GUN TALK (Favorite guns discussion thread)

[Aahmerica]

The M27.

Best rifle I had ever manipulated.

Can we get a link?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M27_Infa ... atic_Rifle

[Big Jim P]

Can we get a link?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M27_Infa ... atic_Rifle

Thank you.

Edit: Nice.

[Aahmerica]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M27_Infa ... atic_Rifle

Thank you.

Edit: Nice.

I had meant to write more in the last post.
I was part of a test group that phased the weapon into service.
I'd love to get my hands on one again.
Other than that I have my AR with a short stroke piston. It's pretty nice. Right now I'm in the market for a handgun. Maybe a .38 snubby, I want something more concealable than my glock.

[Big Jim P]

Thank you.

Edit: Nice.

I had meant to write more in the last post.
I was part of a test group that phased the weapon into service.
I'd love to get my hands on one again.
Other than that I have my AR with a short stroke piston. It's pretty nice. Right now I'm in the market for a handgun. Maybe a .38 snubby, I want something more concealable than my glock.

In September I will be in the market for several (quite a few actually) handguns and rifles, including an AR. I rather liked my M-16, but cannot afford a civilian-legal one.

[Yukonastan]

I had meant to write more in the last post.
I was part of a test group that phased the weapon into service.
I'd love to get my hands on one again.
Other than that I have my AR with a short stroke piston. It's pretty nice. Right now I'm in the market for a handgun. Maybe a .38 snubby, I want something more concealable than my glock.

In September I will be in the market for several (quite a few actually) handguns and rifles, including an AR. I rather liked my M-16, but cannot afford a civilian-legal one.

It's a $50 piece of metal with a $20 000 piece of paper saying that that specific piece of metal is legal, no?

[Cymrea]

In September I will be in the market for several (quite a few actually) handguns and rifles, including an AR. I rather liked my M-16, but cannot afford a civilian-legal one.

It's a $50 piece of metal with a $20 000 piece of paper saying that that specific piece of metal is legal, no?

It's not just the metal itself, it's how it's tempered and shaped, milled and bored, designed and assembled. What makes a military weapon legal on civvy street, I'm not sure; maybe the number or type of rounds it can fire. I don't think automatic weapons are civvy-legal - though with the NRA, you could probably hunt ducks with anti-air missiles, who knows?

[Big Jim P]

It's a $50 piece of metal with a $20 000 piece of paper saying that that specific piece of metal is legal, no?

It's not just the metal itself, it's how it's tempered and shaped, milled and bored, designed and assembled. What makes a military weapon legal on civvy street, I'm not sure; maybe the number or type of rounds it can fire. I don't think automatic weapons are civvy-legal - though with the NRA, you could probably hunt ducks with anti-air missiles, who knows?

What makes it civvie legal? being manufactured before 1986 and the civvie in question jumping through a shit-ton of hurdles and paying out the ass.

[Big Jim P]

In September I will be in the market for several (quite a few actually) handguns and rifles, including an AR. I rather liked my M-16, but cannot afford a civilian-legal one.

It's a $50 piece of metal with a $20 000 piece of paper saying that that specific piece of metal is legal, no?

More like a $500-2000 peice of metal with about an $8000-10000 piece of paper.

[Cymrea]

It's not just the metal itself, it's how it's tempered and shaped, milled and bored, designed and assembled. What makes a military weapon legal on civvy street, I'm not sure; maybe the number or type of rounds it can fire. I don't think automatic weapons are civvy-legal - though with the NRA, you could probably hunt ducks with anti-air missiles, who knows?

What makes it civvie legal? being manufactured before 1986 and the civvie in question jumping through a shit-ton of hurdles and paying out the ass.

Noted. But that M27 is sexy....

[Aahmerica]

What makes it civvie legal? being manufactured before 1986 and the civvie in question jumping through a shit-ton of hurdles and paying out the ass.

Noted. But that M27 is sexy....

Oh it is.
one can get the proper licenses for military grade type firearms. But for your standard issue civie anything that is automatic or burst is typically illegal to own.

[Cymrea]

Noted. But that M27 is sexy....

Oh it is.
one can get the proper licenses for military grade type firearms. But for your standard issue civie anything that is automatic or burst is typically illegal to own.

I dont need full auto - though the three-round burst is pretty handy once your rifle is zeroed properly . Semi-automatic is sufficient.

[Romny]

Does this count?

[Aahmerica]

Oh it is.
one can get the proper licenses for military grade type firearms. But for your standard issue civie anything that is automatic or burst is typically illegal to own.

