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[Scomagia]

Do you have a source to prove they had the problem under control before the US got involved? "Deal with it on their own" does not just mean responding in any way. It means actually getting the problem under control, which the AU has not done, and that is why Western countries are making their own efforts to help.

Countering a question with a question doesn't help a debate? Truth is, I don't have a source because the Ebola outbreak just in December. You know why their is so much Anti-Americanism, its because you enter other countries affairs and while this is an international affair, it should be handled by the UN, the WHO, and the African Union, not USA trying to go there and start playing hero when their are international obligations that follow.

You make it sound like we're illegally occupying. We have been invited. Our assistance is welcome, as are our troops.

[United States Kingdom]

Yet your retired generals oppose the sending of USA troops to Africa. Never said we didn't want your help but we don't need any foreign troops in our land. When did I state that I didn't want aid workers in Africa? My whole argument has been about no sending troops.

The retired generals are irrelevant. The soldiers are necessary to protect our aid workers and supplies. Again, show some gratitude. We don't have to be there and we are getting nothing out of it.

Oh trust me, I have more gratitude than you think. It is because of the USA that I am alive because they helped the AU distribute medicine for Malaria which I once had and they fight terrorism which my family has been a victim towards and the retired generals ain't irrelevant.You wanna know why/ If they were strategic enough to be prmoted to the rank of General(I think it was Lieutenant General and Major General, not sure), then their opinion matters and after all, the AU can protect them because I am sure some of those aid workers you speak of volunteered did they not? Also, Nigeria has proven to contain the eperdemic and despite it having oil money to finance it, it also has a large population meaning it may be harder for it to contain the eperdemic so some elements of the Nigerian plan should be used in helping create a strategy to contain Ebola in the respective countries while creating a health org related to the AU that can help contain the virus. Just like the way the AU created the African Monetary Fund, they can create an org to help with healthcare.

[United States Kingdom]

Countering a question with a question doesn't help a debate? Truth is, I don't have a source because the Ebola outbreak just in December. You know why their is so much Anti-Americanism, its because you enter other countries affairs and while this is an international affair, it should be handled by the UN, the WHO, and the African Union, not USA trying to go there and start playing hero when their are international obligations that follow.

You make it sound like we're illegally occupying. We have been invited. Our assistance is welcome, as are our troops.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... itary.html

[The Red Star Union]

My main concern is that malaria season is coming in West Africa. And all the hospital beds will be packed with ebola cases. Ebola is demolishing the healthcare system and allowing other diseases to gain a foothold.

[United States Kingdom]

My main concern is that malaria season is coming in West Africa. And all the hospital beds will be packed with ebola cases. Ebola is demolishing the healthcare system and allowing other diseases to gain a foothold.

Malaria can be contained. Their is already medicine to kill the disease.

[Reformed SU]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

[The Red Star Union]

My main concern is that malaria season is coming in West Africa. And all the hospital beds will be packed with ebola cases. Ebola is demolishing the healthcare system and allowing other diseases to gain a foothold.

Malaria can be contained. Their is already medicine to kill the disease.

But in a poor place like west africa? It will be nearly impossible considiring how Ebola is destroying logistics.

[United States Kingdom]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

[Reformed SU]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

Praise the Creator for this wonderful disease!

[Torisakia]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

Finally, another defeatist on NSG.

[United States Kingdom]

Malaria can be contained. Their is already medicine to kill the disease.

But in a poor place like west africa? It will be nearly impossible considiring how Ebola is destroying logistics.

Once again, the AU and other aid agencies can help fight Malaria. Also, Garcinia Kola is a promising treatment that can be used to find a cure and it is in West Africa.

[United Marxist Nations]

My main concern is that malaria season is coming in West Africa. And all the hospital beds will be packed with ebola cases. Ebola is demolishing the healthcare system and allowing other diseases to gain a foothold.

Malaria can be contained. Their is already medicine to kill the disease.

