GUN TALK (Favorite guns discussion thread)

[Washington Resistance Army]

Lets stop with all the garbage spam.

Speaking of garbage spam, any one interested in homemade firearms?

I most certainly am. Some of the things they cook up in places like Brazil are great.

Also these pretty high quality M-10's from Australia.

[Sovaal]

Speaking of garbage spam, any one interested in homemade firearms?

I most certainly am. Some of the things they cook up in places like Brazil are great.

Also these pretty high quality M-10's from Australia.

Hah! Gun control my ass.

[The Two Jerseys]

I most certainly am. Some of the things they cook up in places like Brazil are great.

Also these pretty high quality M-10's from Australia.

Hah! Gun control my ass.

Criminals going to extraordinary lengths to get banned weapons? I'm shocked and appalled!

[Almost Nothing Outlawed Here]

If I am to say what my favorite gun is, it is the cannon that shoots out paper advertisements as to how McDonald's is forever better than Burger King.

I call it the Ronald Mk-22

[Sovaal]

Hah! Gun control my ass.

Criminals going to extraordinary lengths to get banned weapons? I'm shocked and appalled!

It's almost as if though guns are relatively simple to make!

[Washington Resistance Army]

I most certainly am. Some of the things they cook up in places like Brazil are great.

Also these pretty high quality M-10's from Australia.

Hah! Gun control my ass.

I'm just impressed by how high quality they are for being homemade. They aren't factory quality but they're getting pretty close.

[Sovaal]

Hah! Gun control my ass.

I'm just impressed by how high quality they are for being homemade. They aren't factory quality but they're getting pretty close.

What's really impressed me is that there are liokely actual factories in the balkans making MPs exclusively for the European black market.

[The Two Jerseys]

Criminals going to extraordinary lengths to get banned weapons? I'm shocked and appalled!

It's almost as if though guns are relatively simple to make!

I've heard that Von Dutch (the actual guy) would make homemade guns without even using precision measuring tools, that's how good of a machinist he was.

[Sovaal]

It's almost as if though guns are relatively simple to make!

I've heard that Von Dutch (the actual guy) would make homemade guns without even using precision measuring tools, that's how good of a machinist he was.

Damn. I f I do that, I'm gonna start off small, like a rolling block or something.

[Husseinarti]

Lets stop with all the garbage spam.

Whats really sad is that its someone's attempt to fit in here.

[Sovaal]

So does anyone have any sources one could look at for mauser variants?

[Yagon]

I'm reading vast conflicting info on whether its okay to use steel cased ammo in an AR.

Generally so far it seems to be that modern steel cased stuff isn't lacquered, but the old lacquered stuff did cause problems. I've also heard that it depends on the individual piece.

Any of you had good/bad experience with modern steel ammo through a new AR?

[Sovaal]

I'm reading vast conflicting info on whether its okay to use steel cased ammo in an AR.

Generally so far it seems to be that modern steel cased stuff isn't lacquered, but the old lacquered stuff did cause problems. I've also heard that it depends on the individual piece.

Any of you had good/bad experience with modern steel ammo through a new AR?

I've never really used it all that much, but when i did they usually didn't wan't to cycle properly.

[Yagon]

I'm reading vast conflicting info on whether its okay to use steel cased ammo in an AR.

Generally so far it seems to be that modern steel cased stuff isn't lacquered, but the old lacquered stuff did cause problems. I've also heard that it depends on the individual piece.

Any of you had good/bad experience with modern steel ammo through a new AR?

I've never really used it all that much, but when i did they usually didn't wan't to cycle properly.

Hrm, that report seems to be common. May I ask, was this older stuff, or relatively recently acquired steel case? (Meaning, was it lacquered?)

[Hurtful Thoughts]

I'm reading vast conflicting info on whether its okay to use steel cased ammo in an AR.

Generally so far it seems to be that modern steel cased stuff isn't lacquered, but the old lacquered stuff did cause problems. I've also heard that it depends on the individual piece.

Any of you had good/bad experience with modern steel ammo through a new AR?

I've never really used it all that much, but when i did they usually didn't wan't to cycle properly.

Pretty much reverts all modern AR-15s into M-16 SP1 jam-o-matic death-traps not so much from material-issues (although the relatively tiny rim isn't helping) as from non-optimal powder-loads that would (likely) require re-tuning the entire system.

This problem was also semi-common on the Huldra 5.45x39 uppers, a piston-driven AR that was geared towards upper-end pressure-loads and running with a suppressor-can attached. So old spam-can ammo from an A2 muzzle brake = undergassed to the max. Add lacquer-buildup and corrossion-welding of the piston from improper cleaning... It got such a poor internet-reputation that they discontinued sales before I could get one for myself.

