What if the White House was also hit on 9/11?

[Dracoria]

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

Obviously your joking, but its still necessary to point out:
(a) It was British regulars that burned down the White House and not Canadians.
(b) Real life doesn't work like a Civ 5 game.

Closer to Civ II. We just erect a capitol building elsewhere. Hell, throw some money at it and we'll have it done next turn.

[Deltaz]

If the White House was hit on 9/11, the Afghan war would have occurred quicker

[Kelinfort]

Ignore what history?

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

It was never that way in the previous (and better ) Civs!

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

This is not a game. I don't understand how we are "letting the terrorists win" by looking back into history. Are we not supposed to study history?

There is a difference between "looking back at history" and using one moment to completely justify any action you take. No changes were made when a plane flew into the empire state building yet it was still a tragedy. People didn't forgo their freedom for security after the british attacked the americans in 1812.

What on Earth are you talking about? The case of the B-25 striking the ESB was pure accident. I don't understand what changes could have taken place as a result. Install fog lights on all skyscrapers? Perhaps. In case you didn't realize, we were all ready at war with the British. I don't support the Patriot Act either, but your argument makes no sense.

[The Orson Empire]

Ignore what history?

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

Haha, no.

War is not like a video game, where it immediately ends after you lose a mission. It doesn't work like that at all. Even someone who knows nothing about military strategy knows that the simplest thing to do if the capital is taken is to relocate the capital to a temporary location.

[The Greater Nordic Federation]

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

Obviously your joking, but its still necessary to point out:
(a) It was British regulars that burned down the White House and not Canadians.
(b) Real life doesn't work like a Civ 5 game.

(a) Still, the point applies
(b) It's Europa Universallis
(bb) true, true.

[Greater Istanistan]

We're America, we wouldn't let something as small as losing the capital stop us

Losing the capitol? No.

On the other hand, it has been proved by the recent stock market crash that losing the capital can.

Look the spelling up.


Then there would have possibly been more rage. The US invaded one country for every building knocked down, so they might have gone after Iran or Syria and ended up in an even worse spot.

[Alcase]

We're America, we wouldn't let something as small as losing the capital stop us

Losing the capitol? No.

On the other hand, it has been proved by the recent stock market crash that losing the capital can.

Look the spelling up.


Then there would have possibly been more rage. The US invaded one country for every building knocked down, so they might have gone after Iran or Syria and ended up in an even worse spot.

Capital, in American English, has two meanings. One is the center of government for a nation, and the other is (basically) money.

[Greater Istanistan]

I was sure it just had the one.

You learn something every day, I guess. Thanks!

[Syonanto]

Losing the capitol? No.

On the other hand, it has been proved by the recent stock market crash that losing the capital can.

Look the spelling up.


Then there would have possibly been more rage. The US invaded one country for every building knocked down, so they might have gone after Iran or Syria and ended up in an even worse spot.

Capital, in American English, has two meanings. One is the center of government for a nation, and the other is (basically) money.

Paying attention to different dialects of the English language? Why that's a capital idea!

On topic, I don't think it would have changed the overall course of events very much.

[Greater Istanistan]

Oh, wait. American English.

Heh. I'm Canadian. I get away with things.

I'd tend to agree on that, although exploding the White House would have a bigger impact. Al-Quaedahad already struck a symbol of America's economic power (the WTC) and military might (the Pentagon, regardless of how unsuccessful that was). If they'd completed that trio and managed to pretty much annihilate the greatest symbol of the American government's power and one of the abiding icons of global democracy, then it would have had a much bigger psychological and social impact.

[Dracoria]

Oh, wait. American English.

Heh. I'm Canadian. I get away with things.

I'd tend to agree on that, although exploding the White House would have a bigger impact. Al-Quaedahad already struck a symbol of America's economic power (the WTC) and military might (the Pentagon, regardless of how unsuccessful that was). If they'd completed that trio and managed to pretty much annihilate the greatest symbol of the American government's power and one of the abiding icons of global democracy, then it would have had a much bigger psychological and social impact.

If they really wanted to hit a symbol Americans cared about, they'd have hit the Statue of Liberty. We'd have been REALLY pissed then.

[Alcase]

Oh, wait. American English.

Heh. I'm Canadian. I get away with things.

I'd tend to agree on that, although exploding the White House would have a bigger impact. Al-Quaedahad already struck a symbol of America's economic power (the WTC) and military might (the Pentagon, regardless of how unsuccessful that was). If they'd completed that trio and managed to pretty much annihilate the greatest symbol of the American government's power and one of the abiding icons of global democracy, then it would have had a much bigger psychological and social impact.