The economic impact includes costs of health care, working days lost due to sickness, days lost in education, decreased productivity due to brain damage from cerebral malaria, and loss of investment and tourism.[7] The disease has a heavy burden in some countries, where it may be responsible for 30–50% of hospital admissions, up to 50% of outpatient visits, and up to 40% of public health spending.[140]

That's gonna be pretty hard on treating Ebola.

The WHO estimates that in 2010 there were 219 million cases of malaria resulting in 660,000 deaths.[3][97] Others have estimated the number of cases at between 350 and 550 million for falciparum malaria[98] and deaths in 2010 at 1.24 million[99] up from 1.0 million deaths in 1990.[100] The majority of cases (65%) occur in children under 15 years old.[99] About 125 million pregnant women are at risk of infection each year; in Sub-Saharan Africa, maternal malaria is associated with up to 200,000 estimated infant deaths yearly.[15] There are about 10,000 malaria cases per year in Western Europe, and 1300–1500 in the United States.[12] About 900 people died from the disease in Europe between 1993 and 2003.[51] Both the global incidence of disease and resulting mortality have declined in recent years. According to the WHO, deaths attributable to malaria in 2010 were reduced by over a third from a 2000 estimate of 985,000, largely due to the widespread use of insecticide-treated nets and artemisinin-based combination therapies.[56]

Malaria is presently endemic in a broad band around the equator, in areas of the Americas, many parts of Asia, and much of Africa; in Sub-Saharan Africa, 85–90% of malaria fatalities occur.[101] An estimate for 2009 reported that countries with the highest death rate per 100,000 of population were Ivory Coast (86.15), Angola (56.93) and Burkina Faso (50.66).[102] A 2010 estimate indicated the deadliest countries per population were Burkina Faso, Mozambique and Mali.[99]

Actually, looks like Malaria is about the worst thing in Africa.

[Geilinor]

The retired generals are irrelevant. The soldiers are necessary to protect our aid workers and supplies. Again, show some gratitude. We don't have to be there and we are getting nothing out of it.

Just like the way the AU created the African Monetary Fund, they can create an org to help with healthcare.

There's the WHO, but it doesn't have soldiers.

[Nerotysia]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

Is this...sarcasm, perhaps?

[United Marxist Nations]

But in a poor place like west africa? It will be nearly impossible considiring how Ebola is destroying logistics.

Once again, the AU and other aid agencies can help fight Malaria. Also, Garcinia Kola is a promising treatment that can be used to find a cure and it is in West Africa.

Malaria is such a big problem in Africa that many economists think it's the reason Africa is so poor, and, as has been said: how big do you think the African Union is? It is too weak to do most of these things.

[Sun Wukong]

My main concern is that malaria season is coming in West Africa. And all the hospital beds will be packed with ebola cases. Ebola is demolishing the healthcare system and allowing other diseases to gain a foothold.

Malaria can be contained. Their is already medicine to kill the disease.

And malaria is becoming increasingly resistant to those medicines. Of the two, malaria is by far the greater threat to humanity. It's probably the pathogen that has killed the single most humans throughout history, being so deadly that humans have evolved specifically to survive it.

Ebola, by contrast, is a bat disease that has managed to jump into humans, and has not yet adapted itself all that well to human physiology.

[United States Kingdom]

Malaria can be contained. Their is already medicine to kill the disease.

The economic impact includes costs of health care, working days lost due to sickness, days lost in education, decreased productivity due to brain damage from cerebral malaria, and loss of investment and tourism.[7] The disease has a heavy burden in some countries, where it may be responsible for 30–50% of hospital admissions, up to 50% of outpatient visits, and up to 40% of public health spending.[140]

That's gonna be pretty hard on treating Ebola.

