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Postby Wanderjar » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:56 am

Pope Joan wrote:Have you been to Cocoa Beach? It's a lovely place, right near the Kennedy Space Center, and it has space museums and tons of rocket scientists. They have been trying posting.php?mode=quote&f=20&p=21774247#to pull back and reinvent the space program after the demise of the shuttle, and in my opinion they have come up with some workable ideas.

Some are still NASA, others are ex, but would run back if there were an opening.

Let's give them a chance.


I divide my time between Glasgow Scotland, Tampa, and Vero Beach Florida. When shuttles launch I can see it from my house. I've also been to the Space Center numerous times. While cool, it doesn't change the fact that they're a waste of resources which would frankly be better spent on repairing infrastructure. Or paying down the national debt.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:59 am

Wanderjar wrote:NASA really serves no real function today, so I'd agree that we'd be better off if it were shut down. The simple fact of the matter is that all the 'experiments' which NASA conducts are highschool level juvenile projects which could be done on earth too.

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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:59 am

No, heavens no. NASA is absolutely essential to our space and science research, and if we want the ability to continue to head into space, we need NASA.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:01 am

The Scientific States wrote:No, heavens no. NASA is absolutely essential to our space and science research, and if we want the ability to continue to head into space, we need NASA.

Clearly never heard of SpaceX, or the fact that the Russian's take astronauts/cosmonauts to the space station not NASA.

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Postby Norstal » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:02 am

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The Scientific States wrote:No, heavens no. NASA is absolutely essential to our space and science research, and if we want the ability to continue to head into space, we need NASA.

Clearly never heard of SpaceX, or the fact that the Russian's take astronauts/cosmonauts to the space station not NASA.

SpaceX does climate research? And why would Russia care about weather patterns in the U.S?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:03 am

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The Flood wrote:No, never.

And NASA's funding should also be multiplied tenfold.

And where do you propose we get the money to do that?

NASA's budget is about 0.5% of government spending and 35% of academic spending in the sciences, amounting to $18.4bn
Though this amount is not infeasible to increase, tenfold is too much. $184bn would fund the US military's operations budget for about eight months.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:04 am

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Calisu wrote:Clearly never heard of SpaceX, or the fact that the Russian's take astronauts/cosmonauts to the space station not NASA.

SpaceX does climate research? And why would Russia care about weather patterns in the U.S?

The Scientific States wrote:No, heavens no. NASA is absolutely essential to our space and science research, and if we want the ability to continue to head into space, we need NASA.
Underlined what I was replying to as you clearly cannot read.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:06 am

Calisu wrote:
Norstal wrote:SpaceX does climate research? And why would Russia care about weather patterns in the U.S?

The Scientific States wrote:No, heavens no. NASA is absolutely essential to our space and science research, and if we want the ability to continue to head into space, we need NASA.
Underlined what I was replying to as you clearly cannot read.

Your clarification is irrelevant, as the point still stands that NASA does more than stare forlornly at the moon.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:07 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Calisu wrote:Underlined what I was replying to as you clearly cannot read.

Your clarification is irrelevant, as the point still stands that NASA does more than stare forlornly at the moon.

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Postby Chiene » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:08 am

Absolutely not, just wait till the Space Launch System comes into the picture. They are testing the Orion capsule in space in just a few months. NASA's funding was wrongly cut by the government, it is working with what it can.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:09 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Your clarification is irrelevant, as the point still stands that NASA does more than stare forlornly at the moon.

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Yeah I'm sure your Physics degree from Phoenix University makes you qualified to say NASA is useless.
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Postby Mandicoria » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:11 am

The Scientific States wrote:No, heavens no. NASA is absolutely essential to our space and science research, and if we want the ability to continue to head into space, we need NASA.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:16 am

Norstal wrote:
Calisu wrote:Barely

Yeah I'm sure your Physics degree from Phoenix University makes you qualified to say NASA is useless.

Yet you have not provided anything proving it's not useless.

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Postby The zombie empire » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:16 am

Calisu wrote:NASA was founded by Nazi scientists brought over by the OSS during Operation Paperclip, they never paid for their war crimes and it is immoral to keep NASA around.


