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Postby Crossikination » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:59 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Crossikination wrote:We'll that is the Torah not the bible


The torah came before the bible. The bible is based on the torah, thus it is still relevant. Did you ignore the second citations?

The Torah is not relevant because a savior named Jesus came, and yet unbelievers were too stubborn to believe that he was God. The bible believes in Jesus, our savior, and he Torah believes in living sacrifice

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:59 am

Crossikination wrote:
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First we are still apes, the same we we are still primates the same way we are still mammals

Second, you mean like Lucy?

What do you mean like Lucy?


...You don't know who Lucy is? You seriously need to do some research. She is just one of the most famous of the transitional fossils we have found.
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Postby Immoren » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:59 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Crossikination wrote:If we evolved from apes, then where are all the ape people in between the evolutionary process?


First we are still apes, the same we we are still primates the same way we are still mammals

Second, you mean like Lucy?


To put it in graph
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Postby New DeCapito » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:59 am

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Sorry, evolutionists generally don't believes that we evolved from apes now.

Source: http://www.livescience.com/32503-why-ha ... umans.html

Sorry, but I believe that we should all be educated.

Then how did we humans get here?

Funny you should ask!
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:00 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
The torah came before the bible. The bible is based on the torah, thus it is still relevant. Did you ignore the second citations?

The Torah is not relevant because a savior named Jesus came, and yet unbelievers were too stubborn to believe that he was God. The bible believes in Jesus, our savior, and he Torah believes in living sacrifice


You entire Genesis story is based on the Torah. It is almost (though not quit) a complete remake of it. Again did you ignore the second link?
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Postby Crossikination » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:01 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Crossikination wrote:Wrong bible then, different version than the original


The original, you mean the torah?

No the original christian bible, there are different versions

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Postby Kainesia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:01 pm

Need a name wrote:
Crossikination wrote:If we evolved from apes, then where are all the ape people in between the evolutionary process?


Sorry, evolutionists generally don't believes that we evolved from apes now.

Source: http://www.livescience.com/32503-why-ha ... umans.html

Sorry, but I believe that we should all be educated.


What in the flying spaghetti monster's name is an evolutionist?

Did you read that article? It explains that we are related to apes.
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Postby New DeCapito » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:01 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
The torah came before the bible. The bible is based on the torah, thus it is still relevant. Did you ignore the second citations?

The Torah is not relevant because a savior named Jesus came, and yet unbelievers were too stubborn to believe that he was God. The bible believes in Jesus, our savior, and he Torah believes in living sacrifice

Duuude, that's basically the New Testament. To the extent that you've described, the Torah and the Bible are one and the same. Prove me wrong, please, I know nothing of the Torah.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:02 pm

New DeCapito wrote:
Crossikination wrote:The Torah is not relevant because a savior named Jesus came, and yet unbelievers were too stubborn to believe that he was God. The bible believes in Jesus, our savior, and he Torah believes in living sacrifice

Duuude, that's basically the New Testament. To the extent that you've described, the Torah and the Bible are one and the same. Prove me wrong, please, I know nothing of the Torah.


Actually not quit...the serpent in the garden was not satan in the Torah.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:03 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
The original, you mean the torah?

No the original christian bible, there are different versions


As far as we know there is no copy of the "original" bible.
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Postby Kainesia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:03 pm

Immoren wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
First we are still apes, the same we we are still primates the same way we are still mammals

Second, you mean like Lucy?


To put it in graph
Image
Image

:p


Bonobos are missing. I know they might shag a lot but you can't deny their existence dammit! Swingers are people apes too!
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Postby Need a Name » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:03 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Sorry, evolutionists generally don't believes that we evolved from apes now.

Source: http://www.livescience.com/32503-why-ha ... umans.html

Sorry, but I believe that we should all be educated.

Then how did we humans get here?


