What if the White House was also hit on 9/11?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

You really like to misread my intentions. The white has has been destroyed before, it will probably be destroyed again at some point in the future. Move on stop letting the terrorists win by dwelling on what happened or could have happened 13 years ago.

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

Clearly not. Clearly, remembrance and memorial is what the terrorists want us to do. We are playing right into their hands.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

You really like to misread my intentions. The white has has been destroyed before, it will probably be destroyed again at some point in the future. Move on stop letting the terrorists win by dwelling on what happened or could have happened 13 years ago.

You do realize that no-one is forcing you to take part in this thread, yes?
Also, it's worth pointing out that if everyone is misinterpreting what you're saying, the problem probably isn't them. It's you not managing to articulate your thoughts clearly.

Shocker, maybe posting just an image without any text is not a good way to express a point 100% accurately.

[Calisu]

You do realize that no-one is forcing you to take part in this thread, yes?
Also, it's worth pointing out that if everyone is misinterpreting what you're saying, the problem probably isn't them. It's you not managing to articulate your thoughts clearly.

Shocker, maybe posting just an image without any text is not a good way to express a point 100% accurately.

Well you have a terrible track record on actually reading what my posts say as opposed to making shit up.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Shocker, maybe posting just an image without any text is not a good way to express a point 100% accurately.

Well you have a terrible track record on actually reading what my posts say as opposed to making shit up.

Right. Of course I do. Funny how everyone else drew nearly the same consensus. Clearly, the fault is ours, not you.

[Calisu]

You really like to misread my intentions. The white has has been destroyed before, it will probably be destroyed again at some point in the future. Move on stop letting the terrorists win by dwelling on what happened or could have happened 13 years ago.

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

[Dyakovo]

Well you have a terrible track record on actually reading what my posts say as opposed to making shit up.

Right. Of course I do. Funny how everyone else drew nearly the same consensus. Clearly, the fault is ours, not you.

We're just not smart enough to comprehend his brilliance.
*nods*

[Occupied Deutschland]

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

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What in the utter fuck are you babbling about?
Because it doesn't make sense.

Anyhow, it'd be another big symbol. Bush obviously wasn't there, I doubt Cheney was, so there would have been some shake-up in the administration but not a massive change in leadership.

[Calisu]

Well you have a terrible track record on actually reading what my posts say as opposed to making shit up.

Right. Of course I do. Funny how everyone else drew nearly the same consensus. Clearly, the fault is ours, not you.

yet you're the only one who made baseless claims.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

We used the unwarranted attack and massacre of our innocent people to bring the perpetrators to justice. Clearly we are wrong.

And...seriously? Wait...you're serious? The plane flying into the Empire State was not an act of aggression against the US. It was a fucking accident. Not in anyway comparable.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

...
What in the utter fuck are you babbling about?
Because it doesn't make sense.

Excellent question. Perhaps you will have better luck figuring that out that everyone else on here.

[The Sotoan Union]

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

We retaliated after 9/11. We also retaliated after the British burned the White House.

I'm pretty sure Americans kept killing British soldiers after that, just like how we killed Taliban soldiers.

[Stormwind-City]

And even if he wasn't, the Secret Service make a point of never having all the presidential eggs in one basket.

Exactly. The Speaker of the House (who'd become the President following the death of the VP and POTUS) is almost never at the White House.

Was looking at POTUS succession line and apparently the Sec. Of Interior was born in the UK. Learn something everyday.

[The Predator Federation]

It wouldn't An F-15C Eagle or F-16C Falcon would be scrambled and in the air by the time it reached Washington D.C. Also then we would fight harder and be angrier than we were already.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

[Calimera II]

what are they gonna do? invade four countries instead?

Not funny at all.

[Alyakia]

what are they gonna do? invade four countries instead?

Not funny at all.

then answer my question.

[Calimera II]

Not funny at all.

then answer my question.

You anti-Americanism is laughable.

[Alyakia]

then answer my question.

You anti-Americanism is laughable.

i'm not sure how you can twist that into anti-americanism, considering it's not that controversial at all. you must be desperate.

[Allet Klar Chefs]

Probably would've had to build a new one.

[Nazi Flower Power]

I don't think it would have mattered except for being one more image people could use in propaganda and memorials, and providing work for some construction workers during the repairs. 9/11 was already a big deal, it already got the US a lot of international sympathy, and there already was immense popular support for the war in Afghanistan. I am not a militaristic person, but I still understood on 9/11 as soon as I heard about the attacks, that it was likely to start a war. It wasn't something the US could just allow to pass. The high death toll from the towers always mattered more than the symbolic significance of the Pentagon being hit. An attack on the White House would be more of a symbolic thing like the one at the Pentagon rather than getting people outraged for humanitarian reasons.

The only reason the war in Iraq was controversial is because a lot of people (myself included) didn't see a strong enough connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11. Making 9/11 worse would not change this.

[Greater Weselton]

They would have rebuilt it. It already was burned during the War of 1812.

[Dracoria]

Sure. But they didn't have airplanes in the 1800s. So I dunno what part of history you think people are ignoring.

Yes they did, and how hard is it to understand most American's ignore the white house being destroyed?

Somehow, I don't feel hot air balloons or primitive gliders being flown into buildings will cause all that much damage compared to modern airliners. Heck, the balloons could probably just be shot down or caught with thrown ropes or chains, assuming they didn't drift in entirely the wrong direction out to sea.

As for most Americans ignoring the White House being destroyed, it really wasn't. The shell was in fairly good shape, though it had been gutted. It was rebuilt, painted white to hide the scorchmarks. It was also 200 years ago and performed by former enemies who have been allies for the better part of a century, so what's to be angry about?

For sure, though having the White House destroyed would have made a very powerful image and such as well.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/07/article-2414528-0912000E000005DC-910_636x452.jpg

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but that looks more like the Capitol Building than the White House to me? Even as they appeared in 1814.

Compare paintings of the shells following the British retreat:

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Ignore what history?

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

It's 4% war score usually and a stability drop.

[America Libertaria]

Ignore what history?

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

Obviously your joking, but its still necessary to point out:
(a) It was British regulars that burned down the White House and not Canadians.
(b) Real life doesn't work like a Civ 5 game.

[Kelinfort]

then answer my question.

You anti-Americanism is laughable.

As an American, I don't find that anti-American in the slightest. Maybe in the year after the attacks, but certainly not after Bush blew our goodwill.