NASA has no funds. the only reason it was created was to get to the moon before the soviets did. After that, NASA died as funding dropped of. A new organization should be created that actually gets FUNDING and get back to the moon or mars and beyond. This has nothing to to with the Nazi scientists

( NASA was founded by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, not Wernher von Braun or any of the other scientists. DUH!!! :eyebrow:

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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:18 am

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Calisu wrote:NASA was founded by Nazi scientists brought over by the OSS during Operation Paperclip, they never paid for their war crimes and it is immoral to keep NASA around.


NASA has no funds. the only reason it was created was to get to the moon before the soviets did. After that, NASA died as funding dropped of. A new organization should be created that actually gets FUNDING and get back to the moon or mars and beyond. This has nothing to to with the Nazi scientists

( NASA was founded by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, not Wernher von Braun or any of the other scientists. DUH!!! :eyebrow:

SpaceX is the future not NASA is the future.

Also the first moon landing was faked in a fit of cold war propaganda.

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Postby The zombie empire » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:18 am

We could get resources from space to help society, so do not tell me we have more important things to do.

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:20 am

Calisu wrote:NASA was founded by Nazi scientists brought over by the OSS during Operation Paperclip, they never paid for their war crimes and it is immoral to keep NASA around.


They made up for any alleged war crimes when they defected.

Which war crimes did hey commit?
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:20 am

The zombie empire wrote:We could get resources from space to help society, so do not tell me we have more important things to do.

Again privatized space programs are the future, not NASA http://www.space.com/15419-asteroid-min ... light.html

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:22 am

Calisu wrote:
The zombie empire wrote:We could get resources from space to help society, so do not tell me we have more important things to do.

Again privatized space programs are the future, not NASA http://www.space.com/15419-asteroid-min ... light.html


The fact you are being paid to promote SpaceX notwithstanding, I don't see why the fuck the private sector should be allowed to monopolize space.

If anything, the fact private corporations are making a bid should make NASA more important than ever.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:24 am

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Calisu wrote:Again privatized space programs are the future, not NASA http://www.space.com/15419-asteroid-min ... light.html


The fact you are being paid to promote SpaceX notwithstanding, I don't see why the fuck the private sector should be allowed to monopolize space.

If anything, the fact private corporations are making a bid should make NASA more important than ever.

So private organizations shouldn't be allowed to but US government programs should?

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:25 am

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The fact you are being paid to promote SpaceX notwithstanding, I don't see why the fuck the private sector should be allowed to monopolize space.

If anything, the fact private corporations are making a bid should make NASA more important than ever.

So private organizations shouldn't be allowed to but US government programs should?


Space is the final frontier for democracy and freedom.

America should be there in full force, not just as a private effort.

That would be a waste of space. Pun intended.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:26 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Calisu wrote:So private organizations shouldn't be allowed to but US government programs should?


Space is the final frontier for democracy and freedom.

America should be there in full force, not just as a private effort.

That would be a waste of space. Pun intended.

I've yet to see evidence of the US being anything close to "democracy and freedom" Governments should have nothing to do with space.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:27 am

Calisu wrote:
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NASA has no funds. the only reason it was created was to get to the moon before the soviets did. After that, NASA died as funding dropped of. A new organization should be created that actually gets FUNDING and get back to the moon or mars and beyond. This has nothing to to with the Nazi scientists

( NASA was founded by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, not Wernher von Braun or any of the other scientists. DUH!!! :eyebrow:

SpaceX is the future not NASA is the future.

Also the first moon landing was faked in a fit of cold war propaganda.

So why did the Russians not cry foul?
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:29 am

Calisu wrote:
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NASA has no funds. the only reason it was created was to get to the moon before the soviets did. After that, NASA died as funding dropped of. A new organization should be created that actually gets FUNDING and get back to the moon or mars and beyond. This has nothing to to with the Nazi scientists

( NASA was founded by President Dwight D. Eisenhower, not Wernher von Braun or any of the other scientists. DUH!!! :eyebrow:

SpaceX is the future not NASA is the future.

Also the first moon landing was faked in a fit of cold war propaganda.


Wow, you have the beliefs of a chimpanzee.

I betcha the International Space Station is fake too, even though we can see it from the fucking surface with a regular telescope.
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Postby Calisu » Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:30 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Calisu wrote:SpaceX is the future not NASA is the future.

Also the first moon landing was faked in a fit of cold war propaganda.

So why did the Russians not cry foul?

They were tricked by Project Star Wars.

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