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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:56 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:That thing is just one tax stamp away...


Plus having one rebuilt. I don't think the allies left either one/any intact.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:06 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:That thing is just one tax stamp away...


Plus having one rebuilt. I don't think the allies left either one/any intact.


Could you imagine being the guy who had to do the paperwork for that at the NFA branch?

"800mm railway siege gun"

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:30 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Plus having one rebuilt. I don't think the allies left either one/any intact.


Could you imagine being the guy who had to do the paperwork for that at the NFA branch?

"800mm railway siege gun"

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:rofl: I would pay to see that.
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Postby Spreewerke » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:40 am

Sovaal wrote:
Yagon wrote:
I think the schtick on the SPAS-12 (and the much rarer mag fed SPAS-15) is that it can switch from pump action to semi auto.

I dunno if its true or not, but apparently the design impetus was to give LEO a weapon that could use the pump-action for less-than-lethal ammo (beanbags, rubber bungs, etc) that often didn't have enough power to properly cycle the semi auto action, and if they needed to switch to regular 12 gauge shells with semi auto, they could.

KelTec now makes an interesting shotgun that is semi auto, but has a pump action allowing it to switch between two independent feeding tubes, so you can switch ammo on the fly.

Well, most people are probably more into the looks of the gun, so getting an overfolding stock, enlarged pump, and extended mad tube should probably make "close enough".



That's like saying getting an external charging handle, wood furniture, and a piston conversion kit for an AR-15 makes it look "close enough" to an AK. No amount of Mossberg or Remington modifications will make it look remotely close to a SPAS-12.

That said, the SPAS-12 is a shotgun I have handled on two occasions. I also know a few owners who shoot theirs. They are all hype, no performance. $2k display piece since the internals can break and cause malfunctions such as firing when placed on safe. A lot of guys also don't like using them as pump-actions because doing so will ruin the heat shield's finish with the material-on-material rubbing. The fixed stocks look goofy, so no one gets those, and the popular, folding stocks absolutely suck to shoulder and fire.

If you've got $2k to spend on something that you probably won't shoot, then by all means get one. If you want a pump/semi convertible shotgun worth actually using, look into a Benelli M3.

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Postby Kyraina » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:07 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well, most people are probably more into the looks of the gun, so getting an overfolding stock, enlarged pump, and extended mad tube should probably make "close enough".



That's like saying getting an external charging handle, wood furniture, and a piston conversion kit for an AR-15 makes it look "close enough" to an AK. No amount of Mossberg or Remington modifications will make it look remotely close to a SPAS-12.

That said, the SPAS-12 is a shotgun I have handled on two occasions. I also know a few owners who shoot theirs. They are all hype, no performance. $2k display piece since the internals can break and cause malfunctions such as firing when placed on safe. A lot of guys also don't like using them as pump-actions because doing so will ruin the heat shield's finish with the material-on-material rubbing. The fixed stocks look goofy, so no one gets those, and the popular, folding stocks absolutely suck to shoulder and fire.

If you've got $2k to spend on something that you probably won't shoot, then by all means get one. If you want a pump/semi convertible shotgun worth actually using, look into a Benelli M3.

There is a reason The Spas 12 has died out in military and police use
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:43 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well, most people are probably more into the looks of the gun, so getting an overfolding stock, enlarged pump, and extended mad tube should probably make "close enough".



That's like saying getting an external charging handle, wood furniture, and a piston conversion kit for an AR-15 makes it look "close enough" to an AK. No amount of Mossberg or Remington modifications will make it look remotely close to a SPAS-12.

That said, the SPAS-12 is a shotgun I have handled on two occasions. I also know a few owners who shoot theirs. They are all hype, no performance. $2k display piece since the internals can break and cause malfunctions such as firing when placed on safe. A lot of guys also don't like using them as pump-actions because doing so will ruin the heat shield's finish with the material-on-material rubbing. The fixed stocks look goofy, so no one gets those, and the popular, folding stocks absolutely suck to shoulder and fire.

If you've got $2k to spend on something that you probably won't shoot, then by all means get one. If you want a pump/semi convertible shotgun worth actually using, look into a Benelli M3.

Saying it more as not spending Spas 12 money on a shotgun that sort looks like a SPas 12 if you squint both eyes shut.
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Postby Destructive Government Economy System » Sat Jun 10, 2017 10:44 am

Chinevion wrote:
Destructive Government Economy System wrote:(Image)

Do I even need to explain?

Yes, why would you ever want something like that, you would never be able to man it solo

This is only a basic weapon in my so-called "Empire." Though it can only fire once every 2 hours, its shells have the capability to destroy entire bunkers.

And yes, it shall be manned by one person, though my "Empire" does not actually have people in it.
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Postby Destructive Government Economy System » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:04 am

Zeclil wrote:
Destructive Government Economy System wrote:(Image)

Do I even need to explain?


A very nice gun for concealed carry, one question... does it have a bayonet mount?

On second thought, 800mm ammo is probably expensive...

