Should Slender Man be Banned?

[Dyakovo]

So did Christianity.

Um, no. Christianity as we know it never had sacrifices. At least, sacrifices were not permitted in the Christian religion, according to the Bible.

So Yeshua did not sacrifice himself?
Also...

[Fanosolia]

the motto was: "when you wish upon a star" but that's me going a bit too far.

but how is a character who has good values, and a moral to teach bad the second the have some "occult" power? that' just a character to look up to

I don't know what you mean by that.

I mean just because a character has a magical power they're see as evil (at least by you) because they're "occult" even if they have christian values to teach?

[Utceforp]

I think it should be banned in schools, and I also believe that it should be boycotted.

Slenderman is a meme, not a single work of fiction. It's the modern equivalent of a scary story passed around at campfires. You'd have just as much luck trying to ban the Loch Ness monster.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I think it should be banned in schools, and I also believe that it should be boycotted.

....considering it is a game, and a meme, it is most likely blocked already in schools. And yes, I cant wait to see the droves of picket signs demanding a boycott to the slender download page.

[Dyakovo]

No, it really isn't.

The occult have rituals to conjure up magic, while the passover ritual is about remembering what Christ did for us. It is not conjuring up magic, it is simply a sort of memorial ritual. An acknowledgement ritual, if you will.

i.e. My rituals to invoke magic are okay.

[The United Zones of the West]

I see your point. I don't really want to argue further (because I still don't completely agree with your statement, due to my beliefs), because it would require a lot of time to prove my point.

You can't prove your point.

No, I could. But I would spend a lot of time doing it. But to be honest, no one can really prove their point, you just need a strong argument, which I have. Trust me, I am very good at these things. But I am kind of tired of online debates. Especially extensive ones.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

You can't prove your point.

No, I could. But I would spend a lot of time doing it. But to be honest, no one can really prove their point, you just need a strong argument, which I have. Trust me, I am very good at these things. But I am kind of tired of online debates. Especially extensive ones.

Sure, are you going to at least try later?

[Conkerials]

This means we should also ban Jesus.

[Empire of Narnia]

I don't think banning the story would be right. After all Slender-Man was the villain, and I don't remember any part of it encouraging sacrifices or anything like that. Those kids were just messed up. Even if Slender-Man was real only a psycho would want to kill for him. I once thought Star Fox was real, but I would never think of killing for him. That's just insane.

Thank god someone with sense from that side appears, holy shit thank you.

I figured most people on NS would be more anti-censorship regarding this issue. I guess the usual roles are reversed this time, lol.

I just don't see the harm in this story, it isn't even very violent. Goosebumps is more hardcore.

[The United Zones of the West]

Um, no. Christianity as we know it never had sacrifices. At least, sacrifices were not permitted in the Christian religion, according to the Bible.

I believe there was, something to do with the Old Covenant, sacrificing Lambs and all that. Could be wrong.

Plus, isn't god sacrificing his son kind of a big one?

Yes. God was the final sacrifice. And actually, Christianity was born after Christ rose again, hence the name Christianity.

[Utceforp]

No, it really isn't.

The occult have rituals to conjure up magic, while the passover ritual is about remembering what Christ did for us. It is not conjuring up magic, it is simply a sort of memorial ritual. An acknowledgement ritual, if you will.

What about prayer? Isn't that a ritual to "conjure up" something good for you?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

This means we should also ban Jesus.

And an inconceivable plethora of other things.

[Utceforp]

This means we should also ban Jesus.

Wait what?

[Amacia]

I just saw the end of the 20/20 special about the incident. While I might have missed something, from what I saw, I felt they were unfair to Slender Man. It seems when stuff like this happens "grown ups" can't tell the difference between saying, "this is inappropriate for children" and "IT'S ALWAYS BAD KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

That being said the guy interviewed a group of children and asked them if they ever wondered if Slender Man was real, 2 or 3 kids raised their hand. That's a little concerning, but Slendy still has his place, when he's not murdering.

[Conkerials]

I believe there was, something to do with the Old Covenant, sacrificing Lambs and all that. Could be wrong.

Plus, isn't god sacrificing his son kind of a big one?

Yes. God was the final sacrifice. And actually, Christianity was born after Christ rose again, hence the name Christianity.

Christianity still believes sacrifice was necessary in the Old Testament. This being a subtle way of saying sacrifice was (or is?) ok with Christendom.

[The United Zones of the West]

No, I could. But I would spend a lot of time doing it. But to be honest, no one can really prove their point, you just need a strong argument, which I have. Trust me, I am very good at these things. But I am kind of tired of online debates. Especially extensive ones.

Sure, are you going to at least try later?

