Does God Exist?

[Camicon]

... In your opinion.
So explain HOW god does this "through" man.

And explain how people living in straw huts thousands of years ago seemed to know MORE than we know now.

That is exactly my point. The people of the earliest civilizations don't know anything. Other than what God has put in their heads to write the bible that we know today. Only god knows more than we do, therefore, everything that came true in the bible came from the almighty God.there is something called special revaluation, everything that man wrote down in the bible came from god, through spiritual events.

Name one thing, any one thing, that the Bible predicted which later actually happened.

[Crossikination]

If the universe has always existed, then why don't we have infinite history about it and clear details on how it developed?

Technically it is infinite.
There was no "before" the Big Bang.
Because for there to be a before or even a cause, time must exist by necessity, and all time is contained within the universe.

So there has always been life? (In your opinion)

[Wallenburg]

Technically it is infinite.
There was no "before" the Big Bang.
Because for there to be a before or even a cause, time must exist by necessity, and all time is contained within the universe.

So there has always been life? (In your opinion)

When did he even refer to life?

[Crossikination]

That is exactly my point. The people of the earliest civilizations don't know anything. Other than what God has put in their heads to write the bible that we know today. Only god knows more than we do, therefore, everything that came true in the bible came from the almighty God.there is something called special revaluation, everything that man wrote down in the bible came from god, through spiritual events.

Name one thing, any one thing, that the Bible predicted which later actually happened.

People back in the Stone Age believed that the earth was flat. The bible says that the earth is round, which now, we know is right.

[New DeCapito]

I cannot take the bible seriously. I can pick apart Genesis 1 right now, if you wish.

There are Christians who believe that Creation didn't literally happen over 6 days, but rather long periods of time.
Now it says that plants were created on the third day, and the sun on the fourth day. Since plants need the sun to do photosynthesis and survive, it stands to reason that if Creation had happened over a long period of time, there would be no plant life, because it had all died before the sun arrived.

[Immoren]

I dunno, maybe the universe technically always existed?
For example, there is no "outside of time" or "outside of existence"
To create the universe you would have to "outside of it" but that's impossible.
If god is those things, then he, by definition, doesn't exist.

If the universe has always existed, then why don't we have infinite history about it and clear details on how it developed?

because history is as old as human writing.

[Crossikination]

I cannot take the bible seriously. I can pick apart Genesis 1 right now, if you wish.

There are Christians who believe that Creation didn't literally happen over 6 days, but rather long periods of time.
Now it says that plants were created on the third day, and the sun on the fourth day. Since plants need the sun to do photosynthesis and survive, it stands to reason that if Creation had happened over a long period of time, there would be no plant life, because it had all died before the sun arrived.

Hi the bible did not say that, that is not true. The sun was created on the second day, thank you.

[Crossikination]

If the universe has always existed, then why don't we have infinite history about it and clear details on how it developed?

because history is as old as human writing.

So how do we know about the dinosaurs?

[Camicon]

Name one thing, any one thing, that the Bible predicted which later actually happened.

People back in the Stone Age believed that the earth was flat. The bible says that the earth is round, which now, we know is right.

Give me the passage in the Bible where it is stated that the Earth is round. And then prove that the passage was written before Aristotle's time.

[New DeCapito]

I cannot take the bible seriously. I can pick apart Genesis 1 right now, if you wish.

There are Christians who believe that Creation didn't literally happen over 6 days, but rather long periods of time.
Now it says that plants were created on the third day, and the sun on the fourth day. Since plants need the sun to do photosynthesis and survive, it stands to reason that if Creation had happened over a long period of time, there would be no plant life, because it had all died before the sun arrived.

Hi the bible did not say that, that is not true. The sun was created on the second day, thank you.

"11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day."

Third day, fourth day. Merely day and night was created on the second day.

[Crossikination]

So there has always been life? (In your opinion)

When did he even refer to life?

The human race is what I was referring too. Human life

[Immoren]

because history is as old as human writing.

So how do we know about the dinosaurs?

Deduction based on fossil evidence, geological evidence and what we understand about biology of currently existing organisms.

[Chaunceys]

Name one thing, any one thing, that the Bible predicted which later actually happened.

People back in the Stone Age believed that the earth was flat. The bible says that the earth is round, which now, we know is right.

