NATION

PASSWORD

Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

What Type of Jew are You?

Orthodox
22
8%
Modern Orthodox
5
2%
Conservative
40
15%
Reform
49
18%
Irreligious
104
38%
Other
38
14%
Karaite
9
3%
Reconstructionist
5
2%
 
Total votes : 272

User avatar
Bear Stearns
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11536
Founded: Dec 02, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Bear Stearns » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:47 pm

Prydania wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
If you had to pick one, America or Israel, who would it be?

It's always anti-Semites who attempt to claim Jews aren't loyal to their home countries.


No, I'm asking this specific individual, a noted "America Firster" how they reconcile that with their fanatic support for a foreign country.
The Bear Stearns Companies, Inc. is a New York-based global investment bank, securities trading and brokerage firm. Its main business areas are capital markets, investment banking, wealth management and global clearing services. Bear Stearns was founded as an equity trading house on May Day 1923 by Joseph Ainslie Bear, Robert B. Stearns and Harold C. Mayer with $500,000 in capital.
383 Madison Ave,
New York, NY 10017
Vince Vaughn

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 126507
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Libertarian Police State

Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:47 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Prydania wrote:Going "that's not an answer" is an implicit restatement of the question.


Well the paranoid are rarely careful with their accusations.


You are paranoid for assuming anti-semitism. I am aware that Miami Shores is a Catholic.


If you question was solely directed at miami shores, it really does not belong in this thread.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Prydania
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1267
Founded: Nov 08, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Prydania » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:48 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Is Israel not a Jewish state?


Prydania wrote:Also this thread is generally about Jewish culture and religion, and has generally been free of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict discussion. There's a dedicated thread for that. Dragging that debate in here is, at best, in poor taste.
Pro Things You Hate
Anti Things You Like

User avatar
Rojava Free State
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19428
Founded: Feb 06, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:49 pm

Prydania wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is Israel not a Jewish state?


Prydania wrote:Also this thread is generally about Jewish culture and religion, and has generally been free of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict discussion. There's a dedicated thread for that. Dragging that debate in here is, at best, in poor taste.


K fam
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

User avatar
Thermodolia
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 76268
Founded: Oct 07, 2011
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:52 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Prydania wrote:Going "that's not an answer" is an implicit restatement of the question.


Well the paranoid are rarely careful with their accusations.


It isn't paranoid to wonder if someone who die hard stands behind a nation that stole our nuclear secrets is more loyal to that nation or ours.

First off Israel didn’t steal any nuclear secrets. The French helped them obtain nuclear weapons. So if you want to blame anyone go blame the bloody French.

Second this isn’t a place for the discussion of Israel. This is a purely religious thread
Male, State Socialist, Cultural Nationalist, Welfare Chauvinist lives somewhere in AZ I'm GAY! Disabled US Military Veteran
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19437
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:54 pm

We've had discussions of Israel here in the past, though there's good reason to attempt to minimize such discussions. We want to employ this space to discuss Jewish culture, religion, and identity in a positive and uplifting way as much as possible. To answer the question, my loyalty resides with my homeland. Nonetheless, one can be a good American and a Zionist. And, if forced to choose my homeland's government over my people when my homeland's government is in the wrong, I'd make aliyah with boundless sadness in my heart.
Last edited by Fahran on Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 126507
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Libertarian Police State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:47 am

Fahran wrote:We've had discussions of Israel here in the past, though there's good reason to attempt to minimize such discussions. We want to employ this space to discuss Jewish culture, religion, and identity in a positive and uplifting way as much as possible. To answer the question, my loyalty resides with my homeland. Nonetheless, one can be a good American and a Zionist. And, if forced to choose my homeland's government over my people when my homeland's government is in the wrong, I'd make aliyah with boundless sadness in my heart.

Generally though when we talk about isreal, it is within the religious tradition as the promised land, or the land of milk and honey. Or once in a while the religious issues of the western wall, We really dont talk about the current geopolitical reality that is the modern state of isreal.
Last edited by Ethel mermania on Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19437
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:28 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Fahran wrote:We've had discussions of Israel here in the past, though there's good reason to attempt to minimize such discussions. We want to employ this space to discuss Jewish culture, religion, and identity in a positive and uplifting way as much as possible. To answer the question, my loyalty resides with my homeland. Nonetheless, one can be a good American and a Zionist. And, if forced to choose my homeland's government over my people when my homeland's government is in the wrong, I'd make aliyah with boundless sadness in my heart.

Generally though when we talk about isreal, it is within the religious tradition as the promised land, or the land of milk and honey. Or once in a while the religious issues of the western wall, We really dont talk about the current geopolitical reality that is the modern state of isreal.

True.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:26 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Why did Noah, who was very devout, take two pigs on board of the ark? :p

If he didn't, what would Jews not be able to eat?
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

User avatar
Hanafuridake
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5532
Founded: Sep 09, 2018
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:29 pm

There's a reform synagogue close to where I live. I'm going to see about attending a service hopefully.
Menassa wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Why did Noah, who was very devout, take two pigs on board of the ark? :p

If he didn't, what would Jews not be able to eat?


Shellfish. :p
Nation name in proper language: 花降岳|पुष्पद्वीप
Theravada Buddhist
李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password

User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:31 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:There's a reform synagogue close to where I live. I'm going to see about attending a service hopefully.

Are you Jewish?
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

User avatar
Hanafuridake
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5532
Founded: Sep 09, 2018
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:34 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:There's a reform synagogue close to where I live. I'm going to see about attending a service hopefully.

Are you Jewish?


