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Postby New Decius » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:56 pm

Vekalse wrote:
New Decius wrote:Listen to what I say and calm down!

Ebola has not mutated and contrary to what the nut that started this thread says, it is highly unlikely that it will. Health and Science Officials of numerous countries such as America, France, Russia, Germany, Japan, and several others along with Officials from both the UN and EU, have stated that it is highly unlikely Ebola will mutate into an airborne strain as Ebola itself is not in such a classification of virus which could do that. Ebola is transferred via contact with the bodily fluids on an infected person (Meaning Blood, Vomit, Spit, Mucus, Urine, etc.) and the viral bacteria only rises to the surface of the skin of the body after death, so unless you are touching a dead person who was plagued by Ebola, without protective gear, within the first week or so since death, you will not get the virus just by touching the person themselves like via a handshake or pat on the back. Rumors like these are just started by people who are sick in the head enough to like watching panic, fear, and chaos run free. That's all these rumors of mutation are, rumors. Not fact. This kind of thing always happens when you listen to less official media sources like your local news or talk shows, instead of paying attention to what professionals are saying.

There are actually some very simple procedures to prevent the spread of Ebola if you come into contact with the fluids listed above. You can prevent the spread of Ebola same as how you would a Cold or a Flu. Wash your Hands, stay clean, be watchful and if you start to feel sick then waste no time in telling your doctor as a precaution. Again remember that such things are advised in the normal role of preventing the spread of disease but, as I said, be especially careful if you come into contact with the above fluids of a possibly infected person. Even on a regular, every day basis that should be clear.

Do you know what will hurt and kill more than Ebola? Fear and panic caused by these ridiculous mutation rumors that are started by the same people who said the world would end in 2012, and did it, NO! So be smart and don't believe everything your local news or favorite talk show host says. Stay calm and don't descend into hysteria.

The reason Ebola has spread so fast in West Africa is because people living there do not have access to the proper supplies to prevent its spread. People living, (And I am not trying to encourage Illegal Immigration here) in Second and First World Countries like the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Italy, Russia, Japan, Canada, Brazil, and other similar countries, do have access to the proper supplies to prevent the spread of the disease. Just remember that the best things you can do are to:
Stay Calm and Do Not Panic
Be careful of what you touch or step in
Stay Clean and do what you regularly would to prevent yourself getting sick from anything
Be rational and wise in what you do (Don't try and heal yourself, go directly to your Doctor and calmly request the proper tests be done and wait patiently for the results. If you have gotten Ebola, don't panic as Hospitals in dozens of countries have been prepared for such things for months now and will be well equipped to help destroy the virus before it really takes hold in your system)

A thought to remember. Ebola patients will start to see Symptoms appear within 21 days of coming in contact with infected fluids. Be quick and ask, even just as a precaution, your doctor for the proper tests within a week of contact. Kill it before it can really fester.

Stay calm.


1) I never said that it did.
2) I never said that it did.
3) I never said that it did.

So... You're the nut.


Really I'm the nut for advising against mass panic and hysteria? Whereas your one of the nuts starting it up.
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Postby Vekalse » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:00 pm

New Decius wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
1) I never said that it did.
2) I never said that it did.
3) I never said that it did.

So... You're the nut.


Really I'm the nut for advising against mass panic and hysteria? Whereas your one of the nuts starting it up.


No. I'm saying your a nut because you hallucinated, and stated that I had said "Ebola mutated."
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Postby New Decius » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:05 pm

Vekalse wrote:
New Decius wrote:
Really I'm the nut for advising against mass panic and hysteria? Whereas your one of the nuts starting it up.


No. I'm saying your a nut because you hallucinated, and stated that I had said "Ebola mutated."


Really, so my reading through the opening post and seeing multiple points where you are obviously implying that it WILL happen and SOON, was just insanity was it.
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Postby Vekalse » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:07 pm

New Decius wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
No. I'm saying your a nut because you hallucinated, and stated that I had said "Ebola mutated."


Really, so my reading through the opening post and seeing multiple points where you are obviously implying that it WILL happen and SOON, was just insanity was it.


No. It probably won't. And why did you block me? Really?

I agree with you; I'm arguing the fact that you said "It is not even scientifically possible for it to mutate!"
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Postby New Decius » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:09 pm

Vekalse wrote:
New Decius wrote:
Really, so my reading through the opening post and seeing multiple points where you are obviously implying that it WILL happen and SOON, was just insanity was it.