Least that's my understanding of it.

[Yagon]

Pretty much reverts all modern AR-15s into M-16 SP1 jam-o-matic death-traps not so much from material-issues (although the relatively tiny rim isn't helping) as from non-optimal powder-loads that would (likely) require re-tuning the entire system.

This problem was also semi-common on the Huldra 5.45x39 uppers, a piston-driven AR that was geared towards upper-end pressure-loads and running with a suppressor-can attached. So old spam-can ammo from an A2 muzzle brake = undergassed to the max. Add lacquer-buildup and corrossion-welding of the piston from improper cleaning... It got such a poor internet-reputation that they discontinued sales before I could get one for myself.

Hmmm.....so if I'm following you, the steel cased .223 might still be okay in a .223 bolt action rifle? (Unrelated to my original question, which was to AR's, sorry to switch tracks)

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Pretty much reverts all modern AR-15s into M-16 SP1 jam-o-matic death-traps not so much from material-issues (although the relatively tiny rim isn't helping) as from non-optimal powder-loads that would (likely) require re-tuning the entire system.

This problem was also semi-common on the Huldra 5.45x39 uppers, a piston-driven AR that was geared towards upper-end pressure-loads and running with a suppressor-can attached. So old spam-can ammo from an A2 muzzle brake = undergassed to the max. Add lacquer-buildup and corrossion-welding of the piston from improper cleaning... It got such a poor internet-reputation that they discontinued sales before I could get one for myself.

Hmmm.....so if I'm following you, the steel cased .223 might still be okay in a .223 bolt action rifle? (Unrelated to my original question, which was to AR's, sorry to switch tracks)

Seems that way.

Steel cased corrosive ammo used to be a common thing with every military cartridge besides the .303 (which had huge stockpiles, because british empire) and 'Merricuh. IIRC, the French FAMAS used steel-cased .223 and chewed through that stuff just fine enough to be regarded as just as reliable as any AK (although this is compared to the SA80A1).

[Yagon]

Seems that way.

Steel cased corrosive ammo used to be a common thing with every military cartridge besides the .303 (which had huge stockpiles, because british empire) and 'Merricuh. IIRC, the French FAMAS used steel-cased .223 and chewed through that stuff just fine enough to be regarded as just as reliable as any AK (although this is compared to the SA80A1).

Hmmmm....was using steel case an original design parameter for the FAMAS?

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Seems that way.

Steel cased corrosive ammo used to be a common thing with every military cartridge besides the .303 (which had huge stockpiles, because british empire) and 'Merricuh. IIRC, the French FAMAS used steel-cased .223 and chewed through that stuff just fine enough to be regarded as just as reliable as any AK (although this is compared to the SA80A1).

Hmmmm....was using steel case an original design parameter for the FAMAS?

Actually... yes. Using brass in the FAMAS actually gave the rifle problems that required a vast redesign in the G2 FAMAS.

[Yagon]

Actually... yes. Using brass in the FAMAS actually gave the rifle problems that required a vast redesign in the G2 FAMAS.

I feel terrible about it, but every time I see FAMAS I think of a French officer who talks like Maurice Chevalier (oh hoah hoah)....

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Actually... yes. Using brass in the FAMAS actually gave the rifle problems that required a vast redesign in the G2 FAMAS.

I feel terrible about it, but every time I see FAMAS I think of a French officer who talks like Maurice Chevalier (oh hoah hoah)....

I counter that with picturing it firing an AC-58 at the rear of an ISIS T-55.
(or a padnakish battle-bus)

[Yagon]

I counter that with picturing it firing an AC-58 at the rear of an ISIS T-55.
(or a padnakish battle-bus)

Guy around where I live makes rubber replicas of rifle grenades that can be fired with blanks off of an AR-15. I wanted to get one to shoot at 45 degrees up for my dog to chase, but I think she'd chew it apart and I'd only get one use out of it.

[Melon feud]

Bayonet mount? Well, if you want me to load up the gun with all of the swords you can find (and stick them together), I guess so!

Also, in my "Empire," 800mm ammo would not be expensive, as my currency is made of bones, and bones are quite easy to obtain.

?

[Melon feud]

Lets stop with all the garbage spam.

Whats really sad is that its someone's attempt to fit in here.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm reading vast conflicting info on whether its okay to use steel cased ammo in an AR.

Generally so far it seems to be that modern steel cased stuff isn't lacquered, but the old lacquered stuff did cause problems. I've also heard that it depends on the individual piece.

Any of you had good/bad experience with modern steel ammo through a new AR?

Most of the steel ammo I've ever fired hasn't really had problems.