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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:48 am

Risottia wrote:
The Foxes Swamp wrote:There was no Big Bang. The universe has always been here, no beginning and no end.


How do you justify the redshift of the far galaxies and the background radiation then?


its just a theory till i'm proven wrong. isnt that how science works?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:50 am

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How do you justify the redshift of the far galaxies and the background radiation then?


its just a theory till i'm proven wrong. isnt that how science works?


You are aware the word theory has a different meaning in scientific terms right?
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:55 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:we don't know.

He might exist.

The Bible could be true.

We should be careful just in case...


i know if their is a god it aint represented by any humans.

theres definitely more to this than meets the eye.

the bible is drivel.

na the god the bible represents doesnt exist.
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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:58 am

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its just a theory till i'm proven wrong. isnt that how science works?


You are aware the word theory has a different meaning in scientific terms right?


thanks im aware now..though i'm using theory as the big bang uses the word theory.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:59 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You are aware the word theory has a different meaning in scientific terms right?


thanks im aware now..though i'm using theory as the big bang uses the word theory.

And the Big Bang uses the word theory as sciences uses the word theory.

So what are you talking about?
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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:00 pm

The Foxes Swamp wrote:its just a theory till i'm proven wrong. isnt that how science works?


Not at all.

A theory has to account for all the relevant observations. What you have is a bald assertion, backed up by willful ignorance.

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Postby The Foxes Swamp » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:07 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
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thanks im aware now..though i'm using theory as the big bang uses the word theory.

And the Big Bang uses the word theory as sciences uses the word theory.

So what are you talking about?



forget what i said i could be wrong..prove the big bang theory to me please ?
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:29 pm

The Foxes Swamp wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:And the Big Bang uses the word theory as sciences uses the word theory.

So what are you talking about?



forget what i said i could be wrong..prove the big bang theory to me please ?


Science does not prove things - it disproves. That is the core idea :P
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:55 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:we don't know.

He might exist.

The Bible could be true.

We should be careful just in case...

its OK I have Mormonism as my backup religion. they believe that you get another chance after you are dead when you will be shown for sure that god exists (as they conceive of him). ill avoid hell at that time by signing on after death.

Yeah, because who doesn't want to be endlessly celestially sodomized by a false prophet turned god?
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:56 pm

The Foxes Swamp wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:we don't know.

He might exist.

The Bible could be true.

We should be careful just in case...


i know if their is a god it aint represented by any humans.

theres definitely more to this than meets the eye.

the bible is drivel.

na the god the bible represents doesnt exist.

The Documentary Hypothesis says otherwise.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:58 pm

The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:
Knockturn Alley wrote:Plus with technology ever increasing, the relevance of a higher being is fast decreasing, due to the fact that most people have what they need to be happy within their arm's reach. Also the concept of organized religion is stereotypically associated with conservatism, racism and chauvinism which causes the neutral majority (the people who hold neither theistic nor atheistic views) to detach themselves from religion.


Racism? When?

Yeah, who knew those pacifistic Jains were such hardcore racists *nods*.
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Postby Securitan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:01 pm

Benuty wrote:
The Land of Eternal Prosperity wrote:
Racism? When?

Yeah, who knew those pacifistic Jains were such hardcore racists *nods*.

Slaveowners who used the Qur'an or the Bible to justify the slave trade were racist though.
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Postby Yevan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:05 pm

How could you say such a thing! Maybe the Christian god doesn't exist but that doesn't mean other gods don't exist. Such as the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster, somewhere up in the Strainer in the Sky the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster is frowning at all of you. How could you say he doesn't exist he boiled for your sins! I suggest all of you atheists out there rethink your religious ideals and maybe someday you'll finally see the marinara and accept the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster as the one and only god those who do will enjoy unlimited breadsticks for all eternity in the Great Strainer in the Sky but those who don't will be cast into the deepest darkest reaches of fast food restaurants where there will be much suffering and terrible food for the rest of time.
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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:12 pm

Securitan wrote:
Benuty wrote:Yeah, who knew those pacifistic Jains were such hardcore racists *nods*.