No. It probably won't. And why did you block me? Really?

I agree with you; I'm arguing the fact that you said "It is not even scientifically possible for it to mutate!"


For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.
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Postby Vekalse » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:12 pm

New Decius wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
No. It probably won't. And why did you block me? Really?

I agree with you; I'm arguing the fact that you said "It is not even scientifically possible for it to mutate!"


For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


I never said it WAS likely to, smart-one. No, no... It really wouldn't. It can be as simple as a cellular-structure re-positioning.
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Postby New Decius » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:17 pm

Vekalse wrote:
New Decius wrote:
For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


I never said it WAS likely to, smart-one. No, no... It really wouldn't. It can be as simple as a cellular-structure re-positioning.


It would need a catalyst fool. Read up on it!
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Postby Vekalse » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:19 pm

New Decius wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
I never said it WAS likely to, smart-one. No, no... It really wouldn't. It can be as simple as a cellular-structure re-positioning.


It would need a catalyst fool. Read up on it!


Sure... whatever. It's the same. It CAN.

Don't call me a fool. Have you forgotten you called A VIRUS unable to scientifically mutate?
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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:22 pm

Vekalse wrote:
New Decius wrote:
It would need a catalyst fool. Read up on it!


Sure... whatever. It's the same. It CAN.

Don't call me a fool. Have you forgotten you called A VIRUS unable to scientifically mutate?

For the last time.

It's highly, highly unlikely it will mutate in any relevant or threatening way.

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Postby Thenica Pas » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:24 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
Sure... whatever. It's the same. It CAN.

Don't call me a fool. Have you forgotten you called A VIRUS unable to scientifically mutate?

For the last time.

It's highly, highly unlikely it will mutate in any relevant or threatening way.


It CAN. I agree with you, though,

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:57 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:I just heard the first US victim of Ebola died. Anyone know if it's spread out from Texas?


Dude, it hasn't even spread out of his room.

They're going to cremate him and that's that. The family is under observation but it seems they were not infected.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:57 pm

New Decius wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
No. I'm saying your a nut because you hallucinated, and stated that I had said "Ebola mutated."


Really, so my reading through the opening post and seeing multiple points where you are obviously implying that it WILL happen and SOON, was just insanity was it.

Odds are that it has mutated already, but not in a way that would put humans at greater risk.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:00 pm

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Until the virus evolves to be airborne and the healthcare system of the western world collapses, I won't worry at all about Ebola.

You're wrong if you think western healthcare stops ebola in its tracks. That is just not true. Many of the Europeans who've come back sick have died despite the best efforts of the systems around them, their general previous good health, and attempts by the big drug companies to have a go with just about any antiviral they still make to cure ebola (there are a ton coming through labs at the moment being recertified and I'm sure that's why).

If you catch ebola, you will probably die. No matter how sloppy you think Africans are when it comes to healthcare, the reality is that nobody has a very good answer to the disease.


Since we have no cure on Ebola all we can do is prevent the spread of the disease so it doesn't become an epidemic in our countries.

You will likely die, yes; but you won't end up putting the nation at risk.
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Postby New Decius » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:03 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Allet Klar Chefs wrote:You're wrong if you think western healthcare stops ebola in its tracks. That is just not true. Many of the Europeans who've come back sick have died despite the best efforts of the systems around them, their general previous good health, and attempts by the big drug companies to have a go with just about any antiviral they still make to cure ebola (there are a ton coming through labs at the moment being recertified and I'm sure that's why).

If you catch ebola, you will probably die. No matter how sloppy you think Africans are when it comes to healthcare, the reality is that nobody has a very good answer to the disease.


Since we have no cure on Ebola all we can do is prevent the spread of the disease so it doesn't become an epidemic in our countries.

You will likely die, yes; but you won't end up putting the nation at risk.


Well you cant exactly cure it, but you can stop it if you get treatment before the symptoms can set in.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:04 pm

New Decius wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Since we have no cure on Ebola all we can do is prevent the spread of the disease so it doesn't become an epidemic in our countries.

You will likely die, yes; but you won't end up putting the nation at risk.


Well you cant exactly cure it, but you can stop it if you get treatment before the symptoms can set in.