I'm a Creationist, I was just correcting you.
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Postby Crossikination » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:04 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Crossikination wrote:The Torah is not relevant because a savior named Jesus came, and yet unbelievers were too stubborn to believe that he was God. The bible believes in Jesus, our savior, and he Torah believes in living sacrifice


You entire Genesis story is based on the Torah. It is almost (though not quit) a complete remake of it. Again did you ignore the second link?

The rest of the Torah is irrelevant , it is not the same as the bible, and yes I did ignore the link

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Postby New DeCapito » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:05 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
You entire Genesis story is based on the Torah. It is almost (though not quit) a complete remake of it. Again did you ignore the second link?

The rest of the Torah is irrelevant , it is not the same as the bible, and yes I did ignore the link

Why ignore the link? It might have useful info.
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Postby Highfort » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:05 pm

Need a name wrote:
Crossikination wrote:Then how did we humans get here?


I'm a Creationist, I was just correcting you.


You mean you don't understand science. Calling the biological explanation of why we're here a dogma and referring to people who understand it as "evolutionists" neither dismisses your opponents nor discredits them.
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Postby Need a Name » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:05 pm

Kainesia wrote:
Need a name wrote:
Sorry, evolutionists generally don't believes that we evolved from apes now.

Source: http://www.livescience.com/32503-why-ha ... umans.html

Sorry, but I believe that we should all be educated.


What in the flying spaghetti monster's name is an evolutionist?

Did you read that article? It explains that we are related to apes.


I skimmed through it, I was just looking for a quick source.

Glad you payed enough attention to correct me.
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Postby Kainesia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:06 pm

Chaunceys wrote:
Crossikination wrote:Then how did we humans get here?

We evolved from a different ancestor then apes, common it's not that hard


Humans are apes,

are you not descended from your mum and dad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
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Postby Crossikination » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Need a name wrote:
Crossikination wrote:Then how did we humans get here?


I'm a Creationist, I was just correcting you.

Oh ok sorry :)

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Postby New DeCapito » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Kainesia wrote:
Chaunceys wrote:We evolved from a different ancestor then apes, common it's not that hard


Humans are apes,

are you not descended from your mum and dad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

This is not now, and never will be, a valid argument in any way.
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Postby Crossikination » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Kainesia wrote:
Chaunceys wrote:We evolved from a different ancestor then apes, common it's not that hard


Humans are apes,

are you not descended from your mum and dad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

My mom and dad aren't apes, they are humans

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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
You entire Genesis story is based on the Torah. It is almost (though not quit) a complete remake of it. Again did you ignore the second link?

The rest of the Torah is irrelevant , it is not the same as the bible, and yes I did ignore the link



How is it irrelevant when your bible is directly based on the Torah? Your Jesus would have no reason to exist without the Genesis story, and the Genesis story comes from the Torah (well sorta).

So basically you are going lalalalalala when it comes to a link that shows you wrong. Good to know you do not actually plan on debating honestly.
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Postby Kainesia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:07 pm

Need a name wrote:
Crossikination wrote:Then how did we humans get here?


I'm a Creationist, I was just correcting you.


OOOOOOOOOOO we don't get many of those around NS! :)
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Postby Kainesia » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:09 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Kainesia wrote:
Humans are apes,

are you not descended from your mum and dad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

My mom and dad aren't apes, they are humans


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human

Human: Animalia, chordata, mamalia, primate, hominidae, homo, sapien.

Google hominidae.

Denying humans are apes is like denying blue whales are whales.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:10 pm

Crossikination wrote:
Kainesia wrote:
Humans are apes,

are you not descended from your mum and dad?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

My mom and dad aren't apes, they are humans


There is a taxonomical definition of ape, and all humans fall into that definition. So yes they are apes.
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Postby New DeCapito » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:10 pm

Kainesia wrote:
Crossikination wrote:My mom and dad aren't apes, they are humans


Human: Animalia, chordata, mamalia, primate, hominidae, homo, sapien.

Google hominidae.

Denying humans are apes is like denying blue whales are whales.

You, sir, are horribly uninformed. And for the record, I'm atheist.
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