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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:43 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Not in the least sense is that even factually correct.

They are both fascist.

Wrong.
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Postby Jetan » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 pm

Iran is a backwards shitstate. In other news, pope is still catholic.

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Postby Vamtrl » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 pm

Ifreann wrote:Yes, the Iranian judicial system proves that Islam is evil. :roll:


Oh if it was only the Iranian judicial system and not every Islam dominated country where you have blasphemy laws. Oh wait. :lol:

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Postby Jukulia » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:48 pm

Iran under Shah = Great
Iran under Ayatollah = Hellhole

The Islamic Republic of Iran continues to be a supporter of a wide range of terrorist organizations (Ex. Hamas, Hezbollah).

The new presidency [Rouhani] showed very, very little improvements.

The Ahmadinejad presidency was the worst. Because of his criticism towards Israel, he managed to make an ass of himself in front of the world! For example, he compared Israel to a transplanted kidney, saying, "This entity [Israel] can be compared to a kidney transplanted in a body that rejected it. Yes it will collapse and its end will be near."

Worst of all, he said that Israel should be "wiped off the map!" This made Iran's reputation nothing more than just a downwards slope. And Israel was so angry, that it called for Iran to be expelled from the UN.

And thus, the Socialist People's Republic of Jukulia will continue to aim its hatred towards the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:49 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yes, the Iranian judicial system proves that Islam is evil. :roll:


Oh if it was only the Iranian judicial system

It is, unless you believe that Soheil Arabi can bilocate.

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Postby Vamtrl » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:51 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Oh if it was only the Iranian judicial system

It is, unless you believe that Soheil Arabi can bilocate.


Blasphemy laws. :lol:

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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:58 pm

This is why freedom of religion and freedom from religion are very important. Without it, religion interferes with the government, and the country will inevitably turn into a theocracy.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:59 pm

Vamtrl wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It is, unless you believe that Soheil Arabi can bilocate.


Blasphemy laws. :lol:


They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/
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Postby Victoriala » Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:59 pm

Ifreann wrote:Yes, the Iranian judicial system proves that Islam is evil. :roll:

In some places and variants, yes, but branding a religion as "evil" would be blunt generalization.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:00 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Blasphemy laws. :lol:


They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/

Despite how idiotic this ruling is, it's not nearly as severe as the laws in Iran, though.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:02 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/

Despite how idiotic this ruling is, it's not nearly as severe as the laws in Iran, though.


But it does kind of stomp on the idea that religious laws is an exclusively Muslim phenomenon. Oh, let's not forget Uganda making homosexuality punishable by life sentence too.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:04 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Despite how idiotic this ruling is, it's not nearly as severe as the laws in Iran, though.


But it does kind of stomp on the idea that religious laws is an exclusively Muslim phenomenon. Oh, let's not forget Uganda making homosexuality punishable by life sentence too.

Saying that religious laws is an exclusively Muslim phenomenon is false. Religious laws have arisen in most, if not all Human societies.

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Postby Vamtrl » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:06 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Blasphemy laws. :lol:


They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/


I will have you note that I think Christianity is also a stain upon mankind.

Also its one thing to have laws and another thing to enforce it, the kid is not going to spend a day in juvie nevertheless be sentenced to death. :lol:

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Postby Vamtrl » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Despite how idiotic this ruling is, it's not nearly as severe as the laws in Iran, though.


But it does kind of stomp on the idea that religious laws is an exclusively Muslim phenomenon. Oh, let's not forget Uganda making homosexuality punishable by life sentence too.


The law in question -

Pennsylvania law defines desecration as “Defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise, physically mistreating in a way that the actor knows will outrage the sensibilities of persons likely to observe or discover the action.”


So it could be Muslim or Christian or Buddhist? What ev's man. :?

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Postby Gigaverse » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:08 pm

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Disregarding gender, I don't want to get anyone pregnant.

That aside... Really? Iran is going off the slippery slope these last few days. It's like Sharia is getting more active.
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Postby Great Judea » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:19 pm

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:35 pm

Gigaverse wrote:
The Republic of Merrimont wrote:Fuck me.

Disregarding gender, I don't want to get anyone pregnant.

That aside... Really? Iran is going off the slippery slope these last few days. It's like Sharia is getting more active.

Sharia is a beautiful system of law.

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Postby Othelos » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:36 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Disregarding gender, I don't want to get anyone pregnant.

That aside... Really? Iran is going off the slippery slope these last few days. It's like Sharia is getting more active.

Sharia is a beautiful system of law.

More like horrendously stupid, and a complete waste of everyone's time.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:38 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Disregarding gender, I don't want to get anyone pregnant.

That aside... Really? Iran is going off the slippery slope these last few days. It's like Sharia is getting more active.

Sharia is a beautiful system of law.

Not exactly. قانون اسلامی is very pervasive

Sharia (Islamic law) deals with many topics addressed by secular law, including crime, politics, and economics, as well as personal matters such as sexual intercourse, hygiene, diet, prayer, everyday etiquette and fasting.

Human interpretations of sharia (fiqh) vary between Islamic sects and respective schools of jurisprudence, yet in its strictest and most historically coherent definition, sharia is considered the infallible law of God.

secularists believe that the law of the state should be based on secular principles, not on Islamic legal doctrines; traditionalists believe that the law of the state should be based on the traditional legal
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Postby Vamtrl » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:45 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Disregarding gender, I don't want to get anyone pregnant.

That aside... Really? Iran is going off the slippery slope these last few days. It's like Sharia is getting more active.

Sharia is a beautiful system of law.


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Postby Tmutarakhan » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:52 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:
Blasphemy laws. :lol:


They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/

The religious nature of the statue has nothing to do with the law. The same charge could be brought if it had been a statue of Lincoln. The DA is being stupid, but it is nothing like the case in Iran, and it should be pointed out that there has been no ruling from the courts, which are likely to throw it out and laugh at the DA while doing so.
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Postby Vamtrl » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:56 pm

Tmutarakhan wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
They do have laws like that in the United States too.

http://news.kron4.com/news/teen-could-g ... us-statue/

The religious nature of the statue has nothing to do with the law. The same charge could be brought if it had been a statue of Lincoln. The DA is being stupid, but it is nothing like the case in Iran, and it should be pointed out that there has been no ruling from the courts, which are likely to throw it out and laugh at the DA while doing so.


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Postby Victoriala » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:05 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Disregarding gender, I don't want to get anyone pregnant.

That aside... Really? Iran is going off the slippery slope these last few days. It's like Sharia is getting more active.

Sharia is a beautiful system of law.

Great bait, mate. I rate eight over eight.

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Postby Herskerstad » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:12 pm

Victoriala wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Sharia is a beautiful system of law.

Great bait, mate. I rate eight over eight.

Trying too much, old friend?


Between the carebear ISIS policies and now praising and agreeing with a system of law that condemns a man to death from speaking, possibly even out of his right state of man?

Yeah, I am going to say it is trolling.
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Postby Lankar Islands » Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:24 pm

Islam is not the evil here. The people are. Having one's petty cultural views get in the way of faith is ridiculous, and politicizing it is beyond idiotic.
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