Iran, Blogger, Death Sentence, Insulting Mohammad

[Victoriala]

Islam is not the evil here. The people are. Having one's petty cultural views get in the way of faith is ridiculous, and politicizing it is beyond idiotic.

I was waiting for someone to say that.

[Lankar Islands]

Islam is not the evil here. The people are. Having one's petty cultural views get in the way of faith is ridiculous, and politicizing it is beyond idiotic.

I was waiting for someone to say that.

I would know full well about it. I loathe, no... I despise those that politicize a certain religion, just to further their twisted agendas of a twisted reality.

[Victoriala]

I was waiting for someone to say that.

I would know full well about it. I loathe, no... I despise those that politicize a certain religion, just to further their twisted agendas of a twisted reality.

Most theocracies are like that.

[Empire of Narnia]

Great bait, mate. I rate eight over eight.

Trying too much, old friend?

Between the carebear ISIS policies and now praising and agreeing with a system of law that condemns a man to death from speaking, possibly even out of his right state of man?

Yeah, I am going to say it is trolling.

I'm not a troll, but I'll admit I have a thing for Islamic regimes, even though I'm not Muslim.

[Farnhamia]

Great bait, mate. I rate eight over eight.

Trying too much, old friend?

Between the carebear ISIS policies and now praising and agreeing with a system of law that condemns a man to death from speaking, possibly even out of his right state of man?

Yeah, I am going to say it is trolling.

Trolling should be reported in Moderation.

[Herskerstad]

Between the carebear ISIS policies and now praising and agreeing with a system of law that condemns a man to death from speaking, possibly even out of his right state of man?

Yeah, I am going to say it is trolling.

Trolling should be reported in Moderation.

My Apologies, if time allows it, I'll make a case later.

[Sun Wukong]

Iran is very Nazi like.

Well they are Aryans...

[Ainin]

This is why Iran was better off under the Shah.

Yes, the other despotic mass murdering regime is better than this despotic mass murdering regime.

[Gauthier]

This is why Iran was better off under the Shah.

Yes, the other despotic mass murdering regime is better than this despotic mass murdering regime.

It's okay for governments to arrest, torture and murder people as long as they're not claiming to do it because Islam. *nod nod*

[The Flood]

This is why Iran was better off under the Shah.

Yes, the other despotic mass murdering regime is better than this despotic mass murdering regime.

The Shah was nowhere near as cruel as the current regime.

[Lankar Islands]

Yes, the other despotic mass murdering regime is better than this despotic mass murdering regime.

The Shah was nowhere near as cruel as the current regime.

Impoverishing the nation's people is not cruel?

[Ainin]

Yes, the other despotic mass murdering regime is better than this despotic mass murdering regime.

The Shah was nowhere near as cruel as the current regime.

The tens of thousands of people his regime murdered disagree.

[Risottia]

I agree with the law.

If you agree with the Iranian government then you shouldn't object to them having nuclear power or nuclear weapons, riiiight?

You know, actually the Iranian nuclear program bothers me a lot less than the Iranian theocracy and police/judiciary brutality does.

[Herskerstad]

If you agree with the Iranian government then you shouldn't object to them having nuclear power or nuclear weapons, riiiight?

You know, actually the Iranian nuclear program bothers me a lot less than the Iranian theocracy and police/judiciary brutality does.

Seeing how one has the potential of genocide, and leaders who are on the less sane side of things. I'd put the Iranian nuclear program first, but it is the combination of the two that is the most worrying, because it is not merely a safety mechanism for them.

[Risottia]

You know, actually the Iranian nuclear program bothers me a lot less than the Iranian theocracy and police/judiciary brutality does.

Seeing how one has the potential of genocide, and leaders who are on the less sane side of things. I'd put the Iranian nuclear program first, but it is the combination of the two that is the most worrying, because it is not merely a safety mechanism for them.

Nah. How many wars or genocides has Iran started? Compare with the other nuclear powers that are present in the area... like, dunno, PAKISTAN?
Plus, a nuclear-armed Iran would be under the retaliation threat of basically everyone else, so, no, a nuclear-armed Iran fails to scare me.

The possible export of theocratic ideas, on the other hand...

[Baltenstein]

Seeing how one has the potential of genocide, and leaders who are on the less sane side of things. I'd put the Iranian nuclear program first, but it is the combination of the two that is the most worrying, because it is not merely a safety mechanism for them.

Nah. How many wars or genocides has Iran started? Compare with the other nuclear powers that are present in the area... like, dunno, PAKISTAN?
Plus, a nuclear-armed Iran would be under the retaliation threat of basically everyone else, so, no, a nuclear-armed Iran fails to scare me.

The possible export of theocratic ideas, on the other hand...

Fortunately, Shia Islam (not unlike Orthodox Christianity) has a very regional identity flavor and doesn't do much faith export, unlike Salafism/Evangelicalism.

[Herskerstad]

Seeing how one has the potential of genocide, and leaders who are on the less sane side of things. I'd put the Iranian nuclear program first, but it is the combination of the two that is the most worrying, because it is not merely a safety mechanism for them.

Nah. How many wars or genocides has Iran started? Compare with the other nuclear powers that are present in the area... like, dunno, PAKISTAN?
Plus, a nuclear-armed Iran would be under the retaliation threat of basically everyone else, so, no, a nuclear-armed Iran fails to scare me.

