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Postby Reformed SU » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:21 pm

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Reformed SU wrote:Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

Is this...sarcasm, perhaps?

Nope.

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Postby New Decius » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:21 pm

New Decius wrote:Listen to what I say and calm down!

Ebola has not mutated and contrary to what the nut that started this thread says, it is highly unlikely that it will. Health and Science Officials of numerous countries such as America, France, Russia, Germany, Japan, and several others along with Officials from both the UN and EU, have stated that it is highly unlikely Ebola will mutate into an airborne strain as Ebola itself is not in such a classification of virus which could do that. Ebola is transferred via contact with the bodily fluids on an infected person (Meaning Blood, Vomit, Spit, Mucus, Urine, etc.) and the viral bacteria only rises to the surface of the skin of the body after death, so unless you are touching a dead person who was plagued by Ebola, without protective gear, within the first week or so since death, you will not get the virus just by touching the person themselves like via a handshake or pat on the back. Rumors like these are just started by people who are sick in the head enough to like watching panic, fear, and chaos run free. That's all these rumors of mutation are, rumors. Not fact. This kind of thing always happens when you listen to less official media sources like your local news or talk shows, instead of paying attention to what professionals are saying.

There are actually some very simple procedures to prevent the spread of Ebola if you come into contact with the fluids listed above. You can prevent the spread of Ebola same as how you would a Cold or a Flu. Wash your Hands, stay clean, be watchful and if you start to feel sick then waste no time in telling your doctor as a precaution. Again remember that such things are advised in the normal role of preventing the spread of disease but, as I said, be especially careful if you come into contact with the above fluids of a possibly infected person. Even on a regular, every day basis that should be clear.

Do you know what will hurt and kill more than Ebola? Fear and panic caused by these ridiculous mutation rumors that are started by the same people who said the world would end in 2012, and did it, NO! So be smart and don't believe everything your local news or favorite talk show host says. Stay calm and don't descend into hysteria.

The reason Ebola has spread so fast in West Africa is because people living there do not have access to the proper supplies to prevent its spread. People living, (And I am not trying to encourage Illegal Immigration here) in Second and First World Countries like the United States, United Kingdom, France, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Italy, Russia, Japan, Canada, Brazil, and other similar countries, do have access to the proper supplies to prevent the spread of the disease. Just remember that the best things you can do are to:
Stay Calm and Do Not Panic
Be careful of what you touch or step in
Stay Clean and do what you regularly would to prevent yourself getting sick from anything
Be rational and wise in what you do (Don't try and heal yourself, go directly to your Doctor and calmly request the proper tests be done and wait patiently for the results. If you have gotten Ebola, don't panic as Hospitals in dozens of countries have been prepared for such things for months now and will be well equipped to help destroy the virus before it really takes hold in your system)

A thought to remember. Ebola patients will start to see Symptoms appear within 21 days of coming in contact with infected fluids. Be quick and ask, even just as a precaution, your doctor for the proper tests within a week of contact. Kill it before it can really fester.

Stay calm.


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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:23 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:The economic impact includes costs of health care, working days lost due to sickness, days lost in education, decreased productivity due to brain damage from cerebral malaria, and loss of investment and tourism.[7] The disease has a heavy burden in some countries, where it may be responsible for 30–50% of hospital admissions, up to 50% of outpatient visits, and up to 40% of public health spending.[140]

That's gonna be pretty hard on treating Ebola.