The WHO estimates that in 2010 there were 219 million cases of malaria resulting in 660,000 deaths.[3][97] Others have estimated the number of cases at between 350 and 550 million for falciparum malaria[98] and deaths in 2010 at 1.24 million[99] up from 1.0 million deaths in 1990.[100] The majority of cases (65%) occur in children under 15 years old.[99] About 125 million pregnant women are at risk of infection each year; in Sub-Saharan Africa, maternal malaria is associated with up to 200,000 estimated infant deaths yearly.[15] There are about 10,000 malaria cases per year in Western Europe, and 1300–1500 in the United States.[12] About 900 people died from the disease in Europe between 1993 and 2003.[51] Both the global incidence of disease and resulting mortality have declined in recent years. According to the WHO, deaths attributable to malaria in 2010 were reduced by over a third from a 2000 estimate of 985,000, largely due to the widespread use of insecticide-treated nets and artemisinin-based combination therapies.[56]

Malaria is presently endemic in a broad band around the equator, in areas of the Americas, many parts of Asia, and much of Africa; in Sub-Saharan Africa, 85–90% of malaria fatalities occur.[101] An estimate for 2009 reported that countries with the highest death rate per 100,000 of population were Ivory Coast (86.15), Angola (56.93) and Burkina Faso (50.66).[102] A 2010 estimate indicated the deadliest countries per population were Burkina Faso, Mozambique and Mali.[99]


Actually, looks like Malaria is about the worst thing in Africa.

http://healthland.time.com/2013/12/11/w ... s-funding/

[Nerotysia]

And yes, one "fuck-up" in Spain is indicative of a widespread failure of western medicine. Nice logic. Notice how despite more than three confirmed cases of westerners having the disease, the governments of the US and Europe aren't falling into disarray.

The governments of Western Africa didn't fall into disarray after more than three (literally 4+!) cases either.

The governments of Western Africa are still more or less in the same order they were before, and they're dealing with a serious outbreak that is actually a threat to thousands of people at this moment in time, instead of mostly just being an interesting but mostly intellectual problem as it is in the rest of the world.

Forgive the slight hyperbole on my part, but they are certainly in bad shape.

And in case you'd forgotten, at some point there were only three Ebola cases in Western Africa. It has since ballooned to unheard-of numbers, something that is not happening in the West.

[Wisconsin9]

You make it sound like we're illegally occupying. We have been invited. Our assistance is welcome, as are our troops.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... itary.html

A reluctant welcome is still a welcome.

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

wow much edge

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

What on Earth is wrong with you?

[Scomagia]

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

So hip and edgy.

[United States Kingdom]

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... itary.html

A reluctant welcome is still a welcome.

Finally, something to shorten humanity's ego. We've rolled around in victories of war, economy boomings, and freedom rights for far too long.Humanity is supposed to know, as a group, that they will die sooner or later. Instead of caring about what is out there and trying to prevent it, we are wasting life playing games, getting fat stacks of cash, and other sorts of time wasting. Now since it is the end, Go crazy!
Whoever has the cure, dispose of it.

wow much edge

Weren't their people who weren't optimistic about USA help.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Do you have a source to prove they had the problem under control before the US got involved? "Deal with it on their own" does not just mean responding in any way. It means actually getting the problem under control, which the AU has not done, and that is why Western countries are making their own efforts to help.

Countering a question with a question doesn't help a debate? Truth is, I don't have a source because the Ebola outbreak just in December. You know why their is so much Anti-Americanism, its because you enter other countries affairs and while this is an international affair, it should be handled by the UN, the WHO, and the African Union, not USA trying to go there and start playing hero when their are international obligations that follow.

Has the Liberian government said not to send troops? I don't see how we are violating their sovereignty or whatever if their government is OK with the troops being there.

[Wisconsin9]

A reluctant welcome is still a welcome.


wow much edge

Weren't their people who weren't optimistic about USA help.

I very much doubt that there's anything that everyone will say is good.

[United States Kingdom]

Countering a question with a question doesn't help a debate? Truth is, I don't have a source because the Ebola outbreak just in December. You know why their is so much Anti-Americanism, its because you enter other countries affairs and while this is an international affair, it should be handled by the UN, the WHO, and the African Union, not USA trying to go there and start playing hero when their are international obligations that follow.

Has the Liberian government said not to send troops? I don't see how we are violating their sovereignty or whatever if their government is OK with the troops being there.

Well from what I hear, Liberians have welcomed the sending of USA troops to Algeria according to some interviews your newspapers did.