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Postby The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:09 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
The United Zones of the West wrote:I didn't know there was Christian magic.

Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.

I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm

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The United Zones of the West wrote:I didn't know there was Christian magic.

miracles, faith healing, etc. Jesus performed magic in the bible, ergo he is evil by your logic. And yet having christian idols is somehow okay despite "all occult is evil".

Weselton is the guy promoting "Christian idols". (Which sounds like a bad reality tv show, IMO) As far as we know, United Zones doesn't support that.
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The United Zones of the West wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.

I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

Why are you asking anyways?

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Postby Amacia » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm

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Amacia wrote:Like they're gonna try it out in real life?

They are going to grow up thinking it is okay.
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magic (or any way to access cryokinesis) that the kid wouldn't know how to access. witches, like priests, come in all forms. and last I checked, the story was about princess that had to keep her power a secret because of an incident when she was young. this eventually caused her to start an endless winter. how is that even a "positive" light.

Elsa is a protagonist. Slender Man is not a protagonist.

Not if their parents teach them the difference between fiction and reality.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.

I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

Neither does anyone else.
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Postby The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
The United Zones of the West wrote:I didn't know there was Christian magic.


pray could count as christian magic. so could drinking the wine at church.


How can praying count as Christian magic? And the wine at church is for remembrance, it isn't some ceremony where we curse people or anything like that.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
pray could count as christian magic. so could drinking the wine at church.


How can praying count as Christian magic? And the wine at church is for remembrance, it isn't some ceremony where we curse people or anything like that.

Really...you have to ask...

Okay, lets go over it, what is praying.
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.

I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

Weselton doesn't like Frozen, for example, because it promotes the "occult". Since Elsa doesn't need to kill a goat every time she does her ice powers, I don't think Weselton is using your definition of the "occult".
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Postby The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 pm

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The United Zones of the West wrote:I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

Neither does anyone else.

Um, satanism can involve sacrificing animals or at least slicing yourself for the blood. Or witchcraft.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.

I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

Neither do many other beliefs you label as "occult". Besides, Christianity used to have plenty of sacrifice.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:miracles, faith healing, etc. Jesus performed magic in the bible, ergo he is evil by your logic. And yet having christian idols is somehow okay despite "all occult is evil".

Weselton is the guy promoting "Christian idols". (Which sounds like a bad reality tv show, IMO) As far as we know, United Zones doesn't support that.

So, i got them mixed up...
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Neither does anyone else.

Um, satanism can involve sacrificing animals or at least slicing yourself for the blood. Or witchcraft.

Not true satanism, no. That is a common misconception.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is wrong for kids to see the occult positively since the occult is evil. Children can have Christian idols.


But there's no other connection than cyrokinesis. It that all you need to make it "occult"?

The cyrokinesis was stated to be magic. That makes it occult.
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Greater Weselton wrote:It is wrong for kids to see the occult positively since the occult is evil. Children can have Christian idols.

Oh of course. It is only okay to expose them to YOUR beliefs. Everything else is just bad.

And you mean idols like Pope Alexander VI?

I don't know enough about Pope Alexander VI. He is still a better idol for kids than Queen Elsa or Slender Man.
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
pray could count as christian magic. so could drinking the wine at church.


How can praying count as Christian magic? And the wine at church is for remembrance, it isn't some ceremony where we curse people or anything like that.

Well, if the prayer comes true, it's magic because you get something you want through means not explicable by science. That's besides the point because everything can be explained by science, but if prayer works and magic works then prayer is magic.
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
pray could count as christian magic. so could drinking the wine at church.


How can praying count as Christian magic? And the wine at church is for remembrance, it isn't some ceremony where we curse people or anything like that.


well most people associate pagan or occult magic with rituals and those are christian rituals with high symbolism.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:13 pm

The United Zones of the West wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Neither does anyone else.

Um, satanism can involve sacrificing animals or at least slicing yourself for the blood. Or witchcraft.

:rofl:
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:13 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
But there's no other connection than cyrokinesis. It that all you need to make it "occult"?

The cytokinesis was stated to be magic. That makes it occult.

Elsa can control people's cells now?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:13 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
But there's no other connection than cyrokinesis. It that all you need to make it "occult"?

The cytokinesis was stated to be magic. That makes it occult.
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Oh of course. It is only okay to expose them to YOUR beliefs. Everything else is just bad.

And you mean idols like Pope Alexander VI?

I don't know enough about Pope Alexander VI. He is still a better idol for kids than Queen Elsa or Slender Man.

:rofl: No. No he isn't. Oh my Lord you cannot be serious. This is why it is good to know about something before spouting off opinions.
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Postby Fanosolia » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:14 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
But there's no other connection than cyrokinesis. It that all you need to make it "occult"?

The cytokinesis was stated to be magic. That makes it occult.


so in that statement: all Disney films are occultist films?
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You'd have to find a guy named Cyrus first though. It's not a common name.


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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:14 pm

Kids shouldn't read comics or enjoy Superman, since its obviously done by the occult.

Never mind the guy himself is Catholic or something.
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Postby The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:14 pm

Utceforp wrote:
The United Zones of the West wrote:I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

Weselton doesn't like Frozen, for example, because it promotes the "occult". Since Elsa doesn't need to kill a goat every time she does her ice powers, I don't think Weselton is using your definition of the "occult".

Um, I never said that the occult sacrifices goats every time they want to curse someone. I said that sometimes they do that. And also, I didn't actually claim that Frozen promotes the occult (although maybe it does. I don't know that much about Frozen.)
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:15 pm

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Utceforp wrote:You'd have to find a guy named Cyrus first though. It's not a common name.


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So that's what happened...
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Postby Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:16 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Utceforp wrote:You'd have to find a guy named Cyrus first though. It's not a common name.


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Touché. But I'd still rather control Cyrus the Great than that... thing.
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Never mind the guy himself is Catholic or something.

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Postby The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:16 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
The United Zones of the West wrote:
How can praying count as Christian magic? And the wine at church is for remembrance, it isn't some ceremony where we curse people or anything like that.


well most people associate pagan or occult magic with rituals and those are christian rituals with high symbolism.

It is a different kind of symbolism entirely.
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