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What Type of Jew are You?

Orthodox
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8%
Modern Orthodox
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Conservative
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15%
Reform
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19%
Irreligious
108
36%
Other
45
15%
Karaite
10
3%
Reconstructionist
6
2%
 
Total votes : 301

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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:07 pm

Merien wrote:can you not harass these people. - a muslim who also is jewish.


Just three posts above this one:

The Archregimancy wrote:Please don't reply to obvious trolling.


Can we please stop quoting Philistea's post. Thank you.

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United Sumeru
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New York Times Democracy

Postby United Sumeru » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:05 pm

I hope everyone had an awesome Purim!

I sure did. I was blasting the Daniel Saadon/DJ Yossi Maimon Purim Collaboration Mix while cooking up Falafel and even baking my own Hamantaschen.

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Ineva
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Postby Ineva » Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:10 pm

United Sumeru wrote:I hope everyone had an awesome Purim!

I sure did. I was blasting the Daniel Saadon/DJ Yossi Maimon Purim Collaboration Mix while cooking up Falafel and even baking my own Hamantaschen.

Likewise!

We went to a small, local festival/parade to celebrate. No falafel, but plenty of hamantashen to go around.
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Unogonduria
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Unogonduria » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:09 am

La Xinga wrote:
Unogonduria wrote:Sure, sir.
Genesis 18:17-19, Genesis 22:15-17, Judges 2:1-2, Judges 6:11-12.

I believe the first place you quoted may have been a mistake, because I could not find the term there.
As for the other places, he is speaking in His name, not his own. The last example becomes particularly messy if interpreted as speaking for himself.

1. I'm going to bold and underline what I am talking about:
"Then the Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him."
2. Then why did the LORD say that "the LORD declares" in Genesis 22:15-17?
3. In Judges 2:1-2, the Angel of the LORD is saying, that He brought them [the Jews] out of Egypt, so He is clearly saying He is the LORD [in there].
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:47 am

Unogonduria wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I believe the first place you quoted may have been a mistake, because I could not find the term there.
As for the other places, he is speaking in His name, not his own. The last example becomes particularly messy if interpreted as speaking for himself.

1. I'm going to bold and underline what I am talking about:
"Then the Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him."
2. Then why did the LORD say that "the LORD declares" in Genesis 22:15-17?
3. In Judges 2:1-2, the Angel of the LORD is saying, that He brought them [the Jews] out of Egypt, so He is clearly saying He is the LORD [in there].

1 & 2. God is reffering to his authority.
3. He is third person, not first person
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:55 am

Unogonduria wrote:
La Xinga wrote:I believe the first place you quoted may have been a mistake, because I could not find the term there.
As for the other places, he is speaking in His name, not his own. The last example becomes particularly messy if interpreted as speaking for himself.

1. I'm going to bold and underline what I am talking about:
"Then the Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and all nations on earth will be blessed through him. For I have chosen him, so that he will direct his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing what is right and just, so that the Lord will bring about for Abraham what he has promised him."

Yes, here he is speaking directly, I think I'm still misunderstanding you.
2. Then why did the LORD say that "the LORD declares" in Genesis 22:15-17?

...He did not, I believe? The angel is saying "I [the angel] swear that God declares... ".
3. In Judges 2:1-2, the Angel of the LORD is saying, that He brought them [the Jews] out of Egypt, so He is clearly saying He is the LORD [in there].

He is speaking in the name of God, like Ethel said. Thus, he is called a "מלאך - messenger" (which usually refers to an angel). It's not like He is His own messenger. I would think it's demeaning to call Him a "messenger"; thus, it's referring to a prophet or angel.
United Sumeru wrote:I hope everyone had an awesome Purim!

I sure did. I was blasting the Daniel Saadon/DJ Yossi Maimon Purim Collaboration Mix while cooking up Falafel and even baking my own Hamantaschen.

Mine was great but very busy. I wanted to wake up early like one's supposed to, but alas, that did not happen. :(

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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:52 pm

Maybe the Europeans can answer for this dude, who not only claims that Purim is in late April, but also claims it lasts for eight days, which would be rather hard on the liver.

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Risottia
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Postby Risottia » Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:00 pm

La Xinga wrote:Maybe the Europeans can answer for this dude, who not only claims that Purim is in late April, but also claims it lasts for eight days, which would be rather hard on the liver.

Nah, we don't answer for the Brexiteds anymore.
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Kerwa
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Kerwa » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:14 pm

La Xinga wrote:Maybe the Europeans can answer for this dude, who not only claims that Purim is in late April, but also claims it lasts for eight days, which would be rather hard on the liver.


Britbong here, I can explain. Nick Griffin is the product of the finest education the UK has to offer (this is undeniably true) so this sort of confusion is to be expected. I’m actually surprised he’s even heard of Purim.

