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Postby United States Kingdom » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:01 pm

Alouite wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Globally, it is an overblown issue. For those African nations where it is actually occurring, it's a serious issue. Do you see the difference, son? The WHO is treating it as a threat, yes, because it is a threat to the nations where people are becoming infected. The CDC, being an American agency, is overreacting. That's what America does best.

You are not my father, do not call me son. WHO said that it is a threat to the developed world and the developing world.

Fixed that for you.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/10 ... -of-ebola/
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Postby Grand Britannia » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:06 pm

Should have called it "Ebolanation" it has a nice ring to it and rolls off the tongue better.
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Postby Reformed SU » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:11 pm

-Ebola- wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:What the everloving fuck are you talking about?


I'm glad I was not the only one who was confused. It's embarrassing when everyone else knows what's going on and I don't understand it because I don't have a brain.

Oh, that is funny being prokaryote cells have no nucleus (the brain of the cell).

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Postby Reformed SU » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:15 pm

Now with the possible threat of Ebola, children can now reply to their parent's "Wait until Christmas" sentence.
"Yeah, I'll survive two months and thriteen days along with Ebola just to play the Xbox One on my deathbed."

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:28 pm

Reformed SU wrote:
-Ebola- wrote:
I'm glad I was not the only one who was confused. It's embarrassing when everyone else knows what's going on and I don't understand it because I don't have a brain.

Oh, that is funny being prokaryote cells have no nucleus (the brain of the cell).


Ebola doesn't have cells. Bacteria are prokaryotic cells. Viruses are not cell-based at all.
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Postby -Ebola- » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:45 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:Should have called it "Ebolanation" it has a nice ring to it and rolls off the tongue better.


It's not quite the tone I was going for... It sounds like a human nation populated by Ebola enthusiasts, which is not what I wanted.

The dashes don't bother me that much, anyway. It kind of feels natural to start and end my name with extraneous characters that don't communicate any meaning. My genome is the same way.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:30 am

United States Kingdom wrote:
Alouite wrote:You are not my father, do not call me son. WHO said that it is a threat to the developed world and the developing world.

Fixed that for you.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/10 ... -of-ebola/

You are pitting RTE news, something I haven't heard of until today against the World Health Organization. :clap:
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Postby Nerotysia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:35 am

Alouite wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Globally, it is an overblown issue. For those African nations where it is actually occurring, it's a serious issue. Do you see the difference, son? The WHO is treating it as a threat, yes, because it is a threat to the nations where people are becoming infected. The CDC, being an American agency, is overreacting. That's what America does best.

You are not my father, do not call me son. WHO said that it is a threat to the developed world and the undeveloped world.

Perhaps I've missed an earlier post, but the WHO has said that it's a threat to everyone? Where? When? Why? I need to request a source.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:36 am

Alouite wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:Fixed that for you.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2014/10 ... -of-ebola/

You are pitting RTE news, something I haven't heard of until today against the World Health Organization. :clap:

Its the main news network of the irish republic.

At least i think its the main one, ive only looked at it a few times.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:38 am

Ebola: Now in Dallas, Texas

I wonder if it will survive in Michigan's cold as it got to 23F in Baldwin and Leoti up around Clare on Saturday. 28 this morning...
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Postby Great Latine and Sibarova » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:48 am

Wow, intense much.... :blink: :?:

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Postby Alouite » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:00 am

Nerotysia wrote:
Alouite wrote:You are not my father, do not call me son. WHO said that it is a threat to the developed world and the undeveloped world.

Perhaps I've missed an earlier post, but the WHO has said that it's a threat to everyone? Where? When? Why? I need to request a source.

Did I say everyone? Please stop your ridiculous responses with that one. I only said that they said it could affect the developed and undeveloped world. Nowhere did I say that it would kill everyone, I was just telling you not to speak too soon because it could potentially affect other nations besides those in West Africa. Heck, just today a nurse that was treating the Ebola patient in Dallas got Ebola. But that is besides the point. I am not predicting the end, nor am I predicting that it will cause the end of mankind, or even really effect America. I am just saying that the WHO wants the developed world prepared, because if not taken seriously at all it could be a threat. Here you can see then trying to raise awareness of its danger so they can find a cure to the disease.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:00 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Alouite wrote:You are pitting RTE news, something I haven't heard of until today against the World Health Organization. :clap:

Its the main news network of the irish republic.

At least i think its the main one, ive only looked at it a few times.

Still, the News vs. the WHO?
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Postby Galloism » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:06 am

Seangoli wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:That is good to hear. I was always under the assumption that once a person was infected they were doomed.


Ebola typically has about a 50% mortality rate, but previous outbreaks range from a 25-90% mortality rate, increasing significantly with proper treatment and care.

I'm not an expert on immunology or anything, but shouldn't be the mortality rate be decreasing with proper treatment and care?
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Postby Alouite » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:12 am

Galloism wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
Ebola typically has about a 50% mortality rate, but previous outbreaks range from a 25-90% mortality rate, increasing significantly with proper treatment and care.

I'm not expert on immunology or anything, but shouldn't be the mortality rate be decreasing with proper treatment and care?