Bayonet mount? Well, if you want me to load up the gun with all of the swords you can find (and stick them together), I guess so!

Also, in my "Empire," 800mm ammo would not be expensive, as my currency is made of bones, and bones are quite easy to obtain.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:05 am

Destructive Government Economy System wrote:
Zeclil wrote:
A very nice gun for concealed carry, one question... does it have a bayonet mount?

On second thought, 800mm ammo is probably expensive...

Bayonet mount? Well, if you want me to load up the gun with all of the swords you can find (and stick them together), I guess so!

Also, in my "Empire," 800mm ammo would not be expensive, as my currency is made of bones, and bones are quite easy to obtain.

?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:06 am

This is an out of character part of the forum. We talk about favorite guns and stuff irl.
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:07 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:This is an out of character part of the forum. We talk about favorite guns and stuff irl.

But what if my NS persona has taken over irl me?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:09 am

Sovaal wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:This is an out of character part of the forum. We talk about favorite guns and stuff irl.

But what if my NS persona has taken over irl me?


In that case I'll weep for you.
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Postby Hillary Clintons Ultimate Subordinate » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:11 am

Destructive Government Economy System wrote:
Zeclil wrote:
A very nice gun for concealed carry, one question... does it have a bayonet mount?

On second thought, 800mm ammo is probably expensive...

Bayonet mount? Well, if you want me to load up the gun with all of the swords you can find (and stick them together), I guess so!

Also, in my "Empire," 800mm ammo would not be expensive, as my currency is made of bones, and bones are quite easy to obtain.

Good one. For my republic, I shall follow suit and develop my favorite gun also.

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Postby Destructive Government Economy System » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:13 am

Hillary Clintons Ultimate Subordinate wrote:
Destructive Government Economy System wrote:Bayonet mount? Well, if you want me to load up the gun with all of the swords you can find (and stick them together), I guess so!

Also, in my "Empire," 800mm ammo would not be expensive, as my currency is made of bones, and bones are quite easy to obtain.

Good one. For my republic, I shall follow suit and develop my favorite gun also.

Image
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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:13 am

Hillary Clintons Ultimate Subordinate wrote:
Destructive Government Economy System wrote:Bayonet mount? Well, if you want me to load up the gun with all of the swords you can find (and stick them together), I guess so!

Also, in my "Empire," 800mm ammo would not be expensive, as my currency is made of bones, and bones are quite easy to obtain.

Good one. For my republic, I shall follow suit and develop my favorite gun also.

Image
Image

Oh look, it's you...

Also, does any one know the source of the tank with a mini cathedral on it?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:14 am

Sovaal wrote:Oh look, it's you...

Also, does any one know the source of the tank with a mini cathedral on it?


I have it on good authority that it serves the Ordo Hereticus.
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Postby Corporatia de Kim Il-Sing-a-Songa » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:17 am

Something even better than Hillary's tank.

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Postby Hillary Clintons Ultimate Subordinate » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:19 am

Corporatia de Kim Il-Sing-a-Songa wrote:Something even better than Hillary's tank.

(Image)

Hmph, how about this?

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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:19 am

Corporatia de Kim Il-Sing-a-Songa wrote:Something even better than Hillary's tank.

(Image)

Angry Birds with IEDs?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Corporatia de Kim Il-Sing-a-Songa » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:19 am

Hillary Clintons Ultimate Subordinate wrote:
Corporatia de Kim Il-Sing-a-Songa wrote:Something even better than Hillary's tank.

(Image)

Hmph, how about this?

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You win this time.

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Postby Mao Zedong and his Great Leap Forward » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:25 am

You all got it wrong. In the People's Red Apple Republic of China, THIS is our favorite gun, as it is meant for pandas. Pandas have strong teeth, look cute (meaning that they won't be targeted as often), and have relatively-high amounts of muscle, meaning that they are good soldiers, despite their lack of intelligence.

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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:26 am

Mao Zedong and his Great Leap Forward wrote:You all got it wrong. In the People's Red Apple Republic of China, THIS is our favorite gun, as it is meant for pandas. Pandas have strong teeth, look cute (meaning that they won't be targeted as often), and have relatively-high amounts of muscle, meaning that they are good soldiers, despite their lack of intelligence.

(Image)

So do you use it to massacre political dissidents?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:28 am

Lets stop with all the garbage spam.
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Postby Mao Zedong and his Great Leap Forward » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:28 am

Sovaal wrote:
Mao Zedong and his Great Leap Forward wrote:You all got it wrong. In the People's Red Apple Republic of China, THIS is our favorite gun, as it is meant for pandas. Pandas have strong teeth, look cute (meaning that they won't be targeted as often), and have relatively-high amounts of muscle, meaning that they are good soldiers, despite their lack of intelligence.

(Image)

So do you use it to massacre political dissidents?

You have high amounts of intelligence, my friend. Yes we do, although those filthy "dissenters" are almost non-existent in my country.

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Postby Sovaal » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:29 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Lets stop with all the garbage spam.

Speaking of garbage spam, any one interested in homemade firearms?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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