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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:16 pm

Telconi wrote:
Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.


Fifty medium tier ARs. Spend rest on 5.56 ammo stocks, and recruiting members into my militia.


Unrelated question, anyone able to recommend any quality surplus rifles that are semi-auto accept a detachable magazine, fire a full size cartridge, and do not have a pistol grip? Bonus points for rifle and ammo being reasily available.

Mas 49? Never owned one however.

Edit:Also, any affordable semi auto surplus rifle in a full power cartridge isn't going to have much of a after market.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:19 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Fifty medium tier ARs. Spend rest on 5.56 ammo stocks, and recruiting members into my militia.


Unrelated question, anyone able to recommend any quality surplus rifles that are semi-auto accept a detachable magazine, fire a full size cartridge, and do not have a pistol grip? Bonus points for rifle and ammo being reasily available.

Mas 49? Never owned one however.

Edit:Also, any affordable semi auto surplus rifle in a full power cartridge isn't going to have much of a after market.


Only been able to find 49/56 which is a no go.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:23 pm

Telconi wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Mas 49? Never owned one however.

Edit:Also, any affordable semi auto surplus rifle in a full power cartridge isn't going to have much of a after market.


Only been able to find 49/56 which is a no go.

Ya, 7.5 isn't as common as .308.

Are you willing to compromise on either the caliber or the action?
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:25 pm

Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.


A Ferret and a 1919.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:26 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.


A Ferret and a 1919.

What, you air cooled snobs think your to good for us water coolers? If it was good enough for the trenches, it's good enough for me!
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Telconi » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:31 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Only been able to find 49/56 which is a no go.

Ya, 7.5 isn't as common as .308.

Are you willing to compromise on either the caliber or the action?


7.5 French is fine. I'm just not allowed to have a 49/56.
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:34 pm

Telconi wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Ya, 7.5 isn't as common as .308.

Are you willing to compromise on either the caliber or the action?


7.5 French is fine. I'm just not allowed to have a 49/56.

Oh, and what about the 49/56 males so you are unable to own it over a regular 49?
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the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Telconi » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:37 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Telconi wrote:
7.5 French is fine. I'm just not allowed to have a 49/56.

Oh, and what about the 49/56 males so you are unable to own it over a regular 49?


Integral flash hider makes it an "assault weapon".

How can you not know this? It's Common Sense®
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:39 pm

Telconi wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Oh, and what about the 49/56 males so you are unable to own it over a regular 49?


Integral flash hider makes it an "assault weapon".

How can you not know this? It's Common Sense®

But it doesn't have an evil pistol grip, and it has wood! I feel so betrayed.

Also, no AW ban in either AR or KY.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Telconi » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:48 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Integral flash hider makes it an "assault weapon".

How can you not know this? It's Common Sense®

But it doesn't have an evil pistol grip, and it has wood! I feel so betrayed.

Also, no AW ban in either AR or KY.


Gotta brus up on the most recent Common Sense® there buddy. Removable mag + flash hider makes it an assault weapon. If I picked that thing up I'd go on a killing spree.

Also... Fuck... California...
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Postby Spreewerke » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:02 pm

Not sure what to tell you about the DPMS and a sling. If it were me, I'd look into replacing the railed gas block with an M16A2/M4 "A-frame" FSB and getting a normal milspec. buttstock, bare-minimum. Then you'd have a front and rear sling swivel as well as some solid iron sights.



Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.


If it can only be for one firearm and one firearm only, I would finish my SBR and night vision set-up:

  • Sentinel white-phosphor NODs ($10,000.00)
  • Wilcox L4 G29 Mount System ($750.00)
  • Engergizer helmet light ($120.00)
  • Steiner DBAL-A3 ($1,300.00)
  • Elcan SpecterDR 1-4x ($2,200.00)
  • KAC rear BUIS ($200.00)
  • SureFire Scout (DS-SR07) ($200.00)
  • SilencerCo SAKER-K 5.56 (I think I have $600.00 left to pay on it?)
  • Geissele Super Select Fire SOCOM trigger group ($420.00)
  • Registered Drop-In Auto Sear ($20,000.00)
  • LMT Enhanced bolt and carrier ($325.00)

That's just under $37,000.00, and $20,420.00 of it is if I converted it to select-fire. I guess I would just invest the rest and live off of $63,000.00 plus whatever increases it makes in investments for my gun hobby for the next several years?
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Postby Sovaal » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:23 pm

Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.

Howmuch does an M4 sherman run for nowadays?
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell
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Postby Germanic Templars » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:53 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.

Howmuch does an M4 sherman run for nowadays?


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:03 pm

Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.

Probably the dueling pistols from that killed Hamilton. I love flintlocks and add some history to it, damn sexy
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Postby Chinevion » Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:47 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.

Probably the dueling pistols from that killed Hamilton. I love flintlocks and add some history to it, damn sexy

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Just saw an ad from the good ol' Brady Campaign entitled "Ban Assault Clips." Assault clips.... huh... well I guess I can't use this anymore:

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:11 am

Zeclil wrote:Just saw an ad from the good ol' Brady Campaign entitled "Ban Assault Clips." Assault clips.... huh... well I guess I can't use this anymore:


Might as well get rid of your assault boltaction weapon there as well.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:12 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Chinevion wrote:So you get 100,000 dollars to get any gun of your choice, and modify it however you want. WHat do you get? I would get a G6 Lynx and get it modified to have the trackingpoint system integrated into it.

Probably the dueling pistols from that killed Hamilton. I love flintlocks and add some history to it, damn sexy

I heard that the possesor of the weapons will be challenged by Hamilton's ghost on the eve' of his death to a duel.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

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Postby Chinevion » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:23 am

Zeclil wrote:Just saw an ad from the good ol' Brady Campaign entitled "Ban Assault Clips." Assault clips.... huh... well I guess I can't use this anymore:


BAn assault pistols, and assault revolvers.
Also got to love the definition for an assault rifle they provide
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:26 am

Zeclil wrote:Just saw an ad from the good ol' Brady Campaign entitled "Ban Assault Clips." Assault clips.... huh... well I guess I can't use this anymore:



Well one dumbass must have bought into the "assault clip-a-zine" rhetoric.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:27 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Zeclil wrote:Just saw an ad from the good ol' Brady Campaign entitled "Ban Assault Clips." Assault clips.... huh... well I guess I can't use this anymore:



Well one dumbass must have bought into the "assault clip-a-zine" rhetoric.
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Postby Destructive Government Economy System » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:28 am

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Do I even need to explain?
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Postby Chinevion » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:33 am

Destructive Government Economy System wrote:(Image)

Do I even need to explain?

Yes, why would you ever want something like that, you would never be able to man it solo
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:35 am

Chinevion wrote:
Destructive Government Economy System wrote:(Image)

Do I even need to explain?

Yes, why would you ever want something like that, you would never be able to man it solo

Need/want is irrelevant. It's about, "because you can" and braggin' rights.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:38 am

That thing is just one tax stamp away...
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