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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:32 pm

I am *so* glad I live in Canada, where the .22lr's flow like water.
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:34 pm

Yukonastan wrote:I am *so* glad I live in Canada, where the .22lr's flow like water.

Depending on where in Canada you could cross the border and make quite the profit off of us.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:38 pm

My dad and I just bought a Ruger 10/22 a couple of weeks ago. Burned a hundred rounds through it in one go, only jammed twice. That's reliability.
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:40 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:My dad and I just bought a Ruger 10/22 a couple of weeks ago. Burned a hundred rounds through it in one go, only jammed twice. That's reliability.

It is a good gun but it gets really bad when dirty, which sounds obvious but my Remington 1100 only jams on crap shells after 3 months of not being cleaned. The Ruger after roughly 100-150 rounds gets really bad.

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Postby Mallaska » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:43 pm

I'm sadly stuck with a Savage 64 and a Chiappa M1-22 for my .22 plinking. The M1-22 is absolute rubbish in my opinion. It's just bordering dangerous, considering it tends to fire in two-round bursts without me asking it to.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:46 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:My dad and I just bought a Ruger 10/22 a couple of weeks ago. Burned a hundred rounds through it in one go, only jammed twice. That's reliability.

It is a good gun but it gets really bad when dirty, which sounds obvious but my Remington 1100 only jams on crap shells after 3 months of not being cleaned. The Ruger after roughly 100-150 rounds gets really bad.

I mean, considering they were range rounds, I was thoroughly impressed. But hey, it's a cheap gun. I'm not expecting it to magically stay clean or anything.
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:48 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Autonomous Titoists wrote:It is a good gun but it gets really bad when dirty, which sounds obvious but my Remington 1100 only jams on crap shells after 3 months of not being cleaned. The Ruger after roughly 100-150 rounds gets really bad.

I mean, considering they were range rounds, I was thoroughly impressed. But hey, it's a cheap gun. I'm not expecting it to magically stay clean or anything.

Ya it's solid for the price and if you really want you can empty the magazine in a couple of seconds. My uncle used to take it and hold the handle in one hand, take the other and shove his finger in the trigger guard, and just go back and forth. His neighbors thought he had a machine gun, its a fun little gun.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:52 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I mean, considering they were range rounds, I was thoroughly impressed. But hey, it's a cheap gun. I'm not expecting it to magically stay clean or anything.

Ya it's solid for the price and if you really want you can empty the magazine in a couple of seconds. My uncle used to take it and hold the handle in one hand, take the other and shove his finger in the trigger guard, and just go back and forth. His neighbors thought he had a machine gun, its a fun little gun.

Great, now the government can file .22 LR's as assault weapons. Thanks, Uncle Tito.
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:55 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Autonomous Titoists wrote:Ya it's solid for the price and if you really want you can empty the magazine in a couple of seconds. My uncle used to take it and hold the handle in one hand, take the other and shove his finger in the trigger guard, and just go back and forth. His neighbors thought he had a machine gun, its a fun little gun.

Great, now the government can file .22 LR's as assault weapons. Thanks, Uncle Tito.

Yep coming next tactical .22 LR's equipped with a black paint and $200 price increase.

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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:52 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:I mean, considering they were range rounds, I was thoroughly impressed. But hey, it's a cheap gun. I'm not expecting it to magically stay clean or anything.

Ya it's solid for the price and if you really want you can empty the magazine in a couple of seconds. My uncle used to take it and hold the handle in one hand, take the other and shove his finger in the trigger guard, and just go back and forth. His neighbors thought he had a machine gun, its a fun little gun.


Heh, I'm probably getting a few of those 120rd drums for the ruger, and probably make/get a bump stock on it as well (depending on how legal it is). Would be surprising for people at the backwoods range I go to.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:59 pm

Yukonastan wrote:
Autonomous Titoists wrote:Ya it's solid for the price and if you really want you can empty the magazine in a couple of seconds. My uncle used to take it and hold the handle in one hand, take the other and shove his finger in the trigger guard, and just go back and forth. His neighbors thought he had a machine gun, its a fun little gun.


Heh, I'm probably getting a few of those 120rd drums for the ruger, and probably make/get a bump stock on it as well (depending on how legal it is). Would be surprising for people at the backwoods range I go to.


Sounds like fun.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:36 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
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Except for Taurus.

Taurus got some things right. Like the Judge, if you remember Smith and Wesson ripped it off with the Governor, basically the same but had 1 more round.


Both are pretty pointless and useless handguns, really. Since the bore is rifled, any .410 shot is going to be incredibly inaccurate, and at that, you are putting .45LC or .410 slugs through a revolver. There really isn't much of a point to it other than "look at what we done did," or, at the very least, use as a snake gun.

But that is negligible considering it fires a 4-10 and if you manage to miss 5 times you should probably have a real gun like I don't know a fully automatic M60 belt fed with a 250 round belt wrapped around your body.


There have been instances of people being shot multiple times in the chest with a .357 Magnum and not dying.

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Postby Yukonastan » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:50 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Autonomous Titoists wrote:Taurus got some things right. Like the Judge, if you remember Smith and Wesson ripped it off with the Governor, basically the same but had 1 more round.


Both are pretty pointless and useless handguns, really. Since the bore is rifled, any .410 shot is going to be incredibly inaccurate, and at that, you are putting .45LC or .410 slugs through a revolver. There really isn't much of a point to it other than "look at what we done did," or, at the very least, use as a snake gun.

