GUN TALK (Favorite guns discussion thread)

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Are you doubting my knowledge of the War on Terror?

Actually Operation Desert Storm was 91, you said it was 03.

Well, Aug 90' to Feb 91', but Desert Shield no one gives a hoot aboot.

We commenced Desert Storm after Saddam bombed the WTC and invaded Israel, check your facts.

Question, can you use AR-15 uppers on M4s?

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

Someone needs to make a minigun that fires 950.JDJ.

Really, what if we invented an incendiary/explosive-tipped .950 JDJ?

The military could have a use for their rifles as a sort of long-range grenade launcher.

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

I don’t know how long he was in the military, he said it was an M4 and that he bought it before he got out. AR-15 or not, I still had a fun time.

The military isn't in the habit of selling soldiers their weapons. Likely you shot an AR built to look like an M4. My Bushmaster is one of them. I personally prefer the A1 or A2 look.

Don’t make me fanboy over the A2/A3 again.

[Len Hyet]

Actually Operation Desert Storm was 91, you said it was 03.

Well, Aug 90' to Feb 91', but Desert Shield no one gives a hoot aboot.

We commenced Desert Storm after Saddam bombed the WTC and invaded Israel, check your facts.

Operation Desert Storm, commenced 17 January, ended 28 February 1991

[The Empire of Pretantia]

We commenced Desert Storm after Saddam bombed the WTC and invaded Israel, check your facts.

Operation Desert Storm, commenced 17 January, ended 28 February 1991

Anyone can edit those things, you know?

[Granluras]

If there’s one gun I inspire to own its the bad boy that fires the .950 JDJ

[Germanic Templars]

Actually Operation Desert Storm was 91, you said it was 03.

Well, Aug 90' to Feb 91', but Desert Shield no one gives a hoot aboot.

We commenced Desert Storm after Saddam bombed the WTC and invaded Israel, check your facts.

Question, can you use AR-15 uppers on M4s?

Lemme quote you:

>First M4 was made in 94
>Desert Storm was 03
>M4 wouldn't be legal to own unless you built a time machine

Operation: Desert Storm (Gulf War) 1990/8/2
War on Terror 2001/9/11

Please fact check before you post. The main focus of Gulf War (and Operation: Desert Sabre) was the fact Saddam didn't pull out of Kuwait in the allotted time given to him.

As for WTC, that happened in 1993., Assuming we are not talking about 2001 9/11 attacks.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

We commenced Desert Storm after Saddam bombed the WTC and invaded Israel, check your facts.

Question, can you use AR-15 uppers on M4s?

Lemme quote you:

>First M4 was made in 94
>Desert Storm was 03
>M4 wouldn't be legal to own unless you built a time machine

Operation: Desert Storm (Gulf War) 1990/8/2
War on Terror 2001/9/11

Please fact check before you post. The main focus of Gulf War (and Operation: Desert Sabre) was the fact Saddam didn't pull out of Kuwait in the allotted time given to him.

As for WTC, that happened in 1993., Assuming we are not talking about 2001 9/11 attacks.

Faked articles by the Conservoliberal cryptomedia.

[Germanic Templars]

Lemme quote you:


Operation: Desert Storm (Gulf War) 1990/8/2
War on Terror 2001/9/11

Please fact check before you post. The main focus of Gulf War (and Operation: Desert Sabre) was the fact Saddam didn't pull out of Kuwait in the allotted time given to him.

As for WTC, that happened in 1993., Assuming we are not talking about 2001 9/11 attacks.

Faked articles by the Conservoliberal cryptomedia.

.....You motherfucker... You baited.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Faked articles by the Conservoliberal cryptomedia.

.....You motherfucker... You baited.

The initial post was an honest mistake, the rest was a joke.

I do like that term though. Cryptomedia. Sounds so sinister.

[Pax Nerdvana]

The military isn't in the habit of selling soldiers their weapons. Likely you shot an AR built to look like an M4. My Bushmaster is one of them. I personally prefer the A1 or A2 look.

Don’t make me fanboy over the A2/A3 again.

