 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Aurulie wrote:An extreme form of socialism, Stalinism, and look how quickly Russia under the USSR became modernised, socialism caused that.

So was it or was it not Socialist. You seem to be very inconsistent here. You take every positive thing and attribute it to Socialism, yet dismiss failures and deaths as being not-Socialism.

Eh, "yes" Stalinism is "socialism", but not really.

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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:14 pm

The Saint James Islands wrote:
Aurulie wrote:It'll be a new unit to the police force.

And who will volunteer for it?

And whos to say that the cops wont lie under interview? They'd build friendships and they'd let things slip if the cops families made some.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:14 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Rocopurr wrote:I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

It'll be a new unit to the police force.

How will we afford it? Find enough people to do the police checks? What about the space it'd take up:

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Rocopurr wrote:I'm interested in hearing how we're able to afford so many cameras and people to monitor everyone. The police have more important things to worry about.

I can't remember the specifics, but when Narnia started a thread suggesting cameras in every home, Gallo did the math and found that, in order to store the data, we'd need to use up like half of Montana or some such.
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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:14 pm

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Not what you were asked. I'll take your avoidance to mean you cannot actually come up with any way to make that work

I answered all points to your question.


You didn't answer either of them.

Taxes are completely irrelevant to what you were asked. Saying that you're going to recruit more officers is useless, since the question is about where you're going to find the people to do it.

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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:14 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Aurulie wrote:It'll be a new unit to the police force.

Again, where are we getting all these cops?

By recruiting.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:14 pm

Immoren wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Nope, it's been suggested that everyone's portions should be monitored as well.


My downspiral for today goes further and further.

Yeah, this thread is killing my mood.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who, upon reading the posts of our resident Authoritarians, is reminded of Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter?
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