Does God (Christian) exist (Try No.2)

[Distruzionopolis]

I'm not the one claiming that he exists. I'm waiting for you to convince me that he exists.

Why are you doing that? He already said that he can't. His only goal here is to be as edgy as possible and contribute nothing of actual value.

So it's "edgy" to disagree with you now, Mav?

[Arkolon]

I'm not the one claiming that he exists. I'm waiting for you to convince me that he exists.

Why are you doing that? He already said that he can't. His only goal here is to be as edgy as possible and contribute nothing of actual value.

Says the Internet atheist.

[Shaggai]

I'm not the one claiming that he exists. I'm waiting for you to convince me that he exists.

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Yes, but by your definition literally everything is ultimately unknowable.

[Mavorpen]

I'm not the one claiming that he exists. I'm waiting for you to convince me that he exists.

You are, however, the one claiming he doesn't exist.
While still hedging by referencing the high likelihoods he doesn't exist.

Hell, I don't think Arkolon's even been arguing towards existence of God, merely that such is a possibility that can't be confirmed or denied (with current abilities).
Which makes one's hedging their proclamations of 'there is no god' with 'probably's' become a bit problematic for those arguing with him.

Of course it can be denied. And it is. For good reason. That doesn't mean it'll forever stay that way, though.

[Mavorpen]

Why are you doing that? He already said that he can't. His only goal here is to be as edgy as possible and contribute nothing of actual value.

Says the Internet atheist.

Why yes, I'm an atheist on the internet.

It's like you're trying to prove the point I made in that post.

[The Prophet]

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Yes, but by your definition literally everything is ultimately unknowable.

I don't know about that.

[Arkolon]

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Yes, but by your definition literally everything is ultimately unknowable.

What? No?

[Eastern Equestria]

I'm not the one claiming that he exists. I'm waiting for you to convince me that he exists.

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

[Mavorpen]

Why are you doing that? He already said that he can't. His only goal here is to be as edgy as possible and contribute nothing of actual value.

So it's "edgy" to disagree with you now, Mav?

I'm not sure how you could draw that conclusion considering I agree with him.

[Neutraligon]

I'm not the one claiming that he exists. I'm waiting for you to convince me that he exists.

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Agnostic what? By what you said you are an agnostic atheist.

[Immoren]

Yes, but by your definition literally everything is ultimately unknowable.

I don't know about that.

Muddy waters.
Or perhaps its chocolate pudding

[Arkolon]

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Hah, it's coincidentally my favourite soft drink.

[The House of Xavier]

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Agnostic what? By what you said you are an agnostic atheist.

an agnostic-atheist-theist/deist statist social-anarchist.

[Distruzionopolis]

So it's "edgy" to disagree with you now, Mav?

I'm not sure how you could draw that conclusion considering I agree with him.

Sure. Okay.

[Galloism]

Read my first post here. I do not pretend that he exists. I am an agnostic. I am saying that God's existence is ultimately unknowable.

Fan-fucking-tastic.

[Neutraligon]

Agnostic what? By what you said you are an agnostic atheist.

an agnostic-atheist-theist/deist statist social-anarchist.

Yay contradictions in terms.

[Shaggai]

Yes, but by your definition literally everything is ultimately unknowable.

What? No?

You said that

There being a 0.00001% chance of God existing doesn't mean he does exist.

It does mean that there is a chance he exists, and because God's phase space cannot be turned into real space (as God can only exist in phase space), you cannot say that God objectively isn't, because, and you literally just admitted it, there is a chance he is.

God is a permanent hypothetical. You cannot say he exists just as much as you cannot say he does not exist.

The 0.00001% chance means that God's existence is ultimately unknowable. But there is no absolutely certain knowledge, so everything is ultimately unknowable.

[Distruzionopolis]

What? No?

You said that

It does mean that there is a chance he exists, and because God's phase space cannot be turned into real space (as God can only exist in phase space), you cannot say that God objectively isn't, because, and you literally just admitted it, there is a chance he is.

God is a permanent hypothetical. You cannot say he exists just as much as you cannot say he does not exist.

The 0.00001% chance means that God's existence is ultimately unknowable. But there is no absolutely certain knowledge, so everything is ultimately unknowable.

Did he say that there is no absolute certain knowledge?

[Immoren]

Agnostic what? By what you said you are an agnostic atheist.

an agnostic-atheist-theist/deist statist social-anarchist.

Darts is fine hobby.

[Mavorpen]

I'm not sure how you could draw that conclusion considering I agree with him.

Sure. Okay.

I'm confused. What gave you the impression that I don't agree with him? I agree with agnosticism. I don't think I've ever said otherwise.

Unless you're actually saying "Sure. Okay." but pretending to say it in a sarcastic way to convince yourself you're right while knowing you aren't.

[Shaggai]

You said that
The 0.00001% chance means that God's existence is ultimately unknowable. But there is no absolutely certain knowledge, so everything is ultimately unknowable.

Did he say that there is no absolute certain knowledge?

No, he did not. But if he did, he would be wrong. There cannot be absolutely certain knowledge.

[Arkolon]

What? No?

You said that

It does mean that there is a chance he exists, and because God's phase space cannot be turned into real space (as God can only exist in phase space), you cannot say that God objectively isn't, because, and you literally just admitted it, there is a chance he is.

God is a permanent hypothetical. You cannot say he exists just as much as you cannot say he does not exist.

The 0.00001% chance means that God's existence is ultimately unknowable. But there is no absolutely certain knowledge, so everything is ultimately unknowable.

I went through the solipsism-nihilism phase a good ten years ago. If you want to start down that road and order Thus Spake Zarathusra over Amazon, be my guest, but I'm telling you now that it's a waste of time.

[Ikania]

There is no such things as gods.

Source Nervun does not exist?

The almighty [violet] willed it to be so. If you disagree you're obviously a heretic.

[Distruzionopolis]

Sure. Okay.

I'm confused. What gave you the impression that I don't agree with him? I agree with agnosticism. I don't think I've ever said otherwise.

Unless you're actually saying "Sure. Okay." but pretending to say it in a sarcastic way to convince yourself you're right while knowing you aren't.

Convince myself that I'm right? Did I make an assertion?

[Mavorpen]

Did he say that there is no absolute certain knowledge?

No, he did not. But if he did, he would be wrong. There cannot be absolutely certain knowledge.

Are you absolutely certain about that? *nods*