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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:09 pm

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There is a reason that the military teaches shooting.

If you try to teach a teenager gun safety, the first they're gonna do is point the gun in every direction, but the safe direction.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:26 pm

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I'm British. My exposure is limited. :P

Outside of the army stuff, I've fired a few hand guns in Denmark with my uncle, but don't ask me what they were. I've been on 2 hunting weekends with a very rich friend of mine when I used a Holland and Holland shotgun and missed everything.


H&H. I am impressed.


I wasn't. To me it was just a really front heavy gun with crap sights, I much prefer rifles. :P

But then again, I have no basis of comparison with other shotguns.

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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:01 pm

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Taihei Tengoku wrote:It wasn't that he was shooting straight up, it was that he was hitting the top of the backstop.


Well if the bullet went over the backstop (outdoor) or ricocheted (indoor) it could endanger someone.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:25 pm

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H&H. I am impressed.


I wasn't. To me it was just a really front heavy gun with crap sights, I much prefer rifles. :P

But then again, I have no basis of comparison with other shotguns.

I think I'm better with a 20 GA, than a .22.
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Postby MEVS PARVOS EQVVS » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:29 pm

Meh, these so called "gunpowder" (Pulvis pyrius) weapons are for weaklings, real men attack with the pilum and add their Strength modifier to the damage!
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:43 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
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Movies + video games.

There is a reason that the military teaches shooting.

If you try to teach a teenager gun safety, the first they're gonna do is point the gun in every direction, but the safe direction.

Not me. I got beat if I didn't do everything right. Not just safe, right.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:55 am

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H&H. I am impressed.


I wasn't. To me it was just a really front heavy gun with crap sights, I much prefer rifles. :P

But then again, I have no basis of comparison with other shotguns.


Not a shotgun fan myself. I was assuming H&H shotguns are of the same quality as their double rifles. Probably just as expensive as well.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:59 am

MEVS PARVOS EQVVS wrote:Meh, these so called "gunpowder" (Pulvis pyrius) weapons are for weaklings, real men attack with the pilum and add their Strength modifier to the damage!

Constantinople, and hence Rome, fell to gun powder weapons.

The barbarians had it right.
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:59 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Movies + video games.

There is a reason that the military teaches shooting.

If you try to teach a teenager gun safety, the first they're gonna do is point the gun in every direction, but the safe direction.


Not just teenagers. In my entire shooting life (45 years or so), I've only had one untrained person remark (about the finger off the trigger rule) "Isn't that just common sense".
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:01 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:If you try to teach a teenager gun safety, the first they're gonna do is point the gun in every direction, but the safe direction.


Not just teenagers. In my entire shooting life (45 years or so), I've only had one untrained person remark (about the finger off the trigger rule) "Isn't that just common sense".

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:21 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:If you try to teach a teenager gun safety, the first they're gonna do is point the gun in every direction, but the safe direction.


Not just teenagers. In my entire shooting life (45 years or so), I've only had one untrained person remark (about the finger off the trigger rule) "Isn't that just common sense".

What people don't know about guns and safety...
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:21 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Not just teenagers. In my entire shooting life (45 years or so), I've only had one untrained person remark (about the finger off the trigger rule) "Isn't that just common sense".

What people don't know about guns and safety...


Which is sad since there are only four basic rules. smh
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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:25 am

Len Hyet wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Not just teenagers. In my entire shooting life (45 years or so), I've only had one untrained person remark (about the finger off the trigger rule) "Isn't that just common sense".

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Booger hook off the bang switch until you're ready to send it.


Yep. When I was first teaching Roan the basics of gun safety, that was her response.

Even if she doesn't take to liking shooting, she has got the basic safety training for all firearms and any gun-specific ones. Repeated as necessary, likely to the point of irritation.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:12 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:What people don't know about guns and safety...


Which is sad since there are only four basic rules. smh

Exactly. I learned gun safety at an early age with little difficulty. If an 8 year old can manage it, a teenager should be able to.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:32 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Which is sad since there are only four basic rules. smh

Exactly. I learned gun safety at an early age with little difficulty. If an 8 year old can manage it, a teenager should be able to.


Yeah, I had independent access to a handgun not much older than 8...
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:46 am

Telconi wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Exactly. I learned gun safety at an early age with little difficulty. If an 8 year old can manage it, a teenager should be able to.