1. We discovered the Earth was round from sailors sailing around the Earth not from a mythical book saying how the Earth was round.
2.What other miracles of science does the bible predict? Does it mention what DNA is or how the tides change?

[The Creepoc Infinite]

Technically it is infinite.
There was no "before" the Big Bang.
Because for there to be a before or even a cause, time must exist by necessity, and all time is contained within the universe.

So there has always been life? (In your opinion)

No. The universe isn't ALIVE
existence existing is not contingent on life existing.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

People back in the Stone Age believed that the earth was flat. The bible says that the earth is round, which now, we know is right.

Give me the passage in the Bible where it is stated that the Earth is round. And then prove that the passage was written before Aristotle's time.

It alludes to it being flat.
"Four corners of the world" anyone?
The world stands on four pillars????

[Camicon]

People back in the Stone Age believed that the earth was flat. The bible says that the earth is round, which now, we know is right.

1. We discovered the Earth was round from sailors sailing around the Earth not from a mythical book saying how the Earth was round.
2.What other miracles of science does the bible predict? Does it mention what DNA is or how the tides change?

Actually (as far as we can tell), Aristotle was the first to give solid evidence that the Earth is round, and the Earth's circumference was calculated by Eratosthenes around 240 BCE. Sailors may have been the first to suggest it, by observing the different horizons one could see depending on if they were in the crows nest or not, but it would be a stretch to say sailors "discovered" the Earth was round.

[The Creepoc Infinite]

Leonard Nimoy is dead

[Crossikination]

Hi the bible did not say that, that is not true. The sun was created on the second day, thank you.

"11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day."

Third day, fourth day. Merely day and night was created on the second day.

What bible did you get that from?

[Farnhamia]

Leonard Nimoy is dead

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[Crossikination]

1. We discovered the Earth was round from sailors sailing around the Earth not from a mythical book saying how the Earth was round.
2.What other miracles of science does the bible predict? Does it mention what DNA is or how the tides change?

Actually (as far as we can tell), Aristotle was the first to give solid evidence that the Earth is round, and the Earth's circumference was calculated by Eratosthenes around 240 BCE. Sailors may have been the first to suggest it, by observing the different horizons one could see depending on if they were in the crows nest or not, but it would be a stretch to say sailors "discovered" the Earth was round.

But the bible was written far before that, and some that did not believe in God, didn't believe that the earth was round

[Chaunceys]

1. We discovered the Earth was round from sailors sailing around the Earth not from a mythical book saying how the Earth was round.
2.What other miracles of science does the bible predict? Does it mention what DNA is or how the tides change?

Actually (as far as we can tell), Aristotle was the first to give solid evidence that the Earth is round, and the Earth's circumference was calculated by Eratosthenes around 240 BCE. Sailors may have been the first to suggest it, by observing the different horizons one could see depending on if they were in the crows nest or not, but it would be a stretch to say sailors "discovered" the Earth was round.

I agree, I phrased what I said incorrectly, i'll re-phrase it.

Sailors played a somewhat major role in the discovery of the Earth being round.

[Crossikination]

So there has always been life? (In your opinion)

No. The universe isn't ALIVE
existence existing is not contingent on life existing.

Then what created human life?

[Chaunceys]

Actually (as far as we can tell), Aristotle was the first to give solid evidence that the Earth is round, and the Earth's circumference was calculated by Eratosthenes around 240 BCE. Sailors may have been the first to suggest it, by observing the different horizons one could see depending on if they were in the crows nest or not, but it would be a stretch to say sailors "discovered" the Earth was round.

But the bible was written far before that, and some that did not believe in God, didn't believe that the earth was round

Can you provide proof please? How do you know the only people back then that thought the Earth was round were Christians? If I re-call when Christopher Columbus was still alive and people still believed the non sense that the earth was flat he spoke to Spain's king and qeen at that time which 8/10 were religious people and they thought the earth was flat and not round.

[Chaunceys]

No. The universe isn't ALIVE
existence existing is not contingent on life existing.

Then what created human life?

To an extent we do not know, science has actually almost cracked the code of life by studying DNA and genes but it the Universe doesn't need to be alive to create something alive.

[Creepoc 2]

No. The universe isn't ALIVE
existence existing is not contingent on life existing.

Then what created human life?

Abiogenesis is where life originates.
Human evolved from a common ancestor we share with apes.