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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:36 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
La xinga wrote:Is it too late to continue posting on this thread?

If it isn't, I guess threads die when fast days come!

On a thread like this the gravedig rule isnt really enforced. We jews come and go.....


Much like a jewish humorist who just passed away

Carl reiner. RIP

Well, I hope you have an easy fast next week!
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:59 pm

Good Shabbos to all of NSG!
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:00 pm

La xinga wrote:Good Shabbos to all of NSG!

Good shabbos la xinga
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:35 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
La xinga wrote:Good Shabbos to all of NSG!

Good shabbos la xinga

That was a good Shabbos!
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-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:31 pm

I wish everybody a easy and meaningful fast!
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:51 pm

Since abortion is "the new big thing" of the forums, everyone's talking about it, I think we should look at it from a Jewish point.

This is just my interpretation of the words:

https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article ... -Day-2.htm

I think it's kinda clear......
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:49 pm

Reminds me of a joke

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.

"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."

"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."

"You're both wrong," said the rabbi, as the rebbitzen has told me "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Fahran » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:Reminds me of a joke

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.

"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."

"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."

"You're both wrong," said the rabbi, as the rebbitzen has told me "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."

I love this. :lol:

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Postby Auristania » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:01 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:Reminds me of a joke

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.

"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."

"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."

"You're both wrong," said the rabbi, as the rebbitzen has told me "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."
:clap: :hug: :bow:

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Postby La Xinga » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:07 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:Reminds me of a joke

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.

"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."

"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."

"You're both wrong," said the rabbi, as the rebbitzen has told me "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."

I know no one likes the guy who spoils the joke with facts, but I heard the soul enters the body within 40 days of fertilization.

Needless to say, yeah, life starts when everyone gets married and has a "gantze mishpacha."

It seems Orthodox Jewish families are usually big, which would explain the nice amount of minivans in my area.
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
"

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Postby Auristania » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:17 pm

https://web.archive.org/web/20081205024339/http://www.hasoferet.com/ritual/women.shtml
Website of a Sofereth, a Woman who scribes Holy Scrolls.

Question of Hebrew grammar: Sefer = book; Sofer = maker of books = scribe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Neville,_16th_Earl_of_Warwick Wars of the Roses, Earl of Warwick kept changing sides and earnt the surname "Kingmaker".
Melech = king, might one translate "Warwick the Kingmaker" as Warwick haMolech?

Is this a one off coincidence or is there a system?

Kelev = dog => Kolev = adult dog with children
Even = rock => Oven = maker of rocks.
Worst of all, King David's grandpa was Oved.
Eved = slave => Oved makes people into slaves.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:04 am

La xinga wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Reminds me of a joke

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi were discussing when life begins.

"Life begins," said the priest, "at the moment of fertilization. That is when God instills the spark of life into the fetus."

"We believe," said the minister, "that life begins at birth, because that is when the baby becomes an individual and is capable of making its own decisions and must learn about sin."

"You're both wrong," said the rabbi, as the rebbitzen has told me "Life begins when the children have graduated from college and moved out of the house."

I know no one likes the guy who spoils the joke with facts, but I heard the soul enters the body within 40 days of fertilization.

Needless to say, yeah, life starts when everyone gets married and has a "gantze mishpacha."

It seems Orthodox Jewish families are usually big, which would explain the nice amount of minivans in my area.


You are right, nobody likes the guy who kills a joke.

But your post got me thinking about the number 40.

40 is a pretty big number for us jews. 40 days and 40 nights of the flood. 40 days of clear weather before noah sent out the dove. 40 days moses's spies went into Canaan. Etc.

Why is 40 such a big number for us?
Last edited by Ethel mermania on Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby La Xinga » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:11 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
La xinga wrote:I know no one likes the guy who spoils the joke with facts, but I heard the soul enters the body within 40 days of fertilization.

Needless to say, yeah, life starts when everyone gets married and has a "gantze mishpacha."

It seems Orthodox Jewish families are usually big, which would explain the nice amount of minivans in my area.


You are right, nobody likes the guy who kills a joke.

But your post got me thinking about the number 40.

40 is a pretty big number for us jews. 40 days and 40 nights of the flood. 40 days of clear weather before noah sent out the dove. 40 days moses's spies went into Canaan. Etc.

Why is 40 such a big number for us?

Just wait till you hear about 3 and 7. :roll:
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-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:31 am

La xinga wrote:I know no one likes the guy who spoils the joke with facts, but I heard the soul enters the body within 40 days of fertilization.