No. Would that be a problem?
Nation name in proper language: 花降岳|पुष्पद्वीप
Theravada Buddhist
李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password

User avatar
Jolthig
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16317
Founded: Aug 31, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:35 pm

Hey, Menassa! Welcome back! :D
Devoted Ahmadi Muslim • theistic evolutionist • Star Wars fan • Discord ID: Jolthig#9602
Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:38 pm

Jolthig wrote:Hey, Menassa! Welcome back! :D

Thanks!

Hanafuridake wrote:
Menassa wrote:Are you Jewish?


No. Would that be a problem?

Shouldn't be,

Why the interest?
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

User avatar
Jolthig
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16317
Founded: Aug 31, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:46 pm

Menassa wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Hey, Menassa! Welcome back! :D

Thanks!

Hanafuridake wrote:
No. Would that be a problem?

Shouldn't be,

Why the interest?

How you doing? What's new?

I'm just working, reading, and just chilling.
Devoted Ahmadi Muslim • theistic evolutionist • Star Wars fan • Discord ID: Jolthig#9602
Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:48 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Menassa wrote:Thanks!


Shouldn't be,

Why the interest?

How you doing? What's new?

I'm just working, reading, and just chilling.

Very. Busy.

Since my grandmother passed away at the ripe age of 97 I've been settling her affairs in Montana and as it turns out, there are some Jews here who need help.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

User avatar
Jolthig
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16317
Founded: Aug 31, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:49 pm

Menassa wrote:
Jolthig wrote:How you doing? What's new?

I'm just working, reading, and just chilling.

Very. Busy.

Since my grandmother passed away at the ripe age of 97 I've been settling her affairs in Montana and as it turns out, there are some Jews here who need help.

I see.

Hope they are doing well nevertheless.
Devoted Ahmadi Muslim • theistic evolutionist • Star Wars fan • Discord ID: Jolthig#9602
Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

User avatar
Menassa
Post Czar
 
Posts: 33837
Founded: Aug 11, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Menassa » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:52 pm

Jolthig wrote:
Menassa wrote:Very. Busy.

Since my grandmother passed away at the ripe age of 97 I've been settling her affairs in Montana and as it turns out, there are some Jews here who need help.

I see.

Hope they are doing well nevertheless.

Oh yeah they don't need like physical help. Just some religious guidance.
Radical Monotheist
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 126507
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Libertarian Police State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:56 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Why did Noah, who was very devout, take two pigs on board of the ark? :p

If he didn't, what would Jews not be able to eat?

:clap:


l'shana tova.

How are you?
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 126507
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Libertarian Police State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:57 pm

Menassa wrote:
Jolthig wrote:How you doing? What's new?

I'm just working, reading, and just chilling.

Very. Busy.

Since my grandmother passed away at the ripe age of 97 I've been settling her affairs in Montana and as it turns out, there are some Jews here who need help.

Outreach? Set up a Chabad house.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Jolthig
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16317
Founded: Aug 31, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Jolthig » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:00 pm

Menassa wrote:
Jolthig wrote:I see.

Hope they are doing well nevertheless.

Oh yeah they don't need like physical help. Just some religious guidance.

Sure. I'm a secretary for the guidance of the local converts at my mosque so I too do guidance. Hope it goes well!
Devoted Ahmadi Muslim • theistic evolutionist • Star Wars fan • Discord ID: Jolthig#9602
Grenartia wrote:Then we Marshall Plan it.

Kowani wrote:
Jolthig wrote:Lol why

“Und Mirza”

:lol2:

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Isn't that what NSG is for though to a degree?

YOU’RE WRONG.

Allow me to explain using several fallacies, veiled insults, and insinuations that you’re ugly and dumb.

User avatar
Hanafuridake
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5532
Founded: Sep 09, 2018
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:08 pm

Menassa wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
No. Would that be a problem?

Shouldn't be,

Why the interest?


I only really experienced Judaism through the Christianized Old Testament (which is not a very good way to experience a whole other religion) so I would like to attend one to see real actual Judaism in person without being filtered through by an entirely different faith. It's never been a burning fervor, but it has been in the back of my mind for a long time.
Nation name in proper language: 花降岳|पुष्पद्वीप
Theravada Buddhist
李贽 wrote:There is nothing difficult about becoming a sage, and nothing false about transcending the world of appearances.
Suriyanakhon's alt, finally found my old account's password

User avatar
Ethel mermania
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 126507
Founded: Aug 20, 2010
Libertarian Police State

Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:13 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:
Menassa wrote:Shouldn't be,

Why the interest?


I only really experienced Judaism through the Christianized Old Testament (which is not a very good way to experience a whole other religion) so I would like to attend one to see real actual Judaism in person without being filtered through by an entirely different faith. It's never been a burning fervor, but it has been in the back of my mind for a long time.

The reform are kinda new agee.. the plus side is a lot of english.
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 



http://www.salientpartners.com/epsilont ... ilizations

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19437
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:28 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:The reform are kinda new agee.. the plus side is a lot of english.

Reform would probably be easier to follow, but, again, it really depends on your purpose.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

User avatar
Fahran
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 19437
Founded: Nov 13, 2017
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:31 pm

Menassa wrote:Very. Busy.

Since my grandmother passed away at the ripe age of 97 I've been settling her affairs in Montana and as it turns out, there are some Jews here who need help.

My condolences for your loss, Men.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Dakran, Dimetrodon Empire, El Lazaro, Elejamie, Ostroeuropa, Paddy O Fernature, The Pirateariat, Violetist Britannia, Washington Resistance Army

Advertisement

Remove ads