Has Political Correctness in the USA gone too far?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Considering I fear for my life if I say 'black person' in history class or explaining my Creationist views in science class...yes, I think free speech is being suffocated by social Marxism.

So because you advocate wrong viewpoints and people call you out on it or not define populations well enough in History class now that's political correctness?

Take a clue: it's called "the teacher instructing you how to speak to certain audiences".

[Jumalariik]

Yes. Political correctness at all is too far.

Political correctness is the idea of limiting any forms of action or expression that exclude, oppress or single out other groups. By definition, that idea is reactionary and by definition, it will always be used by established powers to attack the lower classes. It is politically incorrect to call people who insane, insane. It is politically incorrect not to be attracted to trans people. It is politically incorrect to not be attracted to fat people. The people who understand and agree with this are either 1. idiots. 2. crazy, or 3. they have the intent of using it to cause problems to people who are threats to them, i.e. people not indoctrinated into their bullshit. The people who know political correctness enough to be truly politically correct are invariably thin skinned and are usually tied in with academia, a reactionary institution. Those who do not understand it are those who are not educated (indoctrinated) into this system of beliefs, usually people with not enough money/leisure to spend it on college, thus, poorer people are less able to conform to this reactionary institutional viewpoint, thus, they are continually going to be put down by thin-skinned Machiavellian academic assholes.
The other obvious problem is that it makes the focus of everything on gender, thus isolating people's minds from the truly important realms of race and class. Political correctness does not seek as an ideology to subvert the current order, simply to tweak it, or more accurately, to tweak the subjects of the current order, the working class.

Now you see how I feel.

Since when has anyone argued that you should be attracted to trans people or to fat people?

People who are actual adults understand the difference between a preference and prejudice. A preference doesn't have to be prejudice, but a prejudice can be a preference.

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

[Benuty]

I should note Jumalariik it is politically incorrect to call someone insane because insanity is a something which originates in courts of law thus having no acceptable bounds within psychological usage let alone identity or the internet.

If someone thinks that they are a dragon or a Greek God, they should be put in a CooCoo clock for a while. "If someone thinks that they are Napolean, he's crazy, if 1 billion people pray to an imaginary friend, it's a religion."
I say "If someone thinks they're Napolian they're batshit crazy, if someone thinks that their Zoboomafoo, they're fucking batshit crazy."

If someone thinks they are a deity then they might be delusional unless of-course they are actually one in their reality.

If someone thinks they are Napoleon then they might be considering Santa Anna modeled himself in the style of Napoleon.

The terms of batshit, and fuckery have no bearing except with hipsters.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Since when has anyone argued that you should be attracted to trans people or to fat people?

People who are actual adults understand the difference between a preference and prejudice. A preference doesn't have to be prejudice, but a prejudice can be a preference.

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

Eh, I could say something about that; but then again that's his opinion and a blog.

They can argue about it, it doesn't mean I have to listen to it.

[Benuty]

Since when has anyone argued that you should be attracted to trans people or to fat people?

People who are actual adults understand the difference between a preference and prejudice. A preference doesn't have to be prejudice, but a prejudice can be a preference.

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

Source that is scholarly?

[Jumalariik]

If someone thinks that they are a dragon or a Greek God, they should be put in a CooCoo clock for a while. "If someone thinks that they are Napolean, he's crazy, if 1 billion people pray to an imaginary friend, it's a religion."
I say "If someone thinks they're Napolian they're batshit crazy, if someone thinks that their Zoboomafoo, they're fucking batshit crazy."

If someone thinks they are a deity then they might be delusional unless of-course they actually be one in their reality.

If someone thinks they are Napoleon then they might be considering Santa Anna modeled himself in the style of Napoleon.

The terms of batshit, and fuckery have no bearing except with hipsters.

No, you get my point. Only indoctrinated idjuts will actually think that it's healthy to think that you're a dragon or a monkey. This is not an overgeneralization, if that is what you believe, that is what you are, if I get accused of breaking rules, fine. If I get banned for saying that, I'll know that I would rather be somewhere else.

[Jumalariik]

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

Source that is scholarly?

Someone argued it, bottom line.

[Othelos]

Considering I fear for my life if I say 'black person' in history class or explaining my Creationist views in science class...yes, I think free speech is being suffocated by social Marxism.

1. black people call themselves black, so that's not a problem.
2. Creationism isn't factually based, so why would you explain it in science class? It doesn't follow the scientific method.
3. What that hell is 'social marxism'? Marxism is related to communism...

[Jumalariik]

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

Eh, I could say something about that; but then again that's his opinion and a blog.

They can argue about it, it doesn't mean I have to listen to it.

You asked for proof that somebody said it, that's what I did.

[Benuty]

If someone thinks they are a deity then they might be delusional unless of-course they actually be one in their reality.

If someone thinks they are Napoleon then they might be considering Santa Anna modeled himself in the style of Napoleon.

The terms of batshit, and fuckery have no bearing except with hipsters.

No, you get my point. Only indoctrinated idjuts will actually think that it's healthy to think that you're a dragon or a monkey. This is not an overgeneralization, if that is what you believe, that is what you are, if I get accused of breaking rules, fine. If I get banned for saying that, I'll know that I would rather be somewhere else.

Indoctrination requires a lengthy process which often times has nothing to do with creativity. The problem we have here is that these people have a dissonance in which they identify more with dragons or monkeys rather than their own kind.

There is nothing truly wrong with it in they express themselves in outputs which are healthy.

[Des-Bal]

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

Source that is scholarly?[/quote]

The question was "Since when has anyone argued that you should be attracted to trans people or to fat people"

The source suggests that it is in fact being argued by some people that you should be attracted to trans people. The question didn't require a scholarly source.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Source that is scholarly?