I like the looks of the M16 more than the M4 personally. It just has that Cold War vibe.

[Germanic Templars]

One of these parts are not like the other

[The Empire of Pretantia]

One of these parts are not like the other

Goddamn, I want one now.

Don’t make me fanboy over the A2/A3 again.

I like the looks of the M16 more than the M4 personally. It just has that Cold War vibe.

I like dat A1.

[Pax Nerdvana]

One of these parts are not like the other

Goddamn, I want one now.

I like the looks of the M16 more than the M4 personally. It just has that Cold War vibe.

I like dat A1.

'Specially with the M203 and bayonet.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

One of these parts are not like the other

Bad news though:

Since the belt-feed is self-contailed in the upper, it is considered its own firearm for some reason.

[Monfrox]

One of these parts are not like the other

Bad news though:

Since the belt-feed is self-contailed in the upper, it is considered its own firearm for some reason.

Ah yes. Reminds me of one of the guys I know who's trying to make a semi-auto MG42 and a semi-auto DP-28.

My boss says to him "I want no part in your trip to Leavenworth".

[Spreewerke]

That's not how that works.

That is how it works though. Century Arms imports Russian weapons, takes them to a customs neutral warehouse, and replaces all the main important parts with American made parts. Namely the receiver and trigger grouping and things like that. That's how they can get around the import ban. Because technically to the ATF, the trigger grouping and receiver are the "firearm" part and so as long as those are made in America and on the gun, then it's fine.

Let's go point by point.

Century Arms imports Russian weapons

Wrong.

takes them to a customs neutral warehouse

Wrong.

replaces all the main important parts with American made parts. Namely the receiver and trigger groupings and things like that.

Wrong.

That's how they can get around the import ban.

Wrong.

Because technically to the ATF, the trigger grouping and receiver are the "firearm" part and so as long as those are made in America and on the gun, then it's fine.

Wrong.

Literally everything you just said was wrong. This is how Century imports an AK:

First, they do not come from Russia due to sanctions against Russia. No one is importing any firearms from Russia right now. Secondly, what weapons they do get are sent straight to the United States in a "sporter" configuration as to abide by the 1989 Assault Weapons Import Ban put in place by President Bush. Third, they then replace small parts such as trigger groups (drop-in parts), muzzle devices (drop-in parts), and furniture (drop-in parts) to abide by 922(r) while having no affect on the function of the firearm. In the case of most WASRs, they also weld material onto where the bayonet lug would be (was removed per 1989 import restrictions), then reshape that metal back into a bayonet lug. The 922(r) compliance only needs to be applied to firearms they are returning to "assault weapon" configuration, and only those firearms. The receivers, barrels, and literally everything else are going to be 100% original and foreign-manufactured. The BATFE also does not consider a trigger grouping of any sort to be a firearm unless it is a registered drop-in auto sear that's being considered a machinegun for NFA purposes. The fact a firearm is built on a US receiver will also not make it no longer need to abide by 922(r) compliance guidelines.

Where are you getting all of your information? Mine comes from people in the industry.

I don’t know how long he was in the military, he said it was an M4 and that he bought it before he got out. AR-15 or not, I still had a fun time.

The military isn't in the habit of selling soldiers their weapons. Likely you shot an AR built to look like an M4. My Bushmaster is one of them. I personally prefer the A1 or A2 look.

I know a lot of former military guys that refer to basically every AR as an "M4" out of habit, to be fair.

Since I know next to nothing about guns, that may very well have been the case.

Quick way to tell the difference between an AR-15 and an M4/M16.

Is the person holding it in a military uniform?

If yes, it's an M4/M16. If no, it's an AR-15.

You sure?

https://i.imgur.com/hH3pP8D.jpg

Technically speaking, all M16s/M4s are AR-15s, but not all AR-15s are M16s/M4s. I know "AR-15" generally refers to only civilian rifles today (thanks to Colt trademarking that name for their civilian rifles), but technically speaking, the M16 and M4 series are all just very specifically-configured AR-15s.