The WHO estimates that in 2010 there were 219 million cases of malaria resulting in 660,000 deaths.[3][97] Others have estimated the number of cases at between 350 and 550 million for falciparum malaria[98] and deaths in 2010 at 1.24 million[99] up from 1.0 million deaths in 1990.[100] The majority of cases (65%) occur in children under 15 years old.[99] About 125 million pregnant women are at risk of infection each year; in Sub-Saharan Africa, maternal malaria is associated with up to 200,000 estimated infant deaths yearly.[15] There are about 10,000 malaria cases per year in Western Europe, and 1300–1500 in the United States.[12] About 900 people died from the disease in Europe between 1993 and 2003.[51] Both the global incidence of disease and resulting mortality have declined in recent years. According to the WHO, deaths attributable to malaria in 2010 were reduced by over a third from a 2000 estimate of 985,000, largely due to the widespread use of insecticide-treated nets and artemisinin-based combination therapies.[56]

Malaria is presently endemic in a broad band around the equator, in areas of the Americas, many parts of Asia, and much of Africa; in Sub-Saharan Africa, 85–90% of malaria fatalities occur.[101] An estimate for 2009 reported that countries with the highest death rate per 100,000 of population were Ivory Coast (86.15), Angola (56.93) and Burkina Faso (50.66).[102] A 2010 estimate indicated the deadliest countries per population were Burkina Faso, Mozambique and Mali.[99]


Actually, looks like Malaria is about the worst thing in Africa.


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Which doesn't diminish that it takes up a massive amount of health spending, hospital visits, and causes a great deal of physical and economic damage.
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Postby Timsvill » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:23 pm

I live in fort worth texas. If their's a big ebola out break in dallas, I'm getting the heck out of dodge!
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Postby Nerotysia » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:24 pm

Reformed SU wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:Is this...sarcasm, perhaps?

Nope.

Then I shall say the levels of stupidity in your post are quite infinite.

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:28 pm

Reformed SU wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:Is this...sarcasm, perhaps?

Nope.


Does dying a horrible painful death turn you on or something?
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Postby Alexanda » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:28 pm

Reformed SU wrote:Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

This disease has killed people. It has left in its wake grieving wives, children, husbands and parents. It isn't funny to joke about it, let alone be glad it exists.
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Postby Torisakia » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:32 pm

New Decius wrote:Stay Calm and Do Not Panic
Be careful of what you touch or step in
Stay Clean and do what you regularly would to prevent yourself getting sick from anything
Be rational and wise in what you do (Don't try and heal yourself, go directly to your Doctor and calmly request the proper tests be done and wait patiently for the results.)

I have never followed these guidelines a day in my life and haven't gotten any type of sick (besides the common cold, which I would've gotten anyway). What makes you think I'll catch it now?
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Postby Timsvill » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:36 pm

Reformed SU wrote:Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

So you're saying we should have prepared for EBOLA! Like we knew that ebola would kill us? I don't like how your saying that just because those of us who aren't scientist or doctors, should be prepared for this! Instead of enjoying our lives!
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Postby New Decius » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:36 pm

Torisakia wrote:
New Decius wrote:Stay Calm and Do Not Panic
Be careful of what you touch or step in
Stay Clean and do what you regularly would to prevent yourself getting sick from anything
Be rational and wise in what you do (Don't try and heal yourself, go directly to your Doctor and calmly request the proper tests be done and wait patiently for the results.)

I have never followed these guidelines a day in my life and haven't gotten any type of sick (besides the common cold, which I would've gotten anyway). What makes you think I'll catch it now?


Its just an everyday precaution that doctors advise on a Regular basis
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:37 pm

Torisakia wrote:
New Decius wrote:Stay Calm and Do Not Panic
Be careful of what you touch or step in
Stay Clean and do what you regularly would to prevent yourself getting sick from anything
Be rational and wise in what you do (Don't try and heal yourself, go directly to your Doctor and calmly request the proper tests be done and wait patiently for the results.)

I have never followed these guidelines a day in my life and haven't gotten any type of sick (besides the common cold, which I would've gotten anyway). What makes you think I'll catch it now?


You must stand on a lot of dog poo every time you go out.
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Postby Torisakia » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:38 pm

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Torisakia wrote:I have never followed these guidelines a day in my life and haven't gotten any type of sick (besides the common cold, which I would've gotten anyway). What makes you think I'll catch it now?


You must stand on a lot of dog poo every time you go out.

