Does God (Christian) exist (Try No.2)

[The Prophet]

Sounds like he's agnostic...


Theism: Believes in God(s)
Atheism: Doesn't Believe in God(s)
Agnostic: Unsure of the existence of God(s)

Those are generally the three default choices..

Nope, again
theism: believing in god
atheism: not theism

gnosticism: knowing absolutely there or is not a god. (there are gnostic atheists and gnostic theists)
agnosticism: not gnosticism (there are agnostic atheists and theists)

The definition of atheism isn't "not theism", it's "rejection of belief in the existence of deities." Go check your dictionary, or google, wiki, etc.

If your gonna minimize your choices as such, then your left with Yes, No, and Maybe. For those are always the most rudimentary answers.

[Galloism]

I would further argue that if you do not accept the religious tenants of Buddhism, or your particular branch of Buddhism, you are not a Buddhist.

If an atheist went to church every Sunday and confessed his sins to a priest, I wouldn't call him a catholic.

Weeellll, no. As the philosophy behind Buddhism has 3 schools of thought. None of which follows exactly the same path. And you can definitely apply Buddhist tenets to your daily life. I have met Christians who also identify as Buddhist.

If you apply a tenant or two (or ten) of a religion to your personal life for your personal benefit, does it make you a member of that religion, even if you don't accept any of the rest of it?

[Arkolon]

The beginning of time is parallel to the beginning of matter. The reaction that caused matter to be created, and therefore time as well, was caused by something that transcends both time and matter. The existence of the creator-being cannot ever be known, because we can only see the material world and the world with, therefore, time. The existence of the creator-being, therefore, can only be sealed with Belief (for we cannot know the truth), so now it is doubly impossible to know whether or not the creator god exists.

I believe that there's something that transcends time and matter, yes. Does that make me a theist?

Nope.

Believing in a creator god doesn't make you a theist?

Is it a slow week at the Atheism Recruitment Agency HQ? Are you guys whoring the definition of "atheism" out as to totally encompass the theists, too?

[Talonis]

Nope.

Believing in a creator god doesn't make you a theist?

Is it a slow week at the Atheism Recruitment Agency HQ? Are you guys whoring the definition of "atheism" out as to totally encompass the theists, too?

Well, they already balled rocks in, so...

[Mavorpen]

Weeellll, no. As the philosophy behind Buddhism has 3 schools of thought. None of which follows exactly the same path. And you can definitely apply Buddhist tenets to your daily life. I have met Christians who also identify as Buddhist.

If you apply a tenant or two (or ten) of a religion to your personal life for your personal benefit, does it make you a member of that religion, even if you don't accept any of the rest of it?

That depends on the tenant. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that when it comes to religion, some are more important than others.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Weeellll, no. As the philosophy behind Buddhism has 3 schools of thought. None of which follows exactly the same path. And you can definitely apply Buddhist tenets to your daily life. I have met Christians who also identify as Buddhist.

If you apply a tenant or two (or ten) of a religion to your personal life for your personal benefit, does it make you a member of that religion, even if you don't accept any of the rest of it?

Yes. Christians from every sect do it constantly. Your problem is that you're being too much of a purist in a world that is anything but.

[Utah and Deseret]

Nope, again
theism: believing in god
atheism: not theism

gnosticism: knowing absolutely there or is not a god. (there are gnostic atheists and gnostic theists)
agnosticism: not gnosticism (there are agnostic atheists and theists)

The definition of atheism isn't "not theism", it's "rejection of belief in the existence of deities." Go check your dictionary, or google, wiki, etc.

If your gonna minimize your choices as such, then your left with Yes, No, and Maybe. For those are always the most rudimentary answers.

My google says

a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

So, that means all non theists are a form of atheist.
My knowldge of etymology tells me it is from the prefix "a" meaning "not a" and the word "theist" meaning "believer in some form of deity"
So all non believers of some form of deity are atheists.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Nope.

Believing in a creator god doesn't make you a theist?

Is it a slow week at the Atheism Recruitment Agency HQ? Are you guys whoring the definition of "atheism" out as to totally encompass the theists, too?

i believe in God, Maker of Heaven and Earth. Who is outside the space-time world we exist in.
This clearly makes me an atheist. Or, I suppose, to be precise, a non-theist. Which is, of course, an atheist.