Like a good many things, this view is disputed. I was always told that ensoulment occurs when a child is born and takes his or her first breath (nefesh). I believe Yehudah HaNasi placed ensoulment (neshama) at conception or birth.

La xinga wrote:Just wait till you hear about 3 and 7. :roll:

What about twelve?

Forty does seem to occur with especial frequency.
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Postby Fahran » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:43 am

Auristania wrote:Melech = king, might one translate "Warwick the Kingmaker" as Warwick haMolech?

When I see the word molech, I think of foreign idols and child sacrifice. I'll have to look through the site when I get a moment because I might be missing something.

Auristania wrote:Worst of all, King David's grandpa was Oved.
Eved = slave => Oved makes people into slaves.

I'm pretty sure Oved simply means something akin to worshipper or servant.

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Postby La Xinga » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:18 am

You guys do realize it's Tisha Baav, right?
Fahran wrote:
La xinga wrote:I know no one likes the guy who spoils the joke with facts, but I heard the soul enters the body within 40 days of fertilization.

Like a good many things, this view is disputed. I was always told that ensoulment occurs when a child is born and takes his or her first breath (nefesh). I believe Yehudah HaNasi placed ensoulment (neshama) at conception or birth.

La xinga wrote:Just wait till you hear about 3 and 7. :roll:

What about twelve?

Forty does seem to occur with especial frequency.

12? Yes.
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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:01 am

How was Tisha Beav for you all?
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:03 am

Solomons Land wrote:How was Tisha Beav for you all?

It was okay, I think now we need Mashiach more than ever.
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Postby Solomons Land » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:18 am

Auristania wrote:Worst of all, King David's grandpa was Oved.
Eved = slave => Oved makes people into slaves.

I'm pretty sure Oved simply means something akin to worshipper or servant.[/quote]

He is only partially wrong. Oved is the nomic version of eved, which means slave. However, Oved does not follow the pattern he correctly identified, Oved means slave, not slaver; so Ovedyah means Slave of G-d, etc.
Generation 31: enter this into your signature and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:22 am

Solomons Land wrote:
Auristania wrote:Worst of all, King David's grandpa was Oved.
Eved = slave => Oved makes people into slaves.

I'm pretty sure Oved simply means something akin to worshipper or servant.


He is only partially wrong. Oved is the nomic version of eved, which means slave. However, Oved does not follow the pattern he correctly identified, Oved means slave, not slaver; so Ovedyah means Slave of G-d, etc.[/quote]
Eved could also mean servant, which sounds better than slave, since slavery is frowned upon these days, so servant sounds better. Being a servant of Hashem is actually good.
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which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:55 pm

Solomons Land wrote:How was Tisha Beav for you all?

Contemplative and mournful.

La xinga wrote:It was okay, I think now we need Mashiach more than ever.

^ Also, this.
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Postby Auristania » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:36 pm

:)
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Postby Auristania » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:38 pm

La xinga wrote:
Solomons Land wrote:I'm pretty sure Oved simply means something akin to worshipper or servant.


He is only partially wrong. Oved is the nomic version of eved, which means slave. However, Oved does not follow the pattern he correctly identified, Oved means slave, not slaver; so Ovedyah means Slave of G-d, etc.

Eved could also mean servant, which sounds better than slave, since slavery is frowned upon these days, so servant sounds better. Being a servant of Hashem is actually good.

So the pattern is correct, but Oved is an exception. THANKS.

When the base word is a verb XaYaZ, then XoYeZ = XYZing or XYZer. I guessed the rule when the base word is a noun XeYeZ.

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Postby La Xinga » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:38 pm

Auristania wrote:
Solomons Land wrote:I'm pretty sure Oved simply means something akin to worshipper or servant.


He is only partially wrong. Oved is the nomic version of eved, which means slave. However, Oved does not follow the pattern he correctly identified, Oved means slave, not slaver; so Ovedyah means Slave of G-d, etc.

So the pattern is correct, but Oved is an exception. THANKS.

When the base word is a verb XaYaZ, then XoYeZ = XYZing or XYZer. I guessed the rule when the base word is a noun XeYeZ.[/quote]
Servant and slave I believe are the same thing in the Torah.
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I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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Postby La Xinga » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:52 pm

A lot of people don't know this, but this is actually the happiest day in Judaism. Well, it used to be big and famous in the days of old, now no one even hears of it.....anyway,

Happy Tu'B'Av!
Food Discussion Thread (II)
I use NS stats if I like them.

-My RMB Quotebook!-
-When the SCOTUS is sus-
"[L]aw, without equity, though hard and disagreeable, is much more desirable for the public good, than equity without law;
which would make every judge a legislator, and introduce most infinite confusion.
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