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Postby Sovaal » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:13 pm

Spreewerke wrote:This is a thread for not-political discussion.

So in order to return to that narrative, I have decided I am going to replace my AimPoint Micro H1 on my SBR with an EOTech EXPS3-0 and see which of the two I prefer. I do not like the EOTech's auto-off (although it is probably much less of an issue than I am making it out to be), the brightness adjustment, which again I can just get used to, or its battery life. However, the glass has no distortion at its edges, no tint, and the new EOTechs apparently do not experience any parallax issues (0MOA shift) at 100m, and noticeably less parallax issues closer than that than Trijicons or even AimPoints experience. This might explain why I zeroed my lower-1/3 cowitnessed iron sights by themselves, then zeroed my AP H1 by itself, and when aiming with both, the dot is not actually aligned with the irons: parallax due to lens curvature.

We'll see how the EOTech does. It would also mean every accessory on my rifle uses CR123A batteries, so I guess that might also be considered a pro?

Have they addressed the issues with heat fluctuation shifting zero?
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:33 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:This is a thread for not-political discussion.

So in order to return to that narrative, I have decided I am going to replace my AimPoint Micro H1 on my SBR with an EOTech EXPS3-0 and see which of the two I prefer. I do not like the EOTech's auto-off (although it is probably much less of an issue than I am making it out to be), the brightness adjustment, which again I can just get used to, or its battery life. However, the glass has no distortion at its edges, no tint, and the new EOTechs apparently do not experience any parallax issues (0MOA shift) at 100m, and noticeably less parallax issues closer than that than Trijicons or even AimPoints experience. This might explain why I zeroed my lower-1/3 cowitnessed iron sights by themselves, then zeroed my AP H1 by itself, and when aiming with both, the dot is not actually aligned with the irons: parallax due to lens curvature.

We'll see how the EOTech does. It would also mean every accessory on my rifle uses CR123A batteries, so I guess that might also be considered a pro?

Have they addressed the issues with heat fluctuation shifting zero?


Honestly, I've used the HWS for years now and not once have I ever noticed a shifting zero.

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Postby The Remote Islands » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:59 pm

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Postby Free-Don » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:37 pm

The Remote Islands wrote:(Image)


WTF man?!

Why skimp out on a wooden ram rod? They replaced as soon as any decent trooper could get a hand on a Prussian made iron rod. How will you else will you achieve any more than 4 rounds a minute.

Also what's with that unpoliced wire hanging off the laser pointer? How can you properly fire information with that thing hanging off?

Literally unusable.

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Postby The Remote Islands » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:42 pm

You just aren't seeing it, man. Maybe if you were a time-traveling pirate, you might see the real ultimate power of this ultra-deadly weapon.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:49 pm

The Remote Islands wrote:You just aren't seeing it, man. Maybe if you were a time-traveling pirate, you might see the real ultimate power of this ultra-deadly weapon.


This is why I don't do Bath Salts.

At any rate, still toying around with the idea of legally bypassing the stupid fucking hunting laws in my new state, which only allow "Black powder/Muzzle loading" rifles and not more practical modern cartridges, due to "hunter safety" bullshit. Thinking of doing so, by buying a Sharps rifle and hand loading paper patch cartridges for it, which as far as I can tell via Googlefu research, should meet all the legal definitions while allowing me to use a more practical and reliable round.

Maybe I've just had too much free time to think stuff up lately. :p

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:03 am

Free-Don wrote:
The Remote Islands wrote:(Image)


WTF man?!

Also what's with that unpoliced wire hanging off the laser pointer? How can you properly fire information with that thing hanging off?

That's the wire for the remote pressure sensor. P. much allowing the pirate to click the laser with the hand that kinda already is on the gun.

Thus freeing his hook-hand for use as a war-scythe.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:00 am

The Remote Islands wrote:(Image)

I for one would rather have a percussion revolver. Remington would be nice. Like to see you space pirates take my ship then.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Free-Don » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:26 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Free-Don wrote:
WTF man?!

Also what's with that unpoliced wire hanging off the laser pointer? How can you properly fire information with that thing hanging off?

That's the wire for the remote pressure sensor. P. much allowing the pirate to click the laser with the hand that kinda already is on the gun.

Thus freeing his hook-hand for use as a war-scythe.



Tie that shit down. Before John Miller's bayonet gets caught on that shit and topples over the whole formation. Reducing the section's fighting capabilities to that of a pigmy tribe of inbred half elves.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:51 pm

The Remote Islands wrote:(Image)


When you know your flintlock pistol is shit, so you add scope and laser in hopes of increasing it's accuracy.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:36 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
The Remote Islands wrote:(Image)


When you know your flintlock pistol is shit, so you add scope and laser in hopes of increasing it's accuracy.

Must be like how racing stripes and flame decals add horsepower to any car.
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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:58 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
When you know your flintlock pistol is shit, so you add scope and laser in hopes of increasing it's accuracy.

Must be like how racing stripes and flame decals add horsepower to any car.