I dont need full auto - though the three-round burst is pretty handy once your rifle is zeroed properly . Semi-automatic is sufficient.

Speaking as someone with trigger time behind a few MGs, you can ssolve all problems with full auto

[Cymrea]

I dont need full auto - though the three-round burst is pretty handy once your rifle is zeroed properly . Semi-automatic is sufficient.

Speaking as someone with trigger time behind a few MGs, you can ssolve all problems with full auto

.........agreed. I tried to think of some problems that couldn't, but nope.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Noted. But that M27 is sexy....

Oh it is.
one can get the proper licenses for military grade type firearms. But for your standard issue civie anything that is automatic or burst is typically illegal to own.

No, it isn't. I could, if I had the money, buy a full auto M16 (as long as it was made and registered as a full auto/select fire weapon with ATF before May 19, 1986). The problem is, a civilian transferable M16 is around $20k. The paperwork takes several months or more to get back from ATF, though.

[Sevvania]

Oh it is.
one can get the proper licenses for military grade type firearms. But for your standard issue civie anything that is automatic or burst is typically illegal to own.

No, it isn't. I could, if I had the money, buy a full auto M16 (as long as it was made and registered as a full auto/select fire weapon with ATF before May 19, 1986). The problem is, a civilian transferable M16 is around $20k. The paperwork takes several months or more to get back from ATF, though.

That may be why he said "typically" illegal to own.

[Gawdzendia]

Personal favorite firearms? Time for my top 5:

[Gun Manufacturers]

No, it isn't. I could, if I had the money, buy a full auto M16 (as long as it was made and registered as a full auto/select fire weapon with ATF before May 19, 1986). The problem is, a civilian transferable M16 is around $20k. The paperwork takes several months or more to get back from ATF, though.

That may be why he said "typically" illegal to own.

But the "illegal" part is wrong.

[Independent Republic of Not My Problem]

What makes it civvie legal? being manufactured before 1986 and the civvie in question jumping through a shit-ton of hurdles and paying out the ass.

More like a $500-2000 peice of metal with about an $8000-10000 piece of paper.

Huh? What are you talking about? The piece of paper is literally $200, that's it. As for legal hurdles, well, no, not really either. If you get it as an individual it can be cumbersome to get the CLEO sign off depending where you live. If you have an NFA Trust, you just fill out your Form 4 and a copy of the Trust. 9 months later you get your approval notice and pick up your baby, 6 months if you e-file it, but that system is as reliable as healthcare.gov.

I don't know what your State's laws are concerning NFA devices, I live in Florida. BTW, how's the weather where you are?

Now a transferable M16 will be around $25k, I saw one for $16k not too long ago, so there are deals out there. As a word of advice, if the money is holding you back from getting a full auto you probably can't afford to feed it. Just get an SBR or a suppressor.

On topic, AK-103k, god I love them. I've heavily modified mine, and it's currently getting the barrel threaded to mount an AR10 Surefire muzzle brake. That way I can choose between throwing flames and the pew pew. I also don't care what people say about Tapco, as I have one of their G2 triggers in my rig and it's better than the triggers in most of the AR's I have shot.

[MERIZoC]

Some of my personal favorites.

[Korva]

if the money is holding you back from getting a full auto you probably can't afford to feed it.

That's why you get a 9mm

I remember when my dad sold his MP5k, was a sad day. He still has the briefcase though, always gets looks at gunshows but never buyers.

btw also from Florida

[Yukonastan]

Personal favorite firearms? Time for my top 5:

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Eww, smle no1. no4 (mk 1*) is far bettar-er.

[Gawdzendia]

Personal favorite firearms? Time for my top 5:

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Eww, smle no1. no4 (mk 1*) is far bettar-er.

It probably is.

I still love the No. 1 Mk. III moar though.

All SMLE's are raw sexiness, imho.

[Bundesreich Mittle Frankryk]

Eww, smle no1. no4 (mk 1*) is far bettar-er.

It probably is.

I still love the No. 1 Mk. III moar though.

All SMLE's are raw sexiness, imho.

^This man knows.

[Independent Republic of Not My Problem]

if the money is holding you back from getting a full auto you probably can't afford to feed it.

That's why you get a 9mm

I remember when my dad sold his MP5k, was a sad day. He still has the briefcase though, always gets looks at gunshows but never buyers.

btw also from Florida

Normally I'd counter with get a .22lr, but these days, anything in 7.62x39. Thanks to Mr. Putin, it is still dirt cheap.

BTW, aint Florida great? We have freedom, sunshine, and beautiful weather all year round.