No. I have too much going on to try. I barely have time for this brief little debate.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

This means we should also ban Jesus.

Wait what?

He is saying that religion also makes some unstable people commit harmful actions, just as many other things like Slenderman do.

[Infected Mushroom]

On May 31, 2014, two 12-year-old girls in Waukesha, Wisconsin, allegedly held down and stabbed a 12-year-old classmate 19 times; when questioned later by authorities, they reportedly claimed that they wished to commit a murder as a first step to becoming "proxies" (acolytes) of the Slender Man, having read about it online.[22] Due to the intervention of a passing cyclist, the victim survived the attack. The attackers were charged as adults and are each facing up to 65 years in prison.[23] One of the girls said Slender Man watches her, can read minds, and teleport.[22] Experts testified in court that she also said she conversed with Lord Voldemort and one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. On August 1, 2014, she was found incompetent to stand trial and her prosecution was suspended until her condition improved.[24]

In a statement to the media, Eric Knudsen said, "I am deeply saddened by the tragedy in Wisconsin and my heart goes out to the families of those affected by this terrible act." He stated he would not be giving interviews on the matter.[25]

After hearing the story, an unidentified woman from Hamilton, Ohio told a WLWT TV reporter her 13-year-old daughter had attacked her with a knife, and had written macabre fiction, some involving the Slender Man, who the mother said motivated the attack.[26]

On September 4, 2014, a 14-year-old girl in Port Richey, Florida allegedly set her family's house on fire while her mother and 9-year-old brother were inside; police reported that the teenager had been reading online stories about Slender Man, as well as an e-book called "Soul Eater". Eddie Daniels of the Pasco Sheriff's Office said of the girl, "She had visited the website that contains a lot of the Slender Man information and stories [...] It would be safe to say there is a connection to that."[27]


From Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_Man#Alleged_inspired_attacks

No its an artistic symbol. Freedom for artists please.

[Conkerials]

This means we should also ban Jesus.

Wait what?

I have killed in the name of Slenderman, therefore ban Slenderman.

I have killed in the name of Jesus, therefore ban Jesus.

I have killed in the name of the great Cornholio, therefore ban the Great Cornholio

etc.

Unreasonable thought, is my point. You don't just ban things because a few people acted irrationally in the name of something.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Sure, are you going to at least try later?

No. I have too much going on to try. I barely have time for this brief little debate.

Sure

[Utceforp]

I just saw the end of the 20/20 special about the incident. While I might have missed something, from what I saw, I felt they were unfair to Slender Man. It seems when stuff like this happens "grown ups" can't tell the difference between saying, "this is inappropriate for children" and "IT'S ALWAYS BAD KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

That being said the guy interviewed a group of children and asked them if they ever wondered if Slender Man was real, 2 or 3 kids raised their hand. That's a little concerning, but Slendy still has his place, when he's not murdering.

Children tend to believe creepy stories are real. Children tend not to murder other children in the name of the creepy character they believe to be real, these girls were definitely outliers. I don't see why it's concerning aside from a general concern over people believing in the supernatural and impossible.

[Utceforp]

Wait what?

I have killed in the name of Slenderman, therefore ban Slenderman.

I have killed in the name of Jesus, therefore ban Jesus.

I have killed in the name of the great Cornholio, therefore ban the Great Cornholio

etc.

Unreasonable thought, is my point. You don't just ban things because a few people acted irrationally in the name of something.

Good point. People have killed in the name of Jesus. I get it now.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

I have killed in the name of Slenderman, therefore ban Slenderman.

I have killed in the name of Jesus, therefore ban Jesus.

I have killed in the name of the great Cornholio, therefore ban the Great Cornholio

etc.

Unreasonable thought, is my point. You don't just ban things because a few people acted irrationally in the name of something.

Good point. People have killed in the name of Jesus. I get it now.

People have also killed because their dog told them too.

[The United Zones of the West]

The occult have rituals to conjure up magic, while the passover ritual is about remembering what Christ did for us. It is not conjuring up magic, it is simply a sort of memorial ritual. An acknowledgement ritual, if you will.

What about prayer? Isn't that a ritual to "conjure up" something good for you?

Um, sort of. But it isn't conjuring up something. Prayer is thought of (by Christians) as merely talking to God. Although it can be used for requests when we want or need something. But it isn't a ritual, it is merely talking. Rituals, you have to be rather precise, but with prayer, it can be as formal or informal as you like. (I prefer it to be informal.)

[Greater Weselton]

I don't know what you mean by that.

I mean just because a character has a magical power they're see as evil (at least by you) because they're "occult" even if they have christian values to teach?

No character that teaches Christian values has "magical" powers.