True, main treatment consists mainly of hydration and coagulant regulation. It's not a fail-safe method, but it's better than nothing.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:54 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Allet Klar Chefs wrote:You're wrong if you think western healthcare stops ebola in its tracks. That is just not true. Many of the Europeans who've come back sick have died despite the best efforts of the systems around them, their general previous good health, and attempts by the big drug companies to have a go with just about any antiviral they still make to cure ebola (there are a ton coming through labs at the moment being recertified and I'm sure that's why).

If you catch ebola, you will probably die. No matter how sloppy you think Africans are when it comes to healthcare, the reality is that nobody has a very good answer to the disease.


Since we have no cure on Ebola all we can do is prevent the spread of the disease so it doesn't become an epidemic in our countries.

You will likely die, yes; but you won't end up putting the nation at risk.

Ease the symptoms so they do not kill you.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:25 pm

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:
Distruzio wrote:Until the virus evolves to be airborne and the healthcare system of the western world collapses, I won't worry at all about Ebola.

You're wrong if you think western healthcare stops ebola in its tracks. That is just not true. Many of the Europeans who've come back sick have died despite the best efforts of the systems around them, their general previous good health, and attempts by the big drug companies to have a go with just about any antiviral they still make to cure ebola (there are a ton coming through labs at the moment being recertified and I'm sure that's why).

If you catch ebola, you will probably die. No matter how sloppy you think Africans are when it comes to healthcare, the reality is that nobody has a very good answer to the disease.


They have been people who have been cured.

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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:19 pm

New Decius wrote:
Vekalse wrote:
No. It probably won't. And why did you block me? Really?

I agree with you; I'm arguing the fact that you said "It is not even scientifically possible for it to mutate!"


For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


All viruses have a history of mutating, same as bacteria, plants, animals, etc. It is how evolution works. If we didn't have a history of mutating, we'd all be the same, and think how boring the world would be. Some of us just mutate more often than others... I don't see the need to go around mutating all the time so I can make you sick over and over like flu.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:20 pm

-Ebola- wrote:
New Decius wrote:
For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


All viruses have a history of mutating, same as bacteria, plants, animals, etc. It is how evolution works. If we didn't have a history of mutating, we'd all be the same, and think how boring the world would be. Some of us just mutate more often than others... I don't see the need to go around mutating all the time so I can make you sick over and over like flu.

Wow, creating a nation about Ebola. Just wow.

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-Ebola- wrote:
New Decius wrote:
For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


All viruses have a history of mutating, same as bacteria, plants, animals, etc. It is how evolution works. If we didn't have a history of mutating, we'd all be the same, and think how boring the world would be. Some of us just mutate more often than others... I don't see the need to go around mutating all the time so I can make you sick over and over like flu.

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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:22 pm

Vekalse wrote:
New Decius wrote:
For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


I never said it WAS likely to, smart-one. No, no... It really wouldn't. It can be as simple as a cellular-structure re-positioning.


What do you mean by "cellular-structure re-positioning"?
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Postby Anglo-California » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:23 pm

According to my Plague Inc game, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea will survive Ebola.
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Postby Nerotysia » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:25 pm

-Ebola- wrote:
New Decius wrote:
For a virus to mutate it would need a catalyst or a trigger. And also a Virus with no history of ever mutating before is likely to mutate now.


All viruses have a history of mutating, same as bacteria, plants, animals, etc. It is how evolution works. If we didn't have a history of mutating, we'd all be the same, and think how boring the world would be. Some of us just mutate more often than others... I don't see the need to go around mutating all the time so I can make you sick over and over like flu.

Mutation doesn't drive evolution, natural selection does. And a vast majority of mutations are either neutral or outright harmful.

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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:34 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
-Ebola- wrote:
All viruses have a history of mutating, same as bacteria, plants, animals, etc. It is how evolution works. If we didn't have a history of mutating, we'd all be the same, and think how boring the world would be. Some of us just mutate more often than others... I don't see the need to go around mutating all the time so I can make you sick over and over like flu.

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Postby -Ebola- » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:35 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
-Ebola- wrote:
All viruses have a history of mutating, same as bacteria, plants, animals, etc. It is how evolution works. If we didn't have a history of mutating, we'd all be the same, and think how boring the world would be. Some of us just mutate more often than others... I don't see the need to go around mutating all the time so I can make you sick over and over like flu.

Mutation doesn't drive evolution, natural selection does. And a vast majority of mutations are either neutral or outright harmful.


Natural selection has nothing to select for without mutations. This is especially true of asexual species.
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