Yes, but somehow it thrives in medical conditions? [theory]. A more realistic reason for this may be that old versions of Ebola that affected those in the currently infected region have helped gear the infected people's immune system for the virus due to their immune systems seeing a similar virus before, and so despite them not having good medical care their immune systems are better prepared for the virus than those in developed areas with better medical care, who are less likely to have encountered the virus. [more plausible theory]
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:38 am

Galloism wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
Ebola typically has about a 50% mortality rate, but previous outbreaks range from a 25-90% mortality rate, increasing significantly with proper treatment and care.

I'm not expert on immunology or anything, but shouldn't be the mortality rate be decreasing with proper treatment and care?

Because the rate goes up due to other opportunistic germs also setting up camp like MRSA and others. Ebola gets the people into the hospital where MRSA wipes the weakened person out.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:40 am

Dallas Nurse test positive for Ebola.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html

I hope she or he survives.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:41 am

Alouite wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Its the main news network of the irish republic.

At least i think its the main one, ive only looked at it a few times.

Still, the News vs. the WHO?

Hey i was just clarifying who they were.

But yeah i would take the word of the WHO over a news network.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:46 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Alouite wrote:Still, the News vs. the WHO?

Hey i was just clarifying who they were.

But yeah i would take the word of the WHO over a news network.

I wasn't accusing you, but I do thank you for explaining what RTE is, it makes it a little more credible in my mind.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:50 am

Galloism wrote:
Seangoli wrote:
Ebola typically has about a 50% mortality rate, but previous outbreaks range from a 25-90% mortality rate, increasing significantly with proper treatment and care.

I'm not expert on immunology or anything, but shouldn't be the mortality rate be decreasing with proper treatment and care?

Depends on how you define proper care. If for instance leaching is proper care then maybe he was right.
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Postby Nerotysia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:04 am

Alouite wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:Perhaps I've missed an earlier post, but the WHO has said that it's a threat to everyone? Where? When? Why? I need to request a source.

Did I say everyone? Please stop your ridiculous responses with that one. I only said that they said it could affect the developed and undeveloped world. Nowhere did I say that it would kill everyone, I was just telling you not to speak too soon because it could potentially affect other nations besides those in West Africa. Heck, just today a nurse that was treating the Ebola patient in Dallas got Ebola. But that is besides the point. I am not predicting the end, nor am I predicting that it will cause the end of mankind, or even really effect America. I am just saying that the WHO wants the developed world prepared, because if not taken seriously at all it could be a threat. Here you can see then trying to raise awareness of its danger so they can find a cure to the disease.
http://www.afro.who.int/en/media-centre/pressreleases/item/6997-who-welcomes-decision-to-establish-united-nations-mission-for-ebola-emergency-response.html

No, you said it could threaten both developed and developing nations. The use of the word threaten is hyperbolic and ridiculous. The virus poses nearly no threat to the developed world. Of course it will affect a large web of nations, but it's hardly a threat to western nations. And your source does not support the idea that it's a threat to the west.

It seems to have been simply a misunderstanding, in any case. It's certainly a significant threat to Africa and other developing areas.

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Postby Vekalse » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:12 am

Annddd... Nurse infected.
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Postby Alouite » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:22 am

Nerotysia wrote:
Alouite wrote:Did I say everyone? Please stop your ridiculous responses with that one. I only said that they said it could affect the developed and undeveloped world. Nowhere did I say that it would kill everyone, I was just telling you not to speak too soon because it could potentially affect other nations besides those in West Africa. Heck, just today a nurse that was treating the Ebola patient in Dallas got Ebola. But that is besides the point. I am not predicting the end, nor am I predicting that it will cause the end of mankind, or even really effect America. I am just saying that the WHO wants the developed world prepared, because if not taken seriously at all it could be a threat. Here you can see then trying to raise awareness of its danger so they can find a cure to the disease.
http://www.afro.who.int/en/media-centre/pressreleases/item/6997-who-welcomes-decision-to-establish-united-nations-mission-for-ebola-emergency-response.html

No, you said it could threaten both developed and developing nations. The use of the word threaten is hyperbolic and ridiculous. The virus poses nearly no threat to the developed world. Of course it will affect a large web of nations, but it's hardly a threat to western nations. And your source does not support the idea that it's a threat to the west.

It seems to have been simply a misunderstanding, in any case. It's certainly a significant threat to Africa and other developing areas.

It could threaten the stability of them given the fact that it has horrifying symptoms, but I think nations overreacting is better than them ignoring Ebola.
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Postby Martean » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:25 am

The good thing of nurses in Spain and US being infected by Ebola is that now pharmatheutics will start to develop a treatment...
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:27 am

Alouite wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Globally, it is an overblown issue. For those African nations where it is actually occurring, it's a serious issue. Do you see the difference, son? The WHO is treating it as a threat, yes, because it is a threat to the nations where people are becoming infected. The CDC, being an American agency, is overreacting. That's what America does best.

You are not my father, do not call me son. WHO said that it is a threat to the developed world and the undeveloped world.

Which is an overreaction.
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