All about them stats, man. Haven't played video games before? :p

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Postby Len Hyet » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:29 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
The Remote Islands wrote:You just aren't seeing it, man. Maybe if you were a time-traveling pirate, you might see the real ultimate power of this ultra-deadly weapon.


This is why I don't do Bath Salts.

At any rate, still toying around with the idea of legally bypassing the stupid fucking hunting laws in my new state, which only allow "Black powder/Muzzle loading" rifles and not more practical modern cartridges, due to "hunter safety" bullshit. Thinking of doing so, by buying a Sharps rifle and hand loading paper patch cartridges for it, which as far as I can tell via Googlefu research, should meet all the legal definitions while allowing me to use a more practical and reliable round.

Maybe I've just had too much free time to think stuff up lately. :p

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:43 pm

Free-Don wrote:
The Remote Islands wrote:(Image)


WTF man?!

Why skimp out on a wooden ram rod? They replaced as soon as any decent trooper could get a hand on a Prussian made iron rod. How will you else will you achieve any more than 4 rounds a minute.

Also what's with that unpoliced wire hanging off the laser pointer? How can you properly fire information with that thing hanging off?

Literally unusable.


Wooden ramrods were pretty standard on naval issue muzzle loaders. Stops it rusting to the hoops in storage.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:45 pm

I tried the Sig 320. I-is it possible we didn't chose a total piece of shit for once? I know about the recall issues.

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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:43 am

Sovaal wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:This is a thread for not-political discussion.

So in order to return to that narrative, I have decided I am going to replace my AimPoint Micro H1 on my SBR with an EOTech EXPS3-0 and see which of the two I prefer. I do not like the EOTech's auto-off (although it is probably much less of an issue than I am making it out to be), the brightness adjustment, which again I can just get used to, or its battery life. However, the glass has no distortion at its edges, no tint, and the new EOTechs apparently do not experience any parallax issues (0MOA shift) at 100m, and noticeably less parallax issues closer than that than Trijicons or even AimPoints experience. This might explain why I zeroed my lower-1/3 cowitnessed iron sights by themselves, then zeroed my AP H1 by itself, and when aiming with both, the dot is not actually aligned with the irons: parallax due to lens curvature.

We'll see how the EOTech does. It would also mean every accessory on my rifle uses CR123A batteries, so I guess that might also be considered a pro?

Have they addressed the issues with heat fluctuation shifting zero?


That was blown out of proportion, but to my understanding, the 2017-production EOTechs have solved all issues associated with the L3 HWS series.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:29 am

In keeping with the use of 9mm now, I have decided to look into buying a Kel-Tec SUB-2000

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:15 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
This is why I don't do Bath Salts.

At any rate, still toying around with the idea of legally bypassing the stupid fucking hunting laws in my new state, which only allow "Black powder/Muzzle loading" rifles and not more practical modern cartridges, due to "hunter safety" bullshit. Thinking of doing so, by buying a Sharps rifle and hand loading paper patch cartridges for it, which as far as I can tell via Googlefu research, should meet all the legal definitions while allowing me to use a more practical and reliable round.

Maybe I've just had too much free time to think stuff up lately. :p

In what godforsaken place do you live?


Hell.

But they spell it "MA" here....

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Postby Sovaal » Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:52 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:In what godforsaken place do you live?


Hell.

But they spell it "MA" here....

So how do they feel about black powder cartridges?
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Puzikas » Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:18 pm

Spreewerke wrote:That was blown out of proportion, but to my understanding, the 2017-production EOTechs have solved all issues associated with the L3 HWS series.


Oh, WAY out of proportion.

If you leave your patrol rifle in your trunk in 110° weather for hours, it gets hot. Wow!
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:47 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:In what godforsaken place do you live?


Hell.

But they spell it "MA" here....

...

well that's what I get for only hunting in Maine and not bothering to look up my local laws

I'm in the same slice of hell
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:47 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Hell.

But they spell it "MA" here....

...

well that's what I get for only hunting in Maine and not bothering to look up my local laws

I'm in the same slice of hell


Seriously, stay out of state and never try or attempt in state.

Sovaal wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Hell.

But they spell it "MA" here....

So how do they feel about black powder cartridges?


AFAIK, the same as modern cartridges. According to Healey, it's all the same.
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:41 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:...

well that's what I get for only hunting in Maine and not bothering to look up my local laws

I'm in the same slice of hell


Seriously, stay out of state and never try or attempt in state.

Sovaal wrote:So how do they feel about black powder cartridges?


AFAIK, the same as modern cartridges. According to Healey, it's all the same.

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Postby Kash Island » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:29 pm

I'm thinking of getting a Marlin 30-30 Lever action and a Remington 870 Hardwood Home Defense for my defense arms, as well as hunting(30-30)
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:40 pm

Kash Island wrote:I'm thinking of getting a Marlin 30-30 Lever action and a Remington 870 Hardwood Home Defense for my defense arms, as well as hunting(30-30)

I'll tell you what I tell my friends when they say something like this.

Friends: imma thinking about getting these two or more firearms.
ME: Yep, I suggest you buy them, then.
Friends: Great I'll be right back, going to Academy sports.
ME: See you at the range in 30mins. :)

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