Don’t make me fanboy over the A2/A3 again.

I like the looks of the M16 more than the M4 personally. It just has that Cold War vibe.

https://i.imgur.com/HWLcBtW.jpg

[Pax Nerdvana]

That is how it works though. Century Arms imports Russian weapons, takes them to a customs neutral warehouse, and replaces all the main important parts with American made parts. Namely the receiver and trigger grouping and things like that. That's how they can get around the import ban. Because technically to the ATF, the trigger grouping and receiver are the "firearm" part and so as long as those are made in America and on the gun, then it's fine.

Let's go point by point.

Century Arms imports Russian weapons

Wrong.

takes them to a customs neutral warehouse

Wrong.

replaces all the main important parts with American made parts. Namely the receiver and trigger groupings and things like that.

Wrong.

That's how they can get around the import ban.

Wrong.

Because technically to the ATF, the trigger grouping and receiver are the "firearm" part and so as long as those are made in America and on the gun, then it's fine.

Wrong.

Literally everything you just said was wrong. This is how Century imports an AK:

First, they do not come from Russia due to sanctions against Russia. No one is importing any firearms from Russia right now. Secondly, what weapons they do get are sent straight to the United States in a "sporter" configuration as to abide by the 1989 Assault Weapons Import Ban put in place by President Bush. Third, they then replace small parts such as trigger groups (drop-in parts), muzzle devices (drop-in parts), and furniture (drop-in parts) to abide by 922(r) while having no affect on the function of the firearm. In the case of most WASRs, they also weld material onto where the bayonet lug would be (was removed per 1989 import restrictions), then reshape that metal back into a bayonet lug. The 922(r) compliance only needs to be applied to firearms they are returning to "assault weapon" configuration, and only those firearms. The receivers, barrels, and literally everything else are going to be 100% original and foreign-manufactured. The BATFE also does not consider a trigger grouping of any sort to be a firearm unless it is a registered drop-in auto sear that's being considered a machinegun for NFA purposes. The fact a firearm is built on a US receiver will also not make it no longer need to abide by 922(r) compliance guidelines.

Where are you getting all of your information? Mine comes from people in the industry.

The military isn't in the habit of selling soldiers their weapons. Likely you shot an AR built to look like an M4. My Bushmaster is one of them. I personally prefer the A1 or A2 look.

I know a lot of former military guys that refer to basically every AR as an "M4" out of habit, to be fair.

Quick way to tell the difference between an AR-15 and an M4/M16.

Is the person holding it in a military uniform?

If yes, it's an M4/M16. If no, it's an AR-15.

You sure?

https://i.imgur.com/hH3pP8D.jpg

Technically speaking, all M16s/M4s are AR-15s, but not all AR-15s are M16s/M4s. I know "AR-15" generally refers to only civilian rifles today (thanks to Colt trademarking that name for their civilian rifles), but technically speaking, the M16 and M4 series are all just very specifically-configured AR-15s.

I like the looks of the M16 more than the M4 personally. It just has that Cold War vibe.

https://i.imgur.com/HWLcBtW.jpg

Sweet. You even have the web belts.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Quick way to tell the difference between an AR-15 and an M4/M16.

Is the person holding it in a military uniform?

If yes, it's an M4/M16. If no, it's an AR-15.

You sure?

https://i.imgur.com/hH3pP8D.jpg

No person holding it, can't tell quickly.

[Valgora]

So I was watching Jared Dines' video about ugly guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyMRMgc0Qr8

It's so stupid, that it's awesome.
I want it.

[Pax Nerdvana]

So I was watching Jared Dines' video about ugly guitars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyMRMgc0Qr8

(Image)

It's so stupid, that it's awesome.
I want it.

I agree. I love impractical weapons.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Literally the modern musket

[Pax Nerdvana]

Literally the modern musket

Yeah, definitely.

[Sovaal]

Literally the modern musket

I don’t know what’s stupider this one or that crossbow upper.

[Germanic Templars]

Got a new gun. A handgun this time, first one. A S&W 9mm