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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:01 am

Telconi wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Well regardless of the potential reference. That kinda doesn't work. Politics is sort of how civilization and most societies work.


Societies work like lyin', slimy, no good snakes... See, it works just fine...

We are snaple. Heavily armed snaple
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:07 am

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:So... um... remington went bankrupt.

Who wants to call dibbs on their stuff?


I just hope someone good picks them up, Freedom Group was a disaster for Remington.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:05 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:So... um... remington went bankrupt.

Who wants to call dibbs on their stuff?


I just hope someone good picks them up, Freedom Group was a disaster for Remington.

Maybe they'll get bought out by Winchester.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:02 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I just hope someone good picks them up, Freedom Group was a disaster for Remington.

Maybe they'll get bought out by Winchester.


Winchester doesn't own Winchester...
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:18 am

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Yes. An AR15 in .223 Is an excellent beginners gun. Easy to use, relatively cheap to feed, plenty of customization options, available in more powerful chamberings if you want.

Don't forget to convert it to full auto and overthrow the government and establish anarchy! Or at the very least Marxist-Leninism.


No, that’s why the commies invented the SKS, the Dragunov, and the Kalashnikov.
The AR-15 is a weapon for real freedom fighters. Democracy, boi!
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:27 am

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Don't forget to convert it to full auto and overthrow the government and establish anarchy! Or at the very least Marxist-Leninism.


No, that’s why the commies invented the SKS, the Dragunov, and the Kalashnikov.
The AR-15 is a weapon for real freedom fighters. Democracy, boi!

How 'bout a Thompson?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:27 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
No, that’s why the commies invented the SKS, the Dragunov, and the Kalashnikov.
The AR-15 is a weapon for real freedom fighters. Democracy, boi!

How 'bout a Thompson?


Ludicrously overpriced and not worth it.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:31 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:How 'bout a Thompson?


Ludicrously overpriced and not worth it.


Also heavy as the weight of your sins.

Also oddly recoily for a .45 coming out of a fucking barbell...
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Postby Dylar » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:32 am

Can we just repeal the Firearm ban of '86?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:33 am

Dylar wrote:Can we just repeal the Firearm ban of '86?


If the GOP gave a shit they could order an amnesty for 120 (?) days and temporarily reopen the registry.

Of course they don't actually care so that's not gonna happen.
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:35 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
No, that’s why the commies invented the SKS, the Dragunov, and the Kalashnikov.
The AR-15 is a weapon for real freedom fighters. Democracy, boi!

How 'bout a Thompson?


It’s the multipurpose tool to establish capitalist democracy.
Can’t say I love it more than the AR-15 platform, but it was the original:

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Postby Dylar » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:35 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Dylar wrote:Can we just repeal the Firearm ban of '86?


If the GOP gave a shit they could order an amnesty for 120 (?) days and temporarily reopen the registry.

Of course they don't actually care so that's not gonna happen.

Aww...well there goes my dreams of owning a machine gun...

Well, at least I could own a tank
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Postby Reikin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:36 am

I have a strange addiction to HK. HK 416, HK MP7, HK USP. Its a problem. but best pistol by far is the 1911, rifle is the HK 416
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:36 am

Dylar wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
If the GOP gave a shit they could order an amnesty for 120 (?) days and temporarily reopen the registry.

Of course they don't actually care so that's not gonna happen.

Aww...well there goes my dreams of owning a machine gun...

Well, at least I could own a tank


M-10's aren't that expensive for an MG if you're in a free state.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:41 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Dylar wrote:Aww...well there goes my dreams of owning a machine gun...

Well, at least I could own a tank


M-10's aren't that expensive for an MG if you're in a free state.


But an M-10 isn't a real MG...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:42 am

Telconi wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
M-10's aren't that expensive for an MG if you're in a free state.


But an M-10 isn't a real MG...


>the SMG that brought the concept of SMG's back
>not a real MG

Pick one
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 am

Reikin wrote:I have a strange addiction to HK. HK 416, HK MP7, HK USP. Its a problem. but best pistol by far is the 1911, rifle is the HK 416


Nah. Best pistol in my opinion is either the Beretta 92 or the Walther PPK.
(It’s not size, it’s how you use it.)
Best rifle’s going to be the M16A2/A3/A4. The 416’s basically a German AR-18, but it’s still okay. Better than an AK in the very least.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But an M-10 isn't a real MG...


>the SMG that brought the concept of SMG's back
>not a real MG

Pick one


But it's a SUBmachinegun. Sub meaning beneath...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:03 pm

Telconi wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>the SMG that brought the concept of SMG's back
>not a real MG

Pick one


But it's a SUBmachinegun. Sub meaning beneath...


:|
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:34 pm

Telconi wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>the SMG that brought the concept of SMG's back
>not a real MG

Pick one


But it's a SUBmachinegun. Sub meaning beneath...

Or a replacement.
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Postby Telconi » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:20 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But it's a SUBmachinegun. Sub meaning beneath...


:|


BTFO Cobray shill!
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:17 pm

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Don't forget to convert it to full auto and overthrow the government and establish anarchy! Or at the very least Marxist-Leninism.


No, that’s why the commies invented the SKS, the Dragunov, and the Kalashnikov.
The AR-15 is a weapon for real freedom fighters. Democracy, boi!

That's a box of fallacies let's not open. Besides all weapons are revolutionary. Castro used FAL pattern rifles in the 60s. It's not the maker its the user.
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Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:00 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
No, that’s why the commies invented the SKS, the Dragunov, and the Kalashnikov.
The AR-15 is a weapon for real freedom fighters. Democracy, boi!

That's a box of fallacies let's not open. Besides all weapons are revolutionary. Castro used FAL pattern rifles in the 60s. It's not the maker its the user.

Of course- at the same time, it’s the thought that counts.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:46 am

Mandicoria wrote:A simple AR-15 in terms of practicality (And bias because I own one.), but taste wise? I'd say maybe a FAL or a Mosin.

Mauser>Mosin
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Telconi wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Well regardless of the potential reference. That kinda doesn't work. Politics is sort of how civilization and most societies work.


Societies work like lyin', slimy, no good snakes... See, it works just fine...

But snakes are neither slimy, lying, nor no-good. They're smooth and dry, they lack the capacity to lie, and they're very yes-good.
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