GUN TALK (Favorite guns discussion thread)

[Telconi]

I'd prefer Berretta over Glock.

I too enjoy poorly made Italian junk

Poorly made ... *gasps* ... says the ... the Cobray fan boy ... *wheeze* ...

[Washington Resistance Army]

I too enjoy poorly made Italian junk

Poorly made ... *gasps* ... says the ... the Cobray fan boy ... *wheeze* ...

Daily reminder that you're a butthurt Californian and have never fired any MAC goodness.

[Telconi]

Poorly made ... *gasps* ... says the ... the Cobray fan boy ... *wheeze* ...

Daily reminder that you're a butthurt Californian and have never fired any MAC goodness.

Daily reminder that Franco Beretta flushes better weapons down his toilet each day than ever rolled off of a Cobray assembly line.

Also, you're only half right. I am a butthurt Californian.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Daily reminder that you're a butthurt Californian and have never fired any MAC goodness.

Daily reminder that Franco Beretta flushes better weapons down his toilet each day than ever rolled off of a Cobray assembly line.

Also, you're only half right. I am a butthurt Californian.

Revisionist lies. No good weapon has come out of Italy in at least 1,500 years.

[Nation of Warfare]

The ARX-200?

[Pax Nerdvana]

I'm planning ahead for when I'm old enough to buy a gun or two. Any advice or recommendations on a 20 GA? (Which is the only gauge of shotgun I've fired.)

[Len Hyet]

I'm planning ahead for when I'm old enough to buy a gun or two. Any advice or recommendations on a 20 GA? (Which is the only gauge of shotgun I've fired.)

My recommendation for a 20 is a 12.

[Telconi]

I'm planning ahead for when I'm old enough to buy a gun or two. Any advice or recommendations on a 20 GA? (Which is the only gauge of shotgun I've fired.)

My recommendation for a 20 is a 12.

Seconded, there's no reason for a twenty as your first shotgun.

[Pax Nerdvana]

My recommendation for a 20 is a 12.

Seconded, there's no reason for a twenty as your first shotgun.

I just said 20 'cause that and .22 arecall I've used.

[Telconi]

Seconded, there's no reason for a twenty as your first shotgun.

I just said 20 'cause that and .22 arecall I've used.

A 12 can do everything a 20 can do, and more. Up to and including firing 20 gauge shotshells.

[Len Hyet]

Seconded, there's no reason for a twenty as your first shotgun.

I just said 20 'cause that and .22 arecall I've used.

A .22 is a great first rifle for a lot of reasons. There's really no reason to start with a 20-gauge shotgun, a 12 really doesn't kick much more, but has more versatility, greater ammunition-type availability, and is more practical for pretty much everything from shooting clays up to home defense.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I just said 20 'cause that and .22 arecall I've used.

A .22 is a great first rifle for a lot of reasons. There's really no reason to start with a 20-gauge shotgun, a 12 really doesn't kick much more, but has more versatility, greater ammunition-type availability, and is more practical for pretty much everything from shooting clays up to home defense.

I've heard that before. What type of 12 GA would you guys recommend?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Daily reminder that Franco Beretta flushes better weapons down his toilet each day than ever rolled off of a Cobray assembly line.

Also, you're only half right. I am a butthurt Californian.

Revisionist lies. No good weapon has come out of Italy in at least 1,500 years.

I mean, their cannon were pretty good. The Genoese made some pretty good crossbows. Schiavona swords were pretty good, too.

[Telconi]

A .22 is a great first rifle for a lot of reasons. There's really no reason to start with a 20-gauge shotgun, a 12 really doesn't kick much more, but has more versatility, greater ammunition-type availability, and is more practical for pretty much everything from shooting clays up to home defense.

I've heard that before. What type of 12 GA would you guys recommend?

I have a Remington 870 clone, an actual Remington 870, a Winchester Model 12, a Montgomery Ward field gun (Is a Stevens I think?) And a poor poor Winchester 1897...

Of these, the Remington and clone are my favorites. While they have history, I'm not a fan of the Model 12, and the 1897 is non-functional

[Len Hyet]

A .22 is a great first rifle for a lot of reasons. There's really no reason to start with a 20-gauge shotgun, a 12 really doesn't kick much more, but has more versatility, greater ammunition-type availability, and is more practical for pretty much everything from shooting clays up to home defense.

I've heard that before. What type of 12 GA would you guys recommend?

For a first shotgun? Well the traditional recommendations are a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500. For what it's worth I'd say go with the Mossberg unless you can make sure the Remington is, oh I'd say about 10 years old or so, their quality control became garbage in the last decade (give or take).

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

I've heard that before. What type of 12 GA would you guys recommend?

I have a Remington 870 clone, an actual Remington 870, a Winchester Model 12, a Montgomery Ward field gun (Is a Stevens I think?) And a poor poor Winchester 1897...

Of these, the Remington and clone are my favorites. While they have history, I'm not a fan of the Model 12, and the 1897 is non-functional

I've got an 870 and I love it.

[Sovaal]

The ARX-200?

Never held one, but they look heavy and bulky, but I wouldn't know for sure.

[Sovaal]

Daily reminder that Franco Beretta flushes better weapons down his toilet each day than ever rolled off of a Cobray assembly line.

Also, you're only half right. I am a butthurt Californian.

Revisionist lies. No good weapon has come out of Italy in at least 1,500 years.

I've heard Benellis are pretty good.

[Yagon]

I've heard Benellis are pretty good.

Couple years ago I almost bought a Nova Shotgun, I think they are entry-level brand Benelli made.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I've heard that before. What type of 12 GA would you guys recommend?

For a first shotgun? Well the traditional recommendations are a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500. For what it's worth I'd say go with the Mossberg unless you can make sure the Remington is, oh I'd say about 10 years old or so, their quality control became garbage in the last decade (give or take).

I have actually used an 870 and an 1100 semi-auto. I liked the 870 much better. It was lighter and not as dense as the 1100.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

The ARX-200?

Never held one, but they look heavy and bulky, but I wouldn't know for sure.

It's just a little heavier than an M-16 and about 100mm shorter.

[Spreewerke]

I will have you know that my Beretta is only the finest US-made junk.

[Len Hyet]

I will have you know that my Beretta is only the finest US-made junk.

I'll be more than happy to take that off your hands

[Spreewerke]

No, it (M9) keeps my M16A2 clone nice company.

[Len Hyet]

No, it (M9) keeps my M16A2 clone nice company.

Look if it's a matter of not wanting to separate them I can assure you that I am willing to take both. Just as a favor to you.