If they really wanted to hit a symbol Americans cared about, they'd have hit the Statue of Liberty. We'd have been REALLY pissed then.

If they had hit the Statue of Liberty, then we'd probably just bomb the entirety of Afghanistan and (maybe) some of Pakistan.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

Oh, wait. American English.

Heh. I'm Canadian. I get away with things.

I'd tend to agree on that, although exploding the White House would have a bigger impact. Al-Quaedahad already struck a symbol of America's economic power (the WTC) and military might (the Pentagon, regardless of how unsuccessful that was). If they'd completed that trio and managed to pretty much annihilate the greatest symbol of the American government's power and one of the abiding icons of global democracy, then it would have had a much bigger psychological and social impact.

If they really wanted to hit a symbol Americans cared about, they'd have hit the Statue of Liberty. We'd have been REALLY pissed then.

If they did the Americans would have thought this (saying as an american)

" THEY SAID **** LIBERTY! WE BOMBED THEM TO THE STONE AGE"!

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Ignore what history?

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

They didn't take our capital city, they just burned the White House and pretty much left, at least, that's what I learned in school.

[Dracoria]

If they really wanted to hit a symbol Americans cared about, they'd have hit the Statue of Liberty. We'd have been REALLY pissed then.

If they did the Americans would have thought this (saying as an american)

" THEY SAID **** LIBERTY! WE BOMBED THEM TO THE STONE AGE"!

To be fair, they were halfway there to begin with.

[Farnhamia]

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

They didn't take our capital city, they just burned the White House and pretty much left, at least, that's what I learned in school.

"The Burning of Washington in 1814 was an attack during the War of 1812 between British forces and those of the United States of America. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings, including the White House and the Capitol, as well as other facilities of the U.S. government.[3] The attack was in part a retaliation to American actions in the Raid on Port Dover.

Throughout the history of the United States, the United Kingdom is the only country to have ever burned the White House or Washington, D.C., and this was the only time since the American Revolutionary War that a foreign power captured and occupied the United States capital."

So yeah, they kind of did.

[Dracoria]

They didn't take our capital city, they just burned the White House and pretty much left, at least, that's what I learned in school.

"The Burning of Washington in 1814 was an attack during the War of 1812 between British forces and those of the United States of America. On August 24, 1814, after defeating the Americans at the Battle of Bladensburg, a British force led by Major General Robert Ross occupied Washington City and set fire to many public buildings, including the White House and the Capitol, as well as other facilities of the U.S. government.[3] The attack was in part a retaliation to American actions in the Raid on Port Dover.

Throughout the history of the United States, the United Kingdom is the only country to have ever burned the White House or Washington, D.C., and this was the only time since the American Revolutionary War that a foreign power captured and occupied the United States capital."

So yeah, they kind of did.

It wasn't the Canadians, thought. It was the British. Who then fled because of a storm and tornadoes. God, or a God, perhaps George Washington according to the Capitol building's dome, was pissed.

[The Zionist Nation]

That would have been horrible.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The War of 1812, when we should have surrendered to the Canadians, I think. When the enemy captures your capitol city the war is supposed to end immediately. Everyone knows that.

They didn't take our capital city, they just burned the White House and pretty much left, at least, that's what I learned in school.

Feeling sorry for us is about the same as us might as well conceded defeat back then.

[Greater Istanistan]

So yeah, they kind of did.

You missed the most important part of this glorious and epic tale.

President Madison had barely any forewarning of the attack and had to leave so quickly to escape the Brits that he left his dinner behind. Before the White House was burned, several marauding officers found his dinner and ate it.

[James Deans]

I would be a republican if they hit the white house

[Catharcium]

Lots of people would've died, billions in damages, various artifacts lost and high-ranking officials dead (possibly even Dick Cheney if he was there at the time).

[Roski]

I'm not sure a very significant difference would happen.

The White House had already been evacuated, it would have hit an empty building for the most part.

Though you can sure as hell bet Mecca might have been glassed.

[The Rich Port]

Seeing as how both the Pentagon and the WTC have been rebuilt in one way or another, I'm sure the White House would have been fine. It's survived being attacked before, after all. It also has the spirit of Teddy Roosevelt's man-smell infecting it.

I would have been more worried if the Capitol had been attacked where, unlike the White House, people actually go to work and we might have lost a shit-ton of Congresspeople. Honestly, to me, the Capitol seems more likely to collapse, what with it's gigantic dome.

Hell, Bush wasn't even in the White House when 9/11 happened. I wonder if Al-Quada knew that...