[Galloism]

If you apply a tenant or two (or ten) of a religion to your personal life for your personal benefit, does it make you a member of that religion, even if you don't accept any of the rest of it?

Yes. Christians from every sect do it constantly. Your problem is that you're being too much of a purist in a world that is anything but.

I know a shit ton of Christian atheists.

Awkward.

[Arkolon]

Believing in a creator god doesn't make you a theist?

Is it a slow week at the Atheism Recruitment Agency HQ? Are you guys whoring the definition of "atheism" out as to totally encompass the theists, too?

i believe in God, Maker of Heaven and Earth. Who is outside the space-time world we exist in.
This clearly makes me an atheist.

I CAN NEVER TELL IF YOUR POSTS ARE SARCASTIC AND FIGURATIVELY COCKED AT ME OR IF YOU'RE CONCURRING WITH MY SENTIMENTS

[Mavorpen]

Yes. Christians from every sect do it constantly. Your problem is that you're being too much of a purist in a world that is anything but.

I know a shit ton of Christian atheists.

Awkward.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you on my Foe list for bringing back memories of Bluth.

[Occupied Deutschland]

i believe in God, Maker of Heaven and Earth. Who is outside the space-time world we exist in.
This clearly makes me an atheist.

I CAN NEVER TELL IF YOUR POSTS ARE SARCASTIC AND FIGURATIVELY COCKED AT ME OR IF YOU'RE CONCURRING WITH MY SENTIMENTS

Usually concurring, sometimes sarcastic just for the sake of it.

In that case, I was concurring. His usage doesn't make much sense to me as it could, literally, include me as an atheist.

[Galloism]

If you apply a tenant or two (or ten) of a religion to your personal life for your personal benefit, does it make you a member of that religion, even if you don't accept any of the rest of it?

That depends on the tenant. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that when it comes to religion, some are more important than others.

Fair enough.

What would you say is the most important tenant in Buddhism?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Yes. Christians from every sect do it constantly. Your problem is that you're being too much of a purist in a world that is anything but.

I know a shit ton of Christian atheists.

Awkward.

Do you deny Christians do this?

[The Prophet]

The definition of atheism isn't "not theism", it's "rejection of belief in the existence of deities." Go check your dictionary, or google, wiki, etc.

If your gonna minimize your choices as such, then your left with Yes, No, and Maybe. For those are always the most rudimentary answers.

My google says

a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

So, that means all non theists are a form of atheist.
My knowldge of etymology tells me it is from the prefix "a" meaning "not a" and the word "theist" meaning "believer in some form of deity"
So all non believers of some form of deity are atheists.

Anyone who doesn't believe in God(s) is an atheist, and all those who do believe in God(s) are theist.

But someone who is unsure of the existence of God doesn't fit into either category, which is why the term agnostic exist.

Yes, No, Maybe. Are always the three choices.

Maybe doesn't mean yes or no, and you can't argue that it does.

[Neutraligon]

Nope, again
theism: believing in god
atheism: not theism

gnosticism: knowing absolutely there or is not a god. (there are gnostic atheists and gnostic theists)
agnosticism: not gnosticism (there are agnostic atheists and theists)

The definition of atheism isn't "not theism", it's "rejection of belief in the existence of deities." Go check your dictionary, or google, wiki, etc.

If your gonna minimize your choices as such, then your left with Yes, No, and Maybe. For those are always the most rudimentary answers.

Go ahead and you look it up. Atheism is a lack of belief in god, which is not theism. It is not the rejection of belief in god

Oxford: Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
And for an existence claim you are left with yes or no, maybe is not an option since something either exists or id does not exist So again you are wrong. Also by etymology you are compltely wrong, a means not so atheism means not theism.

[Mavorpen]

That depends on the tenant. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that when it comes to religion, some are more important than others.

Fair enough.

What would you say is the most important tenant in Buddhism?

That spends on how complex you want me to get. Simplified version: The Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path. The complex version? Fuck, I'd have to ask one of the Venerable Masters at the temple I go to.

[Galloism]

I know a shit ton of Christian atheists.

Awkward.

Do you deny Christians do this?

I deny that every person who is faithful to his wife/husband and opposed to drunkenness is a Christian. Yes.