Actually, I do. Considering I live in an apartment complex and the mouthbreathers who live here don't clean up after their dogs, even though they're required to.
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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:45 pm

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:If you think the simple existence of Zmapp or the recertification of other drug treatments is going to fix the problem of a serious ebola outbreak, it's because you're a wilful optimist who is happy to gulp down whatever you're told by pharmaceutical companies, not because you're well-informed.

And there's your problem: there isn't going to be a serious Ebola outbreak in developed word because the conditions don't enable it to unlike in Africa if only because sewage doesn't trend to overflow into the streets in developed world. Plus advanced healthcare enabling early detection, sufficient isolation wards and widespread education causing people to stay away when told to do so means most we will see in the developed world is few patches of outbreak in isolated, probably remote locations which are not conductive to spread.
This does not mean you are not going to die if you catch Ebola in the developed world (although your last days will be more comfortable) but that you aren't going to spread it to as many people as you would if you were in Africa.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:13 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:

Which doesn't diminish that it takes up a massive amount of health spending, hospital visits, and causes a great deal of physical and economic damage.


Yet it is decreasing proving the fact that Malaria can be fought even when the WHO stated that they were underfunded,

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:14 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Which doesn't diminish that it takes up a massive amount of health spending, hospital visits, and causes a great deal of physical and economic damage.


Yet it is decreasing proving the fact that Malaria can be fought even when the WHO stated that they were underfunded,

Yes, but that wasn't the point; the point is that Malaria consumes a massive amount of resources.
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Postby Setgavarius » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:17 pm

Reformed SU wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:Is this...sarcasm, perhaps?

Nope.

You are a Nutter.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:21 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
Yet it is decreasing proving the fact that Malaria can be fought even when the WHO stated that they were underfunded,

Yes, but that wasn't the point; the point is that Malaria consumes a massive amount of resources.


Yes that is true but look at this. Malaria can still be contained with funding. After all, Africa has the fastest growing pharmaceutical industry in the world.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:24 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Yes, but that wasn't the point; the point is that Malaria consumes a massive amount of resources.


Yes that is true but look at this. Malaria can still be contained with funding. After all, Africa has the fastest growing pharmaceutical industry in the world.

But the problem is that it hinders the containing of other things.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:26 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
Yes that is true but look at this. Malaria can still be contained with funding. After all, Africa has the fastest growing pharmaceutical industry in the world.

But the problem is that it hinders the containing of other things.

A proper strategy plan can be used to contain Malaria and the diseases with more funding

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:29 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Yes, but that wasn't the point; the point is that Malaria consumes a massive amount of resources.


Yes that is true but look at this. Malaria can still be contained with funding. After all, Africa has the fastest growing pharmaceutical industry in the world.

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Postby Distruzio » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:30 pm

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Indeed. I fear shark attacks more than I do Ebola and sharks can't even reach me.

But what if the sharks mutate and become airborne?


Sharknado was a documentary, you know.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:31 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:But the problem is that it hinders the containing of other things.

A proper strategy plan can be used to contain Malaria and the diseases with more funding

Then why worry more about Ebola than Malaria? The same applies to it.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:33 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:A proper strategy plan can be used to contain Malaria and the diseases with more funding

Then why worry more about Ebola than Malaria? The same applies to it.


I never stated that one should be more important than another. A strategy can be developed for both but Ebola should receive a high priority because it just went really wild.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:34 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Then why worry more about Ebola than Malaria? The same applies to it.


I never stated that one should be more important than another. A strategy can be developed for both but Ebola should receive a high priority because it just went really wild.

"Really wild" in this case means "affected under 10,000 people".
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Postby United States Kingdom » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:35 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:
I never stated that one should be more important than another. A strategy can be developed for both but Ebola should receive a high priority because it just went really wild.

"Really wild" in this case means "affected under 10,000 people".

Yet it doesn't have a vaccine and it Ebola reaching the USA could mean it could reach other countries with advanced healthcare systems as well. I am a Malaria survivor and I still support more resources going to Ebola than Malaria

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