Has Political Correctness in the USA gone too far?

[Margno]

The point of it was to be disturbing if someone said that would you punch them? Yeah its a pretty horrible thing to say I agree. However is the reaction to assault someone because of that necessary?

You went right for a really extreme example if what you're calling for is pacifism.
Yes to your question, I don't, for example, think the Westboro Baptist Church should be beaten either. But the fact that they get an outrageous amount of resistance is a good thing, not an example of political correctness going too far. What you seem to be calling for is a climate in which opposing the ideas of others is considered unacceptable (which, ironically, is itself an opposing idea to essentially all ideas as such.) But opposing the ideas of others is a moral imperative when those ideas are unjust.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Is that what you think political correctness is? Punching people in the face when they say horrible, indefensible things?

That has happened in the name of political correctness.

Wait, I thought that it was just an example, and hadn't actually happened. If you're going to post utter bullshit, then at least try to be consistent with your utter bullshit.

[Margno]

My high school wouldn't let us put on a performance of westside story because they thought it was racist against Hispanics.

And this is nowhere near equal to people being accused of being communists and fired from their jobs.
Try again.

You don't think people are accused of being racists and lose their jobs?
Dude, that happens all the time.

[The Predator Federation]

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[Genivaria]

Seeing as how 1 in 4 women in the US have been sexually assaulted it would sure as fuck be justified.

First of all that's not the whole statement, The whole statement is this
"One in four women have either been sexually assaulted or have sexually assaulted someone else" Yes its true
Second, I dunno if violence is the answer probably not a very good one if it is.

No actually that wasn't the statement, I made up that statement, but I like how you corrected a bullshit statistic with another bullshit statistic.
Actually it's 1 in 6.

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).

https://www.rainn.org/get-information/s ... lt-victims

[Crimiea]

Your example is a bad one, a really, really bad one. Rape usually traumatizes the victim and is one of the most hideous violent acts that can be committed towards another human being. Anyway, what irks me about PC is this:

Huckleberry Finn being taken off of bookshelves or edited thus ruining the atmosphere, the feel of the book written by an author of that time in that time in a language and society of that time. I can see why people would be offended by the overuse of the word "nigger" in the book, however, it's also something we should understand that it was written in the time where it's common to use the word the way asking Asian-Americans (or any minority that's not African-American) "Where are you from? Where are you REALLY from? Like, where do your family come from?" is today. Both are equally offensive to the minority group targeted, and both are commonly used in the time period it's used at (the latter being today). In short, it's American culture then to throw the word "nigger" without any social backlash much as it is American culture now to deny me, my parents, and my grandparents' American upbringing because we're not classified as "White" or "Black" without any backlash (and if we do express discontent, we get told "Chill, man, it's just a question").

In short, although I do not like that derogatory word, nor do I want to be asked those annoying questions that makes me want to whip them with an American flag singing the Star Spangled Banner, the problem is that we are blocking out, erasing, editing, a part of our history, however dark and shocking to modern Americans it may be. Other than erasing a part of our history that we don't like (like in Huckleberry Finn's time, it's okay to call African-Americans by that particular word), I do see the need for a socially morale code in what we say; for example, we keep preaching about respecting others culture, so we should respect the fact that I don't eat pork, I do not work on Saturdays, the food I eat must be kosher, etc and I in turn will not force you to get circumcised, force the government to ban pork (like some want to ban gay marriage) because of religion, etc. And thus, by respecting other cultures, we have no excuse to try to censor out a part of our history by modifying our culture of the past (which I thank to goodness is no longer practiced by the mainstream).

[The Predator Federation]

That has happened in the name of political correctness.

Wait, I thought that it was just an example, and hadn't actually happened. If you're going to post utter bullshit, then at least try to be consistent with your utter bullshit.

Look my example was a very unpopular opinion that quote "rape is not as bad as people say it is" not my opinion
I used it as an example
People have attacked/assaulted people for saying this because yes it has been said but I am using it as an example

[Margno]

My high school wouldn't let us put on a performance of westside story because they thought it was racist against Hispanics.

My high school did put on a performance of West Side Story but we had to change a line mentioning "condom" to "thingy" because it offended the sensibilities of our Morman headmaster. Fucking religious people shitting all over freedoms....right?

Yeah, that's dumb. Censorship is dumb.
If you expect me to be offended, you haven't tried being religious in Amherst lately. It takes a hell of a lot more than that.

[Alcase]

These days you're not really allowed to say what you want however it's not the government that is limiting your freedom of speech, it is the people. These days you cannot express your opinions for example Redacted/Removed Without some offended teen going up to you and hitting you and basically just shaming you. (Yes this has happened several times) So what do you think NS? has political correctness gone too far or is it fine where it is

EDIT:
Okay I used a pretty bad example but you get the point

No the point barely matters. Claiming that rape is not as bad as it seems is well deserving of a punch in the face, and I'd be happy to carry out the justice.

[Genivaria]

And this is nowhere near equal to people being accused of being communists and fired from their jobs.
Try again.

You don't think people are accused of being racists and lose their jobs?
Dude, that happens all the time.

Define *all the time* and source it.

