I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.
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by The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:09 pm

by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm
The United Zones of the West wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.
I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.
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by Amacia » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm
Greater Weselton wrote:Amacia wrote:Like they're gonna try it out in real life?
They are going to grow up thinking it is okay.Fanosolia wrote:
magic (or any way to access cryokinesis) that the kid wouldn't know how to access. witches, like priests, come in all forms. and last I checked, the story was about princess that had to keep her power a secret because of an incident when she was young. this eventually caused her to start an endless winter. how is that even a "positive" light.
Elsa is a protagonist. Slender Man is not a protagonist.

by Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm
The United Zones of the West wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.
I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

by The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:10 pm

by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 pm
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by Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 pm
The United Zones of the West wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.
I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.

by The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 pm

by Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm
The United Zones of the West wrote:Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Miracles, because if any other anomalies occur it is apparently "occult" magic. But it is okay when your religion or beliefs do it.
I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.

by Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm
Utceforp wrote:Dyakovo wrote:miracles, faith healing, etc. Jesus performed magic in the bible, ergo he is evil by your logic. And yet having christian idols is somehow okay despite "all occult is evil".
Weselton is the guy promoting "Christian idols". (Which sounds like a bad reality tv show, IMO) As far as we know, United Zones doesn't support that.

by Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm
Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.

by Greater Weselton » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

by Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

by Fanosolia » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:12 pm

by Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:13 pm


by Bezkoshtovnya » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:13 pm
Greater Weselton wrote:Fanosolia wrote:
But there's no other connection than cyrokinesis. It that all you need to make it "occult"?
The cytokinesis was stated to be magic. That makes it occult.Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Oh of course. It is only okay to expose them to YOUR beliefs. Everything else is just bad.
And you mean idols like Pope Alexander VI?
I don't know enough about Pope Alexander VI. He is still a better idol for kids than Queen Elsa or Slender Man.
No. No he isn't. Oh my Lord you cannot be serious. This is why it is good to know about something before spouting off opinions.Dante Alighieri wrote:There is no greater sorrow than to recall happiness in times of misery
Charlie Chaplin wrote:Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles.

by Gauthier » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:14 pm


by -The Unified Earth Governments- » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:14 pm
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by The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:14 pm
Utceforp wrote:The United Zones of the West wrote:I think that is because we don't sacrifice humans or even animals to get the miracles, praying is merely asking nicely or simply talking to God.
Weselton doesn't like Frozen, for example, because it promotes the "occult". Since Elsa doesn't need to kill a goat every time she does her ice powers, I don't think Weselton is using your definition of the "occult".

by Dyakovo » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:15 pm

by Utceforp » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:16 pm
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Kids shouldn't read comics or enjoy Superman, since its obviously done by the occult.
Never mind the guy himself is Catholic or something.

by The United Zones of the West » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:16 pm
Fanosolia wrote:The United Zones of the West wrote:
How can praying count as Christian magic? And the wine at church is for remembrance, it isn't some ceremony where we curse people or anything like that.
well most people associate pagan or occult magic with rituals and those are christian rituals with high symbolism.
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