No, I'm asking this specific individual, a noted "America Firster" how they reconcile that with their fanatic support for a foreign country.
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by Bear Stearns » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:47 pm

by Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:47 pm

by Prydania » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:48 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is Israel not a Jewish state?
Prydania wrote:Also this thread is generally about Jewish culture and religion, and has generally been free of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict discussion. There's a dedicated thread for that. Dragging that debate in here is, at best, in poor taste.

by Rojava Free State » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:49 pm
Prydania wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Is Israel not a Jewish state?Prydania wrote:Also this thread is generally about Jewish culture and religion, and has generally been free of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict discussion. There's a dedicated thread for that. Dragging that debate in here is, at best, in poor taste.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Thermodolia » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:52 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Prydania wrote:Going "that's not an answer" is an implicit restatement of the question.
Well the paranoid are rarely careful with their accusations.
It isn't paranoid to wonder if someone who die hard stands behind a nation that stole our nuclear secrets is more loyal to that nation or ours.

by Fahran » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:54 pm
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star

by Ethel mermania » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:47 am
Fahran wrote:We've had discussions of Israel here in the past, though there's good reason to attempt to minimize such discussions. We want to employ this space to discuss Jewish culture, religion, and identity in a positive and uplifting way as much as possible. To answer the question, my loyalty resides with my homeland. Nonetheless, one can be a good American and a Zionist. And, if forced to choose my homeland's government over my people when my homeland's government is in the wrong, I'd make aliyah with boundless sadness in my heart.

by Fahran » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:28 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Fahran wrote:We've had discussions of Israel here in the past, though there's good reason to attempt to minimize such discussions. We want to employ this space to discuss Jewish culture, religion, and identity in a positive and uplifting way as much as possible. To answer the question, my loyalty resides with my homeland. Nonetheless, one can be a good American and a Zionist. And, if forced to choose my homeland's government over my people when my homeland's government is in the wrong, I'd make aliyah with boundless sadness in my heart.
Generally though when we talk about isreal, it is within the religious tradition as the promised land, or the land of milk and honey. Or once in a while the religious issues of the western wall, We really dont talk about the current geopolitical reality that is the modern state of isreal.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star

by Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:26 pm
The Blaatschapen wrote:Why did Noah, who was very devout, take two pigs on board of the ark?

by Hanafuridake » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:29 pm

Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.

by Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:31 pm
Hanafuridake wrote:There's a reform synagogue close to where I live. I'm going to see about attending a service hopefully.

by Hanafuridake » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:34 pm
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.

by Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:38 pm
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by Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:52 pm

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by Ethel mermania » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:57 pm
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by Hanafuridake » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:08 pm
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.

by Ethel mermania » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:13 pm
Hanafuridake wrote:
I only really experienced Judaism through the Christianized Old Testament (which is not a very good way to experience a whole other religion) so I would like to attend one to see real actual Judaism in person without being filtered through by an entirely different faith. It's never been a burning fervor, but it has been in the back of my mind for a long time.

by Fahran » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:The reform are kinda new agee.. the plus side is a lot of english.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star

by Fahran » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:31 pm
Menassa wrote:Very. Busy.
Since my grandmother passed away at the ripe age of 97 I've been settling her affairs in Montana and as it turns out, there are some Jews here who need help.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."
- Song of the Fallen Star
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