Slaveowners who used the Qur'an or the Bible to justify the slave trade were racist though.

Which Qur'an?

There wasn't just a Qur'an (uniformally) until the Third Caliph came into power.
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Postby Jackonia » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:14 pm

I believe God is not a phisical entity, but everything around us. God set in motion the creation of the Universe and everything that followed. Science helps others discover the meaning of life and why everything is the way it is. I therefore believe that Science is God. God is everything that happens, be it the Laws of Gravity or Nuclear Fusion etc. Science explains the Universe, and therefore God.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:15 pm

Jackonia wrote:I believe God is not a phisical entity, but everything around us. God set in motion the creation of the Universe and everything that followed. Science helps others discover the meaning of life and why everything is the way it is. I therefore believe that Science is God. God is everything that happens, be it the Laws of Gravity or Nuclear Fusion etc. Science explains the Universe, and therefore God.

Pantheist?
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Postby Securitan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:15 pm

Benuty wrote:
Securitan wrote:Slaveowners who used the Qur'an or the Bible to justify the slave trade were racist though.

Which Qur'an?

There wasn't just a Qur'an (uniformally) until the Third Caliph came into power.

Which is about the time that the Arab slave trade began.
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Postby Securitan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:17 pm

Yevan wrote:How could you say such a thing! Maybe the Christian god doesn't exist but that doesn't mean other gods don't exist. Such as the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster, somewhere up in the Strainer in the Sky the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster is frowning at all of you. How could you say he doesn't exist he boiled for your sins! I suggest all of you atheists out there rethink your religious ideals and maybe someday you'll finally see the marinara and accept the Giant Flying Spaghetti Monster as the one and only god those who do will enjoy unlimited breadsticks for all eternity in the Great Strainer in the Sky but those who don't will be cast into the deepest darkest reaches of fast food restaurants where there will be much suffering and terrible food for the rest of time.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:18 pm

Securitan wrote:
Benuty wrote:Which Qur'an?

There wasn't just a Qur'an (uniformally) until the Third Caliph came into power.

Which is about the time that the Arab slave trade began.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

I beg to differ, the third caliph died in 656 C.E.

If the Arab slave trade didn't begun until the 8th century that is some time away.
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Postby Securitan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:22 pm

Benuty wrote:
Securitan wrote:Which is about the time that the Arab slave trade began.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

I beg to differ, the third caliph died in 656 C.E.

If the Arab slave trade didn't begun until the 8th century that is some time away.

That same source says the Arab slave trade began in 650, multiple times. Even if it did begin in the 700s, it would only prove my point since a unified Qur'an would exist at that time.
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Postby Jackonia » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:24 pm

Benuty wrote:
Jackonia wrote:I believe God is not a phisical entity, but everything around us. God set in motion the creation of the Universe and everything that followed. Science helps others discover the meaning of life and why everything is the way it is. I therefore believe that Science is God. God is everything that happens, be it the Laws of Gravity or Nuclear Fusion etc. Science explains the Universe, and therefore God.

Pantheist?


Actually Roman Catholic, but not your usual sort.

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Postby Benuty » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:25 pm

Securitan wrote:
Benuty wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_slave_trade

I beg to differ, the third caliph died in 656 C.E.

If the Arab slave trade didn't begun until the 8th century that is some time away.

That same source says the Arab slave trade began in 650, multiple times. Even if it did begin in the 700s, it would only prove my point since a unified Qur'an would exist at that time.

Funny, because the same source says Aristotle's views influenced them far more.
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Postby Securitan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:26 pm

Jackonia wrote:
Benuty wrote:Pantheist?


Actually Roman Catholic, but not your usual sort.

Tell me where it says that in the Catechism.
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Postby Jackonia » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:27 pm

Nowhere.

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Postby Securitan » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:28 pm

Benuty wrote:
Securitan wrote:That same source says the Arab slave trade began in 650, multiple times. Even if it did begin in the 700s, it would only prove my point since a unified Qur'an would exist at that time.

Funny, because the same source says Aristotle's views influenced them far more.

In this source it says Islam was interlaced with the slave trade.
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