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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:10 pm

Kratu wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:I still have most of mine, since the doctor fucked up. I actually like it the way it is, it's like jacket that it takes off whenever...

I'm not going anymore into this. I've probably already pushed the PG-13 rule to it's limit. :unsure:

I think I may be scarred for life. :p

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Postby Communal Earth » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:10 pm

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Communal Earth wrote:Ban the practice all together. It will never be consensual. The male will always regret it because it decreases sensitivity and comfort and the practice itself is archaic and totally unneeded.

I wouldn't ban it. Consenting adults should be able to mutilate themselves as they please. Infants, however, should not.


I agree, consenting adults should be able mutilate themselves but the practice with infants should be entirely banned. #pissedthatIwasmutilated
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Postby Ashyaria » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:11 pm

Political Wisdom wrote:I'm against it, unless it is done for medical reasons, because it is an unnatural mutilation and completely unnecessary. It has its origin in Jewish and Muslim religion, although a majority of people from the USA still mistakenly believe circumcision is required for genital hygiene.

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Postby Rebellious Fishermen » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:11 pm

My child will probably be circumcised.

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Postby UBS » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:12 pm

Communal Earth wrote:it decreases sensitivity and comfort

false

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Postby Political Wisdom » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:12 pm

Bohemia Minor wrote:
Political Wisdom wrote:Hmm, we believe God made all babies perfect... except for their penises. So, let's make the rational decision to cut a piece of skin from the end of their dicks. lol

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Postby Benuty » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:12 pm

ODMS Babel wrote:I want my goddamn foreskin back. That is my view.

Then sue your parents, and/or the doctor who performed the circumcision for violation of bodily rights.
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Postby Communal Earth » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:13 pm

UBS wrote:
Communal Earth wrote:it decreases sensitivity and comfort

false


Explain how it is false.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:14 pm

Communal Earth wrote:Ban the practice all together. It will never be consensual. The male will always regret it(1) because it decreases sensitivity (2) and comfort (3) and the practice itself is archaic and totally unneeded (4).

1) This is not the case.
2) This is scientifically proven to not be the case.
3) I have seen nothing to prove this, and the results of the similar claim in point #2 (and the anti-circs 'side' history of not paying attention to the science on point #2) leads me towards skepticism.
4) *shrug*
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Postby UBS » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:14 pm

Communal Earth wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:I wouldn't ban it. Consenting adults should be able to mutilate themselves as they please. Infants, however, should not.


I agree, consenting adults should be able mutilate themselves but the practice with infants should be entirely banned. #pissedthatIwasmutilated

"Mutilation",I think we need better definition for this word,because technically any harm caused to a body could be considered mutilation.

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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:15 pm

I am circumcised. I actually support it, if it's used for religious or healthcare reasons only

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Postby UBS » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:16 pm

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Communal Earth wrote:Ban the practice all together. It will never be consensual. The male will always regret it(1) because it decreases sensitivity (2) and comfort (3) and the practice itself is archaic and totally unneeded (4).

1) This is not the case.
2) This is scientifically proven to not be the case.
3) I have seen nothing to prove this, and the results of the similar claim in point #2 (and the anti-circs 'side' history of not paying attention to the science on point #2) leads me towards skepticism.
4) *shrug*

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:16 pm

The Underground Movement Union wrote:religious

Why? There is no guarantee the child will grow up to be the same religion as you.
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Postby ESTU » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:20 pm

UBS wrote:
ESTU wrote:Since abandoning Christianity, I really don't see the point of circumcision. I'd have to do some research on it before I make a full decision. As of this point, I'm not for it or against. If I were to have boy at this time, I'd probably have him circumcised just because I am. Keep things consistent.

Eh that is a pretty bad reason,seems like a little to much hassle just for that reason


Hassle? Its practically snipping the tip. What's the hassle about that?
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Postby Page » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:20 pm

Benuty wrote:
ODMS Babel wrote:I want my goddamn foreskin back. That is my view.

Then sue your parents, and/or the doctor who performed the circumcision for violation of bodily rights.


I really can't blame my parents or my doctor for doing something society has largely convinced them is totally harmless if not necessary. And a lawsuit won't bring back one's foreskin.
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Postby UBS » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:20 pm

New Frenco Empire wrote:
The Underground Movement Union wrote:religious

Why? There is no guarantee the child will grow up to be the same religion as you.

Yes and there is no guarantee a kid will stay in the USA,but you still have to say the pledge (at least to my understanding, I only came to america in high school,and they stop the pledge in high school)

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Postby Communal Earth » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:20 pm

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Communal Earth wrote:Ban the practice all together. It will never be consensual. The male will always regret it(1) because it decreases sensitivity (2) and comfort (3) and the practice itself is archaic and totally unneeded (4).

1) This is not the case.
2) This is scientifically proven to not be the case.
3) I have seen nothing to prove this, and the results of the similar claim in point #2 (and the anti-circs 'side' history of not paying attention to the science on point #2) leads me towards skepticism.
4) *shrug*


I heard differently.
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Postby UBS » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:21 pm

ESTU wrote:
UBS wrote:Eh that is a pretty bad reason,seems like a little to much hassle just for that reason


Hassle? Its practically snipping the tip. What's the hassle about that?

True,I revoke that response I made

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Postby Benuty » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:21 pm

Page wrote:
Benuty wrote:Then sue your parents, and/or the doctor who performed the circumcision for violation of bodily rights.


I really can't blame my parents or my doctor for doing something society has largely convinced them is totally harmless if not necessary. And a lawsuit won't bring back one's foreskin.

Actually it can, if you gain enough money for foreskin restoration techniques.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:22 pm

UBS wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:Why? There is no guarantee the child will grow up to be the same religion as you.

Yes and there is no guarantee a kid will stay in the USA,but you still have to say the pledge (at least to my understanding, I only came to america in high school,and they stop the pledge in high school)

And kids don't have to say it if they don't want. At least, they shouldn't be, but some American schools are backwards.

Not to mention, a couple patriotic words is nothing like dickskin.
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Postby Sisterhood » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:22 pm

we'll never do that to our males in this empire...

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Postby Benuty » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:23 pm

Sisterhood wrote:we'll never do that to our males in this empire...

NSG is OOC.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:24 pm

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So we should make it mandatory on the same theory as mandatory vaccination. Any one who refuses is a homophobic misogynist prude.
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Postby UBS » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:24 pm

Communal Earth wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:1) This is not the case.
2) This is scientifically proven to not be the case.
3) I have seen nothing to prove this, and the results of the similar claim in point #2 (and the anti-circs 'side' history of not paying attention to the science on point #2) leads me towards skepticism.
4) *shrug*


I heard differently.

Take it from an actual circumcised man,it does not, and if it does,sex still feels pretty damn good even without that tiny piece of skin,unlike female genital mutilation which we can all agree is awful.

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Postby Pelestria » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:24 pm

For those who have it as part of their religious traditions, fair enough. But I have found in my personal experience that in general it is completely unnecessary, and for those that like to cite health benefits- I have found the foreskin to be great as an indicator of the health of that area.
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