How would you *realistically* improve society?

[Atlanticatia]

Most people accept the legitimacy of the state, and the existence of the state requires taxation.

So then why not allow the people who accept the legitimacy of the state to be taxed, and for those to not receive any of the benefits? Certainly it would be fairer for everyone.

Because said people are welcome to leave, or they can earn no income (which is also a result of the services provided by the state; such as protection, law and order, education, etc) and not utilise any of the services.
The state requires coercion to exist.. There's no way around it. Without that, it's not a functioning state.

[Divergia]

First: Outlaw Lawns, and encourage gardening, I highly doubt one could hide a lawn, so I argue its feasible with society's support.

[Macedom]

or we could do something useful and ban religion under international law and use those same methods to enforce it

You're going to be killing or jailing A LOT of people then.

your point?

[Inolena]

I shun class stratification as a tool of the state.

Class stratification occurs even without the present of a coherent state though?

Healthy class stratification is one that includes a high degree of social mobility.

Again, meritocracy. And Singapore.

[Vazdaria]

You despise me then! D: and I thought we were friends!

Capitalism is poop.
Corporatism for the win!

Corporatism is capitalism in decay or modified capitalism to increase entitlements.

Meritocracy is the only way the idea of institutional inequality can be removed.

And no. We cannot be friends, bub <3

Corporatism is by no means capitalism and I find it abhorrent that you would confuse the two!!!

[Lies and Ignorance]

I'd magically make socialist literature appear in strategic spots around America, causing it to be found, read and heard by just enough people to make the ideas of liberation spread to the majority of the populace, and take root as an unsquashable idea, in the back of people's heads no matter what. Positive societal changes would be inevitable.

People will read it and then proceed to throw it in the nearest trash bin.

You wish.

[Othelos]

please explain how that would help or be possible. How would you force people to believe in god(s)?

1: The U.N. would pass the law, of course it would help to get an American constitutional amendment first to the same effect.

2: With guns.

1. please explain how that would help society.
2. Please explain how threatening to kill someone will cause them to genuinely believe in god(s).

[Vazdaria]

You're going to be killing or jailing A LOT of people then.

your point?

that would entail HUGE increases in taxes. along with massive violent protests.

[Benuty]

I shun class stratification as a tool of the state.

Class stratification occurs even without the present of a coherent state though?

Don't bother using Somalia as an example it is an Anocracy.

[Qeno]

What do you think would help society, NSG?

I would give everyone firearms!
(No one who commits crimes would want to be shot and those who do get shot probably had it coming)

If I were leader of the United States I would encourage economic growth by buying food items on a gigantic scale instead of ammunition!

I would promote the free hugs campaign
(Because sometimes we all need a hug)

[The Liberated Territories]

So then why not allow the people who accept the legitimacy of the state to be taxed, and for those to not receive any of the benefits? Certainly it would be fairer for everyone.

How? They wouldn't be able to use roads, send their children to school, or have emergency services respond when needed.

Private services are a thing. And there are always people who want to live in their own bubble, for whatever reason.

[Vazdaria]

People will read it and then proceed to throw it in the nearest trash bin.

You wish.

I did.

[Inolena]

Corporatism is capitalism in decay or modified capitalism to increase entitlements.

Meritocracy is the only way the idea of institutional inequality can be removed.

And no. We cannot be friends, bub <3

Corporatism is by no means capitalism and I find it abhorrent that you would confuse the two!!!

It's a sub branch. A filthy one at that.

Surprisingly, meritocracy usually ends up being corporatist in nature due to humans being social creatures.

Fine. It's a step up from capitalism. Not by much.

[Othelos]

your point?

that would entail HUGE increases in taxes. along with massive violent protests.

it's stupid anyway, there's no reason someone shouldn't be able to hold religious beliefs.

[Vazdaria]

What do you think would help society, NSG?

I would give everyone firearms!
(No one who commits crimes would want to be shot and those who do get shot probably had it coming)

If I were leader of the United States I would encourage economic growth by buying food items on a gigantic scale instead of ammunition!

I would promote the free hugs campaign
(Because sometimes we all need a hug)

I like the free hug part.....

[Macedom]

your point?

that would entail HUGE increases in taxes. along with massive violent protests.

i never agreed with the jailing and bullets are rather inexpensive

[Inolena]

that would entail HUGE increases in taxes. along with massive violent protests.

i never agreed with the jailing and bullets are rather inexpensive

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[Vazdaria]

Corporatism is by no means capitalism and I find it abhorrent that you would confuse the two!!!

It's a sub branch. A filthy one at that.

Surprisingly, meritocracy usually ends up being corporatist in nature due to humans being social creatures.

Fine. It's a step up from capitalism. Not by much.

It's not a sub branch. It's an entirely different form of economic organization!!!

[Othelos]

How? They wouldn't be able to use roads, send their children to school, or have emergency services respond when needed.

Private services are a thing. And there are always people who want to live in their own bubble, for whatever reason.

Those people can't use private services if they require the use of roads.

And yes, there are, which is why some people become ghosts to the government.

[Vazdaria]

that would entail HUGE increases in taxes. along with massive violent protests.

i never agreed with the jailing and bullets are rather inexpensive

Oh so you advocate for their death then?

[Benuty]

that would entail HUGE increases in taxes. along with massive violent protests.

i never agreed with the jailing and bullets are rather inexpensive

Your opinion is that of a person not based in reality.

[Inolena]

It's a sub branch. A filthy one at that.

Surprisingly, meritocracy usually ends up being corporatist in nature due to humans being social creatures.

Fine. It's a step up from capitalism. Not by much.

It's not a sub branch. It's an entirely different form of economic organization!!!

Not by much if there are differences.

[Vazdaria]

It's not a sub branch. It's an entirely different form of economic organization!!!

Not by much if there are differences.

There is a HUGE difference. Are you kidding me??? You simply musn't be well read on corporatism.

[Macedom]

i never agreed with the jailing and bullets are rather inexpensive

Oh so you advocate for their death then?

only if they choose to continue to follow their "gods"

i never agreed with the jailing and bullets are rather inexpensive

Your opinion is that of a person not based in reality.

source?

[Empire of Narnia]

1: The U.N. would pass the law, of course it would help to get an American constitutional amendment first to the same effect.

2: With guns.

1. please explain how that would help society.
2. Please explain how threatening to kill someone will cause them to genuinely believe in god(s).

1: It would instill good morals in the people, unite millions of people, give the world a higher calling and it would shut down many of the abhorrent beliefs that infest the modern world.

2: It is basic survival mechanism, similar to Stockholm syndrome. Even those that don't end up believing while be forced to attend church, and their children would be taught religion in school as fact. All of those things will lead to a much more religious population.