But that is negligible considering it fires a 4-10 and if you manage to miss 5 times you should probably have a real gun like I don't know a fully automatic M60 belt fed with a 250 round belt wrapped around your body.


There have been instances of people being shot multiple times in the chest with a .357 Magnum and not dying.


There have been instances of people shot in the torso or even the chest with .50BMG and/or 12.7 Russian and not dying. Doesn't sound like fun, though, at least not when I read it. Not when you're torn open from your groin to your left nipple (or shoulder).


Korva wrote:You could just hook your finger through your belt loop.

Ah, come on, that's no fun.

Although I'm wondering, since it's a 22, if you put a plate on the top of the stock (like on an mg), or hold it firmly on the forend, and grip the PG loosely, with your thumb acting as that disengager plate, could you replicate the functionality of a bump stock without having a bump stock.
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Postby Korva » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:03 pm

Autonomous Titoists wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Except for Taurus.

Taurus got some things right. Like the Judge, if you remember Smith and Wesson ripped it off with the Governor, basically the same but had 1 more round. But that is negligible considering it fires a 4-10 and if you manage to miss 5 times you should probably have a real gun like I don't know a fully automatic M60 belt fed with a 250 round belt wrapped around your body.

5 shots is hardly enough, especially when you could have a pistol with similar dimensions carrying 3x as many rounds

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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:19 pm

Korva wrote:
Autonomous Titoists wrote:Taurus got some things right. Like the Judge, if you remember Smith and Wesson ripped it off with the Governor, basically the same but had 1 more round. But that is negligible considering it fires a 4-10 and if you manage to miss 5 times you should probably have a real gun like I don't know a fully automatic M60 belt fed with a 250 round belt wrapped around your body.

5 shots is hardly enough, especially when you could have a pistol with similar dimensions carrying 3x as many rounds



Those feels when G17 Gen. 4 with 17+1 Hornady Critical Defense with a mounted TLR-1s weapon light and two spare magazines.

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Postby Big Jim P » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:02 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Korva wrote:5 shots is hardly enough, especially when you could have a pistol with similar dimensions carrying 3x as many rounds



Those feels when G17 Gen. 4 with 17+1 Hornady Critical Defense with a mounted TLR-1s weapon light and two spare magazines.


G-40 MOS 15+1, 2 spares and a good reflex sight. No such thing as overkill. :p

Edit: Make that 4 spares. :twisted:
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:19 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Those feels when G17 Gen. 4 with 17+1 Hornady Critical Defense with a mounted TLR-1s weapon light and two spare magazines.


G-40 MOS 15+1, 2 spares and a good reflex sight. No such thing as overkill. :p

Edit: Make that 4 spares. :twisted:


G20 G4 with Lone Wolf upgrades and a full mag of goodness.

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Postby The Freeholds » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:42 pm

I don't know why, but I am probably going to have to say the Colt 727.
I just love the retro look with the detachable carry handle, and especially of it is painted camo.
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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:33 pm

The Freeholds wrote:I don't know why, but I am probably going to have to say the Colt 727.
I just love the retro look with the detachable carry handle, and especially of it is painted camo.



727s have an A2 upper receiver: the handle isn't detachable.

However, you may find this interesting (not my rifle): http://imgur.com/a/D8Y6m

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:27 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
G-40 MOS 15+1, 2 spares and a good reflex sight. No such thing as overkill. :p

Edit: Make that 4 spares. :twisted:


G20 G4 with Lone Wolf upgrades and a full mag of goodness.


Unfamiliar with that one. Will have to look it up.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:44 am

So just a general note,

Does anyone have any experience with a Bushmaster ACR? I've been thinking about buying one but haven't been able to talk to anyone who can give me a good summery of how the rifle preforms and any particular pro's and cons of it.
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Postby Korva » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:59 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
G-40 MOS 15+1, 2 spares and a good reflex sight. No such thing as overkill. :p

Edit: Make that 4 spares. :twisted:


G20 G4 with Lone Wolf upgrades and a full mag of goodness.

G26 w/ 15+1 and two spares plus four 33 rd mags for the Sub-2000 in the trunk.

can't even imagine just having 5 shots :O

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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:19 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:So just a general note,

Does anyone have any experience with a Bushmaster ACR? I've been thinking about buying one but haven't been able to talk to anyone who can give me a good summery of how the rifle preforms and any particular pro's and cons of it.

I've never owned one but I do know a bit about it. It's pretty solid design and supposedly easy cleaning. i looked into 1 myself and it is a bitch finding info for it.
On a similar note for handguns does anyone know anything about CZ? They make great shotguns and hunting/competition rifles, but no one I've met knows anything about their handgun market.

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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:21 pm

Korva wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
G20 G4 with Lone Wolf upgrades and a full mag of goodness.

G26 w/ 15+1 and two spares plus four 33 rd mags for the Sub-2000 in the trunk.

can't even imagine just having 5 shots :O

MP7 in my satchel(man purse) with 8 extra 30 round magazines, reflex sites, and what the hell a laser sight. Green laser sight. Or carry a backpack everywhere and keep some illegal ass sawed off shotgun in their. Maybe a KSG, pretty small with the bullpup design and holds 15 shells.

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