[Genivaria]

Wait, I thought that it was just an example, and hadn't actually happened. If you're going to post utter bullshit, then at least try to be consistent with your utter bullshit.

Look my example was a very unpopular opinion that quote "rape is not as bad as people say it is" not my opinion
I used it as an example
People have attacked/assaulted people for saying this because yes it has been said but I am using it as an example

No sympathy for them, you do realize you sound like a rape apologist right now?

[Alcase]

These days you're not really allowed to say what you want however it's not the government that is limiting your freedom of speech, it is the people. These days you cannot express your opinions for example "I don't think rape is as bad as people say it is" Without some offended teen going up to you and hitting you and basically just shaming you. (Yes this has happened several times) So what do you think NS? has political correctness gone too far or is it fine where it is

That's a really fucking shitty example to use.
If you actually said that then no wonder they got in your face.

Because the OP is a little b for deleting his disgusting example, here's the OP without its edits.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I would love to see your source for this.

https://www.rainn.org/get-information/s ... lt-victims
http://www.oneinfourusa.org/statistics.php
Here is a statement:
"1 in 6 women have a record of trying to attempt or complete rape"
vs
"1 in 33 men have attempted or completed rape"

That's not what it said.

1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1

Holy shit, dude. I think that it's time for you to back off and save yourself any further embarrassment, assuming you're capable of that emotion.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

And this is nowhere near equal to people being accused of being communists and fired from their jobs.
Try again.

You don't think people are accused of being racists and lose their jobs?
Dude, that happens all the time.

Okay. Are they actually racists, though?

[Ulrenon]

I can't stand politically correct people, they overdo the whole "Oh no, no, I would never say that because (minority) has been through so much."

[Margno]

My high school wouldn't let us put on a performance of westside story because they thought it was racist against Hispanics.

It's "West Side Story", not "westside story".

And that's no comparable to the Red Scare, in which thousands lost their jobs, prominent actors, screenwriters, and directors were driven into exile or forced to hire "fronts" to pretend to have written screenplays they'd created, and government employees with spotless records were stripped of security clearances without due process based upon baseless accusations or long-forgotten memberships in civil rights organizations.

Certainly not in scale, but in silliness and baselessness is what I meant. Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

[Patridam]

I posted like crazy in the last thread on this, but I don't intend to get sucked into this one. I will say, that political correctness has its uses and is generally well intentioned, but, at least in my opinion, it overreaches nowadays. Some instances I'd count towards legitimate limitations of speech, but most are just stupid or ridiculous.

[Des-Bal]

You basically asked if Airport Security is too invasive because you have to wear pants in the park, your question is reasonable but your example and claims are so unrelated I have to assume it was an accident.

You went right for a really extreme example if what you're calling for is pacifism.
Yes to your question, I don't, for example, think the Westboro Baptist Church should be beaten either. But the fact that they get an outrageous amount of resistance is a good thing, not an example of political correctness going too far. What you seem to be calling for is a climate in which opposing the ideas of others is considered unacceptable (which, ironically, is itself an opposing idea to essentially all ideas as such.) But opposing the ideas of others is a moral imperative when those ideas are unjust.

They're frequently beaten, a lot of their income is from lawsuits after people beat them.

[The Predator Federation]

I read it wrong I get the point I used a bad example I am sorry Jesus Christ.
Look, if you are trying to make me feel bad because I used a bad example then I think political correctness has gone too far.

[Margno]

You don't think people are accused of being racists and lose their jobs?
Dude, that happens all the time.

Okay. Are they actually racists, though?

Hell, I doubt all of them are.
Paula Deen certainly is. Holy shit is she.

[Allector]

Political correctness is freaking insane these days. For example, I have a black friend, but he doesn't like to be called black or African American. He likes to be called

Johnathan, since that's his name.

Yeah, I just used this thread to make a joke, what're you gonna do about it?

[The Predator Federation]

I read it wrong I get the point I used a bad example I am sorry Jesus Christ.
Look, if you are trying to make me feel bad because I used a bad example then I think political correctness has gone too far.

Now stop scolding me like I am a child

[Ifreann]

I read it wrong I get the point I used a bad example I am sorry Jesus Christ.
Look, if you are trying to make me feel bad because I used a bad example then I think political correctness has gone too far.

We're not punching you in the face, though.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I read it wrong I get the point I used a bad example I am sorry Jesus Christ.
Look, if you are trying to make me feel bad because I used a bad example then I think political correctness has gone too far.

We're trying to point out that you used an example that is not only bad, but insulting. I personally would have dropped it if you hadn't then intentionally misquoted a source to make it appear that the number of victims of rape were actually victims AND aggressors. That was reprehensible, and as there are rape survivors on this forum, you owe them an apology.

[Fartsniffage]

My high school did put on a performance of West Side Story but we had to change a line mentioning "condom" to "thingy" because it offended the sensibilities of our Morman headmaster. Fucking religious people shitting all over freedoms....right?

Yeah, that's dumb. Censorship is dumb.
If you expect me to be offended, you haven't tried being religious in Amherst lately. It takes a hell of a lot more than that.

I haven't tried being religious anywhere. The holy water just seems to burn too much.

Is all censorship dumb?