Yeah, I had independent access to a handgun not much older than 8...

I learned gun safety on a little Daisy BB pistol.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:41 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Not just teenagers. In my entire shooting life (45 years or so), I've only had one untrained person remark (about the finger off the trigger rule) "Isn't that just common sense".

nod

Booger hook off the bang switch until you're ready to send it.


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The booger hook is off the bang switch. :D

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:58 pm

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Len Hyet wrote:nod

Booger hook off the bang switch until you're ready to send it.


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The booger hook is off the bang switch. :D

Holy shit, I just realized she's pulling it out from between her vest and her FLC. Holy shit Ma'am (Or Sergeant, but frankly the insult is warranted), what are you wearing your FLC for if not to store magazines in the pouches attached to it? Are they full of candy or something? Is this some advanced technique from a shooting school to speed up reload time?

Please tell me she's only demonstrating for the audience.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:03 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Image


The booger hook is off the bang switch. :D

Holy shit, I just realized she's pulling it out from between her vest and her FLC. Holy shit Ma'am (Or Sergeant, but frankly the insult is warranted), what are you wearing your FLC for if not to store magazines in the pouches attached to it? Are they full of candy or something? Is this some advanced technique from a shooting school to speed up reload time?

Please tell me she's only demonstrating for the audience.


Where she is storing her spare magazines is not the biggest issue in that photo....

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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:08 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
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I wasn't. To me it was just a really front heavy gun with crap sights, I much prefer rifles. :P

But then again, I have no basis of comparison with other shotguns.

I think I'm better with a 20 GA, than a .22.


Definitely same.

When I went to a camp last summer, I had the treat of taking a “hunter safety” class, which is the first and currently only time I have ever fired firearms.

Was handed a single-shot Savage .22 and 5 rounds on the first day, with a bullseye a few meters away. Was the first to finish those 5 rounds, nearly had a misfire on the 3rd or 2nd round, and accuracy was that of a stormtrooper.

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Holy shit, I just realized she's pulling it out from between her vest and her FLC. Holy shit Ma'am (Or Sergeant, but frankly the insult is warranted), what are you wearing your FLC for if not to store magazines in the pouches attached to it? Are they full of candy or something? Is this some advanced technique from a shooting school to speed up reload time?

Please tell me she's only demonstrating for the audience.


Where she is storing her spare magazines is not the biggest issue in that photo....

The bigger issue is where she isn't storing her spare mags! You're not an action hero, your pouches have a purpose!
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:58 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:I think I'm better with a 20 GA, than a .22.


Definitely same.

When I went to a camp last summer, I had the treat of taking a “hunter safety” class, which is the first and currently only time I have ever fired firearms.

Was handed a single-shot Savage .22 and 5 rounds on the first day, with a bullseye a few meters away. Was the first to finish those 5 rounds, nearly had a misfire on the 3rd or 2nd round, and accuracy was that of a stormtrooper.

Third day, handed a shortened Remington 870 in 20ga.
Wasted 5 out of 9 clays like a North Korean AA gunner.

With a .22, I've gotten 42/50 points, with 10 rounds, from a bench. With both a Remington 870 and an 1100, I think I could consistently get 8-9 birds out of 10. I believe the shotguns were both full size.
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Postby Arventum » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:23 pm

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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:39 pm

Arventum wrote:My friend likes Chinese guns. I don't remember what kind, but I just wanted to tell you so you guys could fuel my embarrassment.


You shouldn’t be embarrassed. Us Asians invented firearms, we’re just as good as making them as you whiteys. (No real racism meant, lol.)

The QBZ-95 is a decent platform (one of the few bullpups that are good-looking IMO), and the QCW-05 PDW is as pretty as a Ming dynasty vase.
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Postby Arventum » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:42 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Arventum wrote:My friend likes Chinese guns. I don't remember what kind, but I just wanted to tell you so you guys could fuel my embarrassment.


You shouldn’t be embarrassed. Us Asians invented firearms, we’re just as good as making them as you whiteys. (No real racism meant, lol.)

The QBZ-95 is a decent platform (one of the few bullpups that are good-looking IMO), and the QCW-05 PDW is as pretty as a Ming dynasty vase.


Oh? Hm. Also, I'm not white :P

My friend is. He doesn't like Western firearms... and also has a thing for other exotic things.
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