Someone argued it, bottom line.

I mean they have a point, a poor point, but a point.

If you're not attracted to trans women that's not transphobic in and of itself because not all men like blonde women either. If the reason you are not attracted to them is simply transphobia then yes you are transphobic.

[Jumalariik]

No, you get my point. Only indoctrinated idjuts will actually think that it's healthy to think that you're a dragon or a monkey. This is not an overgeneralization, if that is what you believe, that is what you are, if I get accused of breaking rules, fine. If I get banned for saying that, I'll know that I would rather be somewhere else.

Indoctrination requires a lengthy process which often times has nothing to do with creativity. The problem we have here is that these people have a dissonance in which they identify more with dragons or monkeys rather than their own kind.

There is nothing truly wrong with it in they express themselves in outputs which are healthy.

No, there is something mentally wrong with them, no question about it. Simple as that.

[Benuty]

http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/81930727550/is-it-ok-if-youre-cis-not-to-be-attracted-to-trans

Source that is scholarly?

The question was "Since when has anyone argued that you should be attracted to trans people or to fat people"

The source suggests that it is in fact being argued by some people that you should be attracted to trans people. The question didn't require a scholarly source.[/quote]

Broken quote box.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Eh, I could say something about that; but then again that's his opinion and a blog.

They can argue about it, it doesn't mean I have to listen to it.

You asked for proof that somebody said it, that's what I did.

I know, that doesn't mean I don't know Tumblr can argue the most asinine things either; so I probably phrased my question poorly.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Considering I fear for my life if I say 'black person' in history class or explaining my Creationist views in science class...yes, I think free speech is being suffocated by social Marxism.

1. black people call themselves black, so that's not a problem.
2. Creationism isn't factually based, so why would you explain it in science class? It doesn't follow the scientific method.
3. What that hell is 'social marxism'? Marxism is related to communism...

Marxism was associated with state atheism. An example was the Cossack Ukrainian and the Polish PDR
Everything else isn't my duty to argue, just throwing that fact out there.

[Benuty]

Indoctrination requires a lengthy process which often times has nothing to do with creativity. The problem we have here is that these people have a dissonance in which they identify more with dragons or monkeys rather than their own kind.

There is nothing truly wrong with it in they express themselves in outputs which are healthy.

No, there is something mentally wrong with them, no question about it. Simple as that.

Problem being you can only suggest they have something wrong with them. Only a professional can truly diagnose if they even have something wrong in the first place.

[Jumalariik]

Someone argued it, bottom line.

I mean they have a point, a poor point, but a point.

If you're not attracted to trans women that's not transphobic in and of itself because not all men like blonde women either. If the reason you are not attracted to them is simply transphobia then yes you are transphobic.

No. It's an idiotic point. I am not going to be attracted to someone if they don't actually have female genitals and are not actually female, if I find it out, I will no longer be attracted. That is not transphobia, I just like the idea of "real" people.

[Patridam]

So because you advocate wrong viewpoints and people call you out on it or not define populations well enough in History class now that's political correctness?

So because you advocate wrong viewpoints and people call you out on it

you advocate wrong viewpoints

wrong viewpoints

Opinions cannot be wrong, folks. They can be stupid, and the facts behind them can be wrong, but no viewpoint is wrong. Political correctness should not be a tool to hold back opposing views.

[Othelos]

1. black people call themselves black, so that's not a problem.
2. Creationism isn't factually based, so why would you explain it in science class? It doesn't follow the scientific method.
3. What that hell is 'social marxism'? Marxism is related to communism...

Marxism was associated with state atheism. An example was the Cossack Ukrainian and the Polish PDR
Everything else isn't my duty to argue, just throwing that fact out there.

I don't see how it's a proper term at all.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Indoctrination requires a lengthy process which often times has nothing to do with creativity. The problem we have here is that these people have a dissonance in which they identify more with dragons or monkeys rather than their own kind.

There is nothing truly wrong with it in they express themselves in outputs which are healthy.

No, there is something mentally wrong with them, no question about it. Simple as that.

An assumption you're making is a suggestion, not a total fact. Your denial of it also proves suggestion.

[El Fiji Grande]

It has definitely gone too far.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean they have a point, a poor point, but a point.

If you're not attracted to trans women that's not transphobic in and of itself because not all men like blonde women either. If the reason you are not attracted to them is simply transphobia then yes you are transphobic.

No. It's an idiotic point. I am not going to be attracted to someone if they don't actually have female genitals and are not actually female, if I find it out, I will no longer be attracted. That is not transphobia, I just like the idea of "real" people.

You kinda missed the whole fucking point.

Did I say they were right? No, I said that although their logic is fucked that they have a point. Like I said, a preference is not prejudice, but a prejudice can be a preference. Do you understand what that means?

[Benuty]

I mean they have a point, a poor point, but a point.

If you're not attracted to trans women that's not transphobic in and of itself because not all men like blonde women either. If the reason you are not attracted to them is simply transphobia then yes you are transphobic.

No. It's an idiotic point. I am not going to be attracted to someone if they don't actually have female genitals and are not actually female, if I find it out, I will no longer be attracted. That is not transphobia, I just like the idea of "real" people.

Someones character, personality, and the things that make them who they are < genitalia...

Really now?

That just seems absurdly illogical.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Opinions cannot be wrong, folks. They can be stupid, and the facts behind them can be wrong, but no viewpoint is wrong. Political correctness should not be a tool to hold back opposing views.

So Nazism isn't wrong? Or Stalinism? Or the viewpoint of the Khmer Rouge wasn't wrong?

Okay then.

I'm not going to sit here and point out how opinions can be wrong because opinions, if left unchecked, lead to what we see nowadays, that even fucking holocaust denialism is taken seriously. And I am not having any of that fucking noise.