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Nord Amour
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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:50 pm

T Roosevelt wrote:
The New Age Republic wrote:BAN IT! BAN EVERYTHING!
Not everything, only recreational cannabis, alcohol, and tobacco cigarettes.


Why?

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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:50 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Aurulie wrote:The best society has to offer.


Well looking at your signature it appears you aren't a fan of Bush. Are you sure the government is the best society has to offer?

Bush shouldn't have been president, Kerry should've won. As much as I hate Bush he is on the same level as the average man. And left wing politicians are the best society has to offer.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:51 pm

T Roosevelt wrote:
The New Age Republic wrote:BAN IT! BAN EVERYTHING!
Not everything, only recreational cannabis, alcohol, and tobacco cigarettes.


How do you preven familiar family doctor issuing prescription for these indirectly for recreational purposes?
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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:51 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:
Hey, you made the nonsensical claim, but if you'd like to get back to the actual topic, then by all means.

What is so special about you that your desire to end drinking should be more important than the right of everyone else to make their own decisions about what to put into their bodies?

Because people aren't smart, so the government needs to step in to help.


That is obviously not even an attempt to answer the question.

If you don't think people are smart enough to be making decisions, then you would not be interested in not just making, but forcing your decisions on other people.

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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:52 pm

Aurulie wrote:And left wing politicians are the best society has to offer.


Proof?

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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:52 pm

WestRedMaple wrote:
Aurulie wrote:By surveillance and police checks.


And where are you going to find ten or twenty million people to watch everyone else? Where are you going to get the economic ability to have that many people watching others rather than actually contributing anything?

By raising taxes and recruiting more officers.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:53 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:
And where are you going to find ten or twenty million people to watch everyone else? Where are you going to get the economic ability to have that many people watching others rather than actually contributing anything?

By raising taxes and recruiting more officers.


I was going to suggest Neighborhood Watch.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:53 pm

WestRedMaple wrote:
Aurulie wrote:Because people aren't smart, so the government needs to step in to help.


That is obviously not even an attempt to answer the question.

If you don't think people are smart enough to be making decisions, then you would not be interested in not just making, but forcing your decisions on other people.

...Pretty...Much...

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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:54 pm

WestRedMaple wrote:
Aurulie wrote:Because people aren't smart, so the government needs to step in to help.


That is obviously not even an attempt to answer the question.

If you don't think people are smart enough to be making decisions, then you would not be interested in not just making, but forcing your decisions on other people.


Well, this is certainly eye-opening. Only Aurulie must be qualified to run the governments of the world.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Scomagia wrote:They'll pass on the knowledge. You really, really don't understand how stupid your idea is. Short of monitoring every home, alcohol will still be widely consumed. Since monitoring every home is impossible....

No, since most people have credit cards, bills, and etc., we can monitor them easily.

You're going to monitor every purchase of fruit?
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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Nord Amour wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:
That is obviously not even an attempt to answer the question.

If you don't think people are smart enough to be making decisions, then you would not be interested in not just making, but forcing your decisions on other people.


Well, this is certainly eye-opening. Only Aurulie must be qualified to run the governments of the world.


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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Nord Amour wrote:
Aurulie wrote:And left wing politicians are the best society has to offer.


Proof?

Because we're anti war, and pro freedom. We don't like seeing people starve unlike our right wing friends.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Governments are made of.........

The best society has to offer.

:rofl: Oh Sweet Zombie Jesus, you are hilarious.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:56 pm

Nord Amour wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:
That is obviously not even an attempt to answer the question.

If you don't think people are smart enough to be making decisions, then you would not be interested in not just making, but forcing your decisions on other people.


Well, this is certainly eye-opening. Only Aurulie must be qualified to run the governments of the world.

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Postby Immoren » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:56 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Aurulie wrote:No, since most people have credit cards, bills, and etc., we can monitor them easily.

You're going to monitor every purchase of fruit?


you don't even need fruits for that.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:57 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Well looking at your signature it appears you aren't a fan of Bush. Are you sure the government is the best society has to offer?

Bush shouldn't have been president, Kerry should've won. As much as I hate Bush he is on the same level as the average man. And left wing politicians are the best society has to offer.


You have very low standards. I think you should get out more

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Postby T Roosevelt » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:57 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Aurulie wrote:The best society has to offer.

:rofl: Oh Sweet Zombie Jesus, you are hilarious.

There isn't anything funny involving the prior words typed.
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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Nord Amour wrote:
Proof?

Because we're anti war, and pro freedom. We don't like seeing people starve unlike our right wing friends.

Circular logic is circular.
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Immoren wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You're going to monitor every purchase of fruit?


you don't even need fruits for that.

True enough. Dandelions, oats, corn. I think the list of things you can make alcohol from is longer than the list of things you can't.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Immoren wrote:
Scomagia wrote:You're going to monitor every purchase of fruit?


you don't even need fruits for that.


You can make beer out of barley. Actually I think that's what most beers are made of.
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Postby Solaray » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Nord Amour wrote:
Proof?

Because we're anti war, and pro freedom. We don't like seeing people starve unlike our right wing friends.

Strange that someone who claims to be pro freedom desires to ban pretty everything they don't like.
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Postby WestRedMaple » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

Aurulie wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:
And where are you going to find ten or twenty million people to watch everyone else? Where are you going to get the economic ability to have that many people watching others rather than actually contributing anything?

By raising taxes and recruiting more officers.


Not what you were asked. I'll take your avoidance to mean you cannot actually come up with any way to make that work

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Postby Cyrisnia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

T Roosevelt wrote:
Scomagia wrote: :rofl: Oh Sweet Zombie Jesus, you are hilarious.

There isn't anything funny involving the prior words typed.

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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:58 pm

I just don't see banning alcohol working very well. What makes you think it'll turn out well this time around?

* it enables rape tendencies in troubled individuals.
*it's not good for children.

* If you want to lower rape rates there are way more prominent issues to be concerned with than alcohol.
* Then don't give children alcohol. The drinking age is 21, so you already aren't supposed to give minors alcohol.
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:59 pm

Nord Amour wrote:
Aurulie wrote:And left wing politicians are the best society has to offer.


Proof?

Because we're anti war, anti religion and pro freedom.

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