[Neutraligon]

Nope.

Believing in a creator god doesn't make you a theist?

Is it a slow week at the Atheism Recruitment Agency HQ? Are you guys whoring the definition of "atheism" out as to totally encompass the theists, too?

If you believe in a creator god then you are a theist. Again atheism is not theism, and theism is believing in a god. Believing there is something outside of space and time however does not mean you believe in a god.

[Utah and Deseret]

My google says
So, that means all non theists are a form of atheist.
My knowldge of etymology tells me it is from the prefix "a" meaning "not a" and the word "theist" meaning "believer in some form of deity"
So all non believers of some form of deity are atheists.

Anyone who doesn't believe in God(s) is an atheist, and all those who do believe in God(s) are theist.

But someone who is unsure of the existence of God doesn't fit into either category, which is why the term agnostic exist.

Yes, No, Maybe. Are always the three choices.

Maybe doesn't mean yes or no, and you can't argue that it does.

Person A: Do you believe in a God
Person B: Maybe.
Person A: Maybe?
Person B: Well I'm not sure there is one.
Person A: Oh, do you think there is one?
Person B: I am literally 50/50 on the entire thing.
Person A: Fair enough.

Huh, I guess it is possible.
But most people wouldn't be true agnostics then.

[The Prophet]

The definition of atheism isn't "not theism", it's "rejection of belief in the existence of deities." Go check your dictionary, or google, wiki, etc.

If your gonna minimize your choices as such, then your left with Yes, No, and Maybe. For those are always the most rudimentary answers.

Go ahead and you look it up. Atheism is a lack of belief in god, which is not theism. It is not the rejection of belief in god

Oxford: Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
And for an existence claim you are left with yes or no, maybe is not an option since something either exists or id does not exist So again you are wrong. Also by etymology you are compltely wrong, a means not so atheism means not theism.

That's semantics, define it how you like, but Anyone who doesn't believe in God(s) is an atheist, and all those who do believe in God(s) are theist.

But someone who is unsure of the existence of God doesn't fit into either category, which is why the term agnostic exist.

Yes, No, Maybe. Are always the three choices.

Maybe doesn't mean yes or no, and you can't argue that it does.

[Galloism]

Fair enough.

What would you say is the most important tenant in Buddhism?

That spends on how complex you want me to get. Simplified version: The Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path. The complex version? Fuck, I'd have to ask one of the Venerable Masters at the temple I go to.

Well, let's do the four noble truths.

The origin of suffering is ignorance to the true nature of things, correct?

[Neutraligon]

My google says
So, that means all non theists are a form of atheist.
My knowldge of etymology tells me it is from the prefix "a" meaning "not a" and the word "theist" meaning "believer in some form of deity"
So all non believers of some form of deity are atheists.

Anyone who doesn't believe in God(s) is an atheist, and all those who do believe in God(s) are theist.

But someone who is unsure of the existence of God doesn't fit into either category, which is why the term agnostic exist.

Yes, No, Maybe. Are always the three choices.

Maybe doesn't mean yes or no, and you can't argue that it does.

No agnostic exists as an adjective of theist or atheist. It does not answer the question do you believe, it answers the question how strongly do you believe. There are cases where there is no maybe option, exists claims are on of those times. Someone who is unsure still sits on one side or the other, even if they repeatedly cross the line.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Do you deny Christians do this?

I deny that every person who is faithful to his wife/husband and opposed to drunkenness is a Christian. Yes.

I see we're nitpicking, but fine. Tell me, do you deny that Christians from every sect pick and choose what they follow or apply to their lives? Do Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses believe the same way, exactly?

See, I get it, yes, I shouldn't have said that just because you apply a tenet of Buddhism or any other religion to your life that that makes you a Buddhism adherent. Touche. But you seem to be ignoring my question. And in that light, is it so hard to see how someone can call themselves a Buddhist Christian?

[Shaggai]

Nope.

Believing in a creator god doesn't make you a theist?

Is it a slow week at the Atheism Recruitment Agency HQ? Are you guys whoring the definition of "atheism" out as to totally encompass the theists, too?

Transcending time and space does not a god make. Math, for example, could be seen as transcending time and space. And yet math is not a god.