The possible export of theocratic ideas, on the other hand...

Oh they got their hands on multiple rebel groups which are involved in proxy wars. They are by no standards isolationist due to their lack of actual started full-confrontational engagement, as they are locked in between strategic alliances, they of course also have their own troubles with certain groups to the northwest of their nation, IE, Kurdish factions which have been fighting for a while, but mostly, it has never been a strategic interest, partially due to the state of the nation itself, and partially due to the alliances around it, never to go into full combat with it's neighbors. Though, a Saudi conflict would not be outside reality should such alliances get vaporized.

And I completely agree that sad as it is, most of the alliances are Machiavellian to say the least. Pakistan is the biggest and by far the most worst offender as far as their nuclear arsenal goes, if the UN was even half-competent, they would have stripped this before India could follow suit. Saudi Arabia, also a theocratic hellhole. And if Obama had any kind of foresight he would have had a Manhattan-level project to try to find alternative energy sources to break the oil gridlock, and subsequently, put pressure on Saudi Arabia to reform or at least stop funding radicals all over the world.

The nation that could however certainly not tolerate Iran gaining nuclear weapons is Israel who's had plenty of shit from Iran by proxy groups. They have drawn their red lines, and I very much suspect the last war, of which I made some accurate predictions, was largely to disarm Hamas for an upcoming conflict. As long as the Ayatollah who is the true leader of Iran has made it clear, among that former fool Ahmedinisomething and other leading officials that the destruction of Israel, or the small and big Satan, and the 'zionist jews' is halal. At least as long as Bibi is on the helm on the other side, I doubt he'll let the program live long enough to have a chance to materialize.

Though, I suspect if it is held out long enough for perhaps Hillary or a Republican to take the stage, then that'd be preferable to dealing with the current man in office.

[Quintium]

Surprised, and blaming the Iranian justice system for this? It's all in the religion itself, you know, and the Iranian justice system is only holding true to Islam.

Quran 5:33-34
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

[Herskerstad]

Surprised, and blaming the Iranian justice system for this? It's all in the religion itself, you know, and the Iranian justice system is only holding true to Islam.

Quran 5:33-34
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

I am certain that if we just use a sprinkle of political correctness and censor the quran, and a few lies for the greater good to write above the spaces, we can make it something like this.

Quran 5:33-34
Indeed, the penalty for those who are politically incorrect against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] sadness is none but that they be tickled or snugged or that their hands and feet be stimulated from opposite sides or that they be feeling secure in a multi-cultural hug. That is for them a security in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great laugh, except for those who return [wanting more] before you embrace them. And know that Allah is Tolerant and all-loving.

[Victoriala]

Surprised, and blaming the Iranian justice system for this? It's all in the religion itself, you know, and the Iranian justice system is only holding true to Islam.

I am certain that if we just use a sprinkle of political correctness and censor the quran, and a few lies for the greater good to write above the spaces, we can make it something like this.

Quran 5:33-34
Indeed, the penalty for those who are politically incorrect against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] sadness is none but that they be tickled or snugged or that their hands and feet be stimulated from opposite sides or that they be feeling secure in a multi-cultural hug. That is for them a security in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great laugh, except for those who return [wanting more] before you embrace them. And know that Allah is Tolerant and all-loving.

You have endangered us all.

[Quintium]

You have endangered us all.

Nah. Iran couldn't dox us if we sent them our personal details by email.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Please, just conquer us already, we'll be nice!

Please, aliens, just end it already!

[The Emerald Legion]

Blasphemy laws.

They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/

Technically that's not a blasphemy law. Just a "Don't be an offensive dumbass" law.

It doesn't matter if what your messing with is a statue of Jesus, Mohammed, or Abraham Lincoln. If it's gonna upset a ton of people then it's against that law.

[Gauthier]

The religious nature of the statue has nothing to do with the law. The same charge could be brought if it had been a statue of Lincoln. The DA is being stupid, but it is nothing like the case in Iran, and it should be pointed out that there has been no ruling from the courts, which are likely to throw it out and laugh at the DA while doing so.

Technically that's not a blasphemy law. Just a "Don't be an offensive dumbass" law.

It doesn't matter if what your messing with is a statue of Jesus, Mohammed, or Abraham Lincoln. If it's gonna upset a ton of people then it's against that law.

Might want to tell a bunch of people that it's not a blasphemy law then, because they're sure talking about it like it is:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=312342

[Tmutarakhan]

The religious nature of the statue has nothing to do with the law. The same charge could be brought if it had been a statue of Lincoln. The DA is being stupid, but it is nothing like the case in Iran, and it should be pointed out that there has been no ruling from the courts, which are likely to throw it out and laugh at the DA while doing so.

Technically that's not a blasphemy law. Just a "Don't be an offensive dumbass" law.

It doesn't matter if what your messing with is a statue of Jesus, Mohammed, or Abraham Lincoln. If it's gonna upset a ton of people then it's against that law.

Might want to tell a bunch of people that it's not a blasphemy law then, because they're sure talking about it like it is:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=312342

That thread already contains many efforts by people to correct the error you are repeating here.