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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:23 pm

Health benefits are dubious. If you want it gone, no harm in doing it as an adult.
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Postby Mikeswill » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:26 pm

Aside from my own I really don't view male circumcision
It seems rather awkward either to steal a glance or ask permission
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:32 pm


But do you support giving parents the power to have their infants' genitals mutilated when there's no pressing need?
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:34 pm

Not to mention this:

However, there are much more effective and less invasive ways of preventing these conditions. For example, practising good hygiene to prevent UTIs, or using a condom to prevent STIs.
Read about when circumcision may be necessary for more details.
Most healthcare professionals maintain that the potential benefits of circumcision are not strong enough to justify routine childhood circumcision. Critics of circumcision argue that it has disadvantages, such as:
Reduced sensitivity – an uncircumcised penis is more sensitive than a circumcised penis, meaning that circumcised men may experience less pleasure during sex.
Potential complications of circumcision – these include excessive bleeding, post-operative infection and, in rare cases, injury to the urethra. These complications are thought to outweigh any potential benefits.
Critics have also argued that routinely circumcising baby boys on medical grounds violates the principle of consent to treatment. They say that circumcision should only be performed when a boy is old enough to make an informed decision about whether he wishes to be circumcised.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:36 pm


Let them make that choice for themselves when they are old enough to understand. The "benefits" of circumcision are not great enough to warrant forcing infants to undergo a procedure that will forever alter their body.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:38 pm

I'm not circumcised.

There is no fucking difference between a circumcised and uncircumcised penis other than having to wash your junk after so many days for a minute or two max while in the shower to prevent smegma buildup. That is it.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:41 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:I'm not circumcised.

High five! :lol:
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Postby Sun Wukong » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:42 pm

Liriena wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:I'm not circumcised.

High five! :lol:

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:42 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:I'm not circumcised.

High five! :lol:


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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:45 pm

When it comes to circumcising underaged boys unless it is done on medical grounds: child abuse. Good and simple
For adults: I don't really care.
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Postby Afghan Rouge » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:46 pm

I was circumcised due to being Muslim.

I support it, but I think the person should decide if they want to be circumcised
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:46 pm

Free Tristania wrote:When it comes to circumcising underaged boys unless it is done on medical grounds: child abuse. Good and simple
For adults: I don't really care.


Circumcision is a very good option as an adult if you have phimosis and you feel uncomfortable with it.
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Postby Benuty » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:50 pm

Sure if it can be legal then people should have the legal right to sue anyone who circumcised them as an infant.
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Postby Anglia and Francia » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:51 pm

Free Tristania wrote:When it comes to circumcising underaged boys unless it is done on medical grounds: child abuse. Good and simple
For adults: I don't really care.
Please explain why?
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Postby Kinsgard » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:53 pm

The same as my view of female circumcision. Intolerable and evil genital mutilation.

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Postby Marcurix » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:53 pm

Anglia and Francia wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:When it comes to circumcising underaged boys unless it is done on medical grounds: child abuse. Good and simple
For adults: I don't really care.
Please explain why?


I suppose cutting a bit off someone for no reason might be something to argue.
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Postby Anglia and Francia » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:55 pm

Marcurix wrote:
Anglia and Francia wrote: Please explain why?


I suppose cutting a bit off someone for no reason might be something to argue.
But why is cutting a bit off someone in a safe surgery child abuse?
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:56 pm

Anglia and Francia wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:When it comes to circumcising underaged boys unless it is done on medical grounds: child abuse. Good and simple
For adults: I don't really care.
Please explain why?

Just a guess here, but forcing a small children into a painful procedure with pretty negligible benefits when it is not medical necessity that will alter their body for the rest of their life might just be one reason.
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Anglia and Francia wrote:
Marcurix wrote:
I suppose cutting a bit off someone for no reason might be something to argue.
But why is cutting a bit off someone in a safe surgery child abuse?

Why is unnecessarily cutting off the tip of a child's finger child abuse if done by a doctor?
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Postby Myrensis » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:58 pm

UBS wrote:
ESTU wrote:Since abandoning Christianity, I really don't see the point of circumcision. I'd have to do some research on it before I make a full decision. As of this point, I'm not for it or against. If I were to have boy at this time, I'd probably have him circumcised just because I am. Keep things consistent.

Eh that is a pretty bad reason,seems like a little to much hassle just for that reason


How about "Performing what amounts to cosmetic surgery on an infant to satisfy your personal religious beliefs or sense of aesthetics is terrible."?

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Postby Marcurix » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:59 pm

Anglia and Francia wrote:
Marcurix wrote:
I suppose cutting a bit off someone for no reason might be something to argue.
But why is cutting a bit off someone in a safe surgery child abuse?


Because you're altering your child body for no good reason, usually without giving them a choice in the matter. I am also under the impression its done while the child is awake, so there's that too.
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Postby Anglia and Francia » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:59 pm

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Anglia and Francia wrote: But why is cutting a bit off someone in a safe surgery child abuse?

Why is unnecessarily cutting off the tip of a child's finger child abuse if done by a doctor?
Because those are not comparable situations.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:00 pm

Myrensis wrote:
UBS wrote:Eh that is a pretty bad reason,seems like a little to much hassle just for that reason


How about "Performing what amounts to cosmetic surgery on an infant to satisfy your personal religious beliefs or sense of aesthetics is terrible."?

I don't get the "I want my child to look like me" argument. My mother never bleached my hair blonde, and that's certainly not as painful or permanent as circumcision.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:02 pm

Anglia and Francia wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Why is unnecessarily cutting off the tip of a child's finger child abuse if done by a doctor?
Because those are not comparable situations.

They actually kind of are.
Chopping off part of a child's penis
Chopping off part of a child's finger
Both are generally medically unnecessary and wrong.
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