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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:38 pm

Forgot to add that Haman wasn't even a king. Nor was he ethnically Persian. And Israel just hit Iran. That's around six things terribly wrong within three sentences. I don't know how this couldn't have been intentional.
Risottia wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Maybe the Europeans can answer for this dude, who not only claims that Purim is in late April, but also claims it lasts for eight days, which would be rather hard on the liver.

Nah, we don't answer for the Brexiteds anymore.

Kerwa wrote:
La Xinga wrote:Maybe the Europeans can answer for this dude, who not only claims that Purim is in late April, but also claims it lasts for eight days, which would be rather hard on the liver.


Britbong here, I can explain. Nick Griffin is the product of the finest education the UK has to offer (this is undeniably true) so this sort of confusion is to be expected. I’m actually surprised he’s even heard of Purim.

Alrighty, thanks to both of you!

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The Archregimancy
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:41 am

I know I'm a day early, but will travelling for a week from tomorrow - so here's anticipating and hoping for a peaceful Passover for all our Jewish posters.

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Ineva
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Ineva » Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:40 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I know I'm a day early, but will travelling for a week from tomorrow - so here's anticipating and hoping for a peaceful Passover for all our Jewish posters.

Many thanks, Arch. Safe travels!
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:30 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I know I'm a day early, but will travelling for a week from tomorrow - so here's anticipating and hoping for a peaceful Passover for all our Jewish posters.

Thank you and safe travels.

I do not know what had overcome Mrs. Mermania. There will be matzoh ball soup and brisket tomorrow
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Glorious Freedonia
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Glorious Freedonia » Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:55 pm

Happy Passover!

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Narland
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Anarchy

Postby Narland » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:21 pm

Have a happy Passover.

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Merien
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Merien » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:00 pm

Happy passover! I don't really associate alot with it now but my Jewish family does. Peace and blessings be upon you!
Merien!!!

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Ineva
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Postby Ineva » Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:20 pm

Many thanks! Hag Sameah!
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Postby Scandoslavkostia » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:19 pm

Am I a Jew in your eyes? Being a Messianic.
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Ineva
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Postby Ineva » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:23 pm

Scandoslavkostia wrote:Am I a Jew in your eyes? Being a Messianic.

Personally, I consider Messianic Judaism to be rather synonymous with Christianity. But, I do respect the maintenance of some customarily Jewish traditions.

Of course, you very well could be Messianic and ethnically Jewish for all I know, which means you would be a(n ethnic) Jew regardless of your faith.
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Postby Neo-Hermitius » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:48 am

I had this dude sit next to me ask a question about Jewish people and I couldn't answer it. It was "why don't Jews believe Jesus is the messiah"
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:58 am

Neo-Hermitius wrote:I had this dude sit next to me ask a question about Jewish people and I couldn't answer it. It was "why don't Jews believe Jesus is the messiah"

Because he is not the Messiah, he is a very naughty boy.
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Postby Neo-Hermitius » Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:30 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Neo-Hermitius wrote:I had this dude sit next to me ask a question about Jewish people and I couldn't answer it. It was "why don't Jews believe Jesus is the messiah"

Because he is not the Messiah, he is a very naughty boy.

Understandable have a great day
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:04 am

Neo-Hermitius wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Because he is not the Messiah, he is a very naughty boy.

Understandable have a great day

Aside from the fact that the Jewish messiah is human and not a god.
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Welskerland » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:34 pm

Ineva wrote:
Scandoslavkostia wrote:Am I a Jew in your eyes? Being a Messianic.

Personally, I consider Messianic Judaism to be rather synonymous with Christianity. But, I do respect the maintenance of some customarily Jewish traditions.

Of course, you very well could be Messianic and ethnically Jewish for all I know, which means you would be a(n ethnic) Jew regardless of your faith.


While I am neither Jewish nor Messianic, I always thought the Messianics got too much flack. I can completely understand a Jewish person wanting to convert to Christianity while still maintaining their culture and heritage.
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Ethel mermania
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 24, 2024 3:44 pm

Welskerland wrote:
Ineva wrote:Personally, I consider Messianic Judaism to be rather synonymous with Christianity. But, I do respect the maintenance of some customarily Jewish traditions.

Of course, you very well could be Messianic and ethnically Jewish for all I know, which means you would be a(n ethnic) Jew regardless of your faith.


While I am neither Jewish nor Messianic, I always thought the Messianics got too much flack. I can completely understand a Jewish person wanting to convert to Christianity while still maintaining their culture and heritage.

Believing in christ kinda says Christian in pretty large letters. Folks can still have matzohball soup and eat brisket on passover without being jewish.
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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