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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:58 pm

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You can't go wrong with a 10/22. They are reliable, and also very easy to configure how you want it.


Yeh, I've gotten that far.

Question now is whether I should look secondhand or new, and 10/22 carbine or 10/22 target.

The target has a bull barrel on it.


Either one. The 10/22 is one of the great rifles of all time. I want the Stainless steel with composite stock.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:59 pm

Neo ORB wrote:Technical name: FN-P90
also known as the PDW-99 for airsofters
or as gamers know it, simply the P-90.
Small caliber rounds, 50 round mag, and close to the body as its sub machine gun, carbine hybrid by today's standards.


I like those, but I prefer the AR57. Same magazine in an AR platform. Not as compact, but still nice.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:59 pm

I recently discovered this sexy beast who's new on the scene, it's called the Taurus Curve
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and now I really want one.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:03 am

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Never liked a bolt-action rifle, in my opinion they are a pain the ass. I keep forgetting that I have to manually operate the mechanism for each round fired.

Cannot beat a bolt action rifle for accuracy at long distance shots. I love my .338 lapua for such long range shots.


That's what my .308 will be for: 1000 meter shots.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:04 am

The Alexanderians wrote:I recently discovered this sexy beast who's new on the scene, it's called the Taurus Curve and now I really want one.


To each his own. Blegh.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:06 am

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The Alexanderians wrote:I recently discovered this sexy beast who's new on the scene, it's called the Taurus Curve and now I really want one.


To each his own. Blegh.

I already have the big boys on my wish list...I want a cute bruiser in the squad too
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:09 am

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To each his own. Blegh.

I already have the big boys on my wish list...I want a cute bruiser in the squad too


I just don't care for the look of the Curve. That is just a personal opinion, and like I said, to each his own. :)
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Postby The Alexanderians » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:10 am

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The Alexanderians wrote:I already have the big boys on my wish list...I want a cute bruiser in the squad too


I just don't care for the look of the Curve. That is just a personal opinion, and like I said, to each his own. :)

Guns are like women, everyone has their own taste...and take care of them they might just save your life
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:13 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
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I just don't care for the look of the Curve. That is just a personal opinion, and like I said, to each his own. :)

Guns are like women, everyone has their own taste...and take care of them they might just save your life


Indeed. I tend to prefer more traditional looks. In both departments. ;)
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:45 am

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The Alexanderians wrote:I already have the big boys on my wish list...I want a cute bruiser in the squad too


I just don't care for the look of the Curve. That is just a personal opinion, and like I said, to each his own. :)

I'd be more curious about holding the thing.
It seems to me like the curves might just make for a somewhat uncomfortable grip, but I haven't seen any around so can't say for sure.

On a semi-related note, picked up a surplus Beretta 92 a little while ago because I've always kind've wanted a Beretta 92 without paying Beretta 92 prices. It's an Italian police import so it's got a funky heel mag release and a bit of wear (and the front sight is a freaking bump), but since I got it just for the historical/aesthetic jollies (that stupid slide cutout at the price was the only thing that drew my eye), I don't figure that matters too much. For what I paid I'd say it was worth it, but it didn't manage to convince me of anything I might be missing, I still wouldn't buy one full price.

What I was surprised about was the fact that the slide-mounted safety didn't bother me nearly as much as it has on other pistols. It happened to be positioned in the right place that activating and deactivating it was actually surprisingly comfortable and easy...That said, a frame-mounted safety would've still been a bigger plus, but I can't really complain since I still bought the thing. It's not going to be a workhorse shooter anyways, so I won't have to worry about that.
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:34 am

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I'm interested in another use they have. In some European countries they're allowed for sale with less-lethal cartridges for self-defence. There aren't many reviews online for some of the pistols I'm after and I'd be interested to know if someone here has experience with these weapons.


Why the fuck would you want a less lethal round for self defense?

That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.


Procedures to legally procure a firearm here are painfully slow and some of the requirements are absurd (I need a wall safe, for example). That's why most people go for less-lethal rounds with incapacitating agents like PAVA or CN, or a mixture of both. I'll be getting a real gun eventually, just wondering if this is a decent stop-gap measure.

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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:17 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Why the fuck would you want a less lethal round for self defense?

That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.


Procedures to legally procure a firearm here are painfully slow and some of the requirements are absurd (I need a wall safe, for example). That's why most people go for less-lethal rounds with incapacitating agents like PAVA or CN, or a mixture of both. I'll be getting a real gun eventually, just wondering if this is a decent stop-gap measure.


I am so glad to be a Texan. Our gun laws are (for the most part) reasonable.
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Postby Azov Battalion » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:17 am

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My Mosin Nagant of course.

Even though it's a Commie-stick, it still serves its purpose and I love it.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:10 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:
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Why the fuck would you want a less lethal round for self defense?

That makes about as much sense as wiping before you poop.


Procedures to legally procure a firearm here are painfully slow and some of the requirements are absurd (I need a wall safe, for example). That's why most people go for less-lethal rounds with incapacitating agents like PAVA or CN, or a mixture of both. I'll be getting a real gun eventually, just wondering if this is a decent stop-gap measure.


Wait....

You're government thinks that using a hallow point in self defense is bad, but using basically chemically laced bullets is ok?

:blink:

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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:17 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:
Procedures to legally procure a firearm here are painfully slow and some of the requirements are absurd (I need a wall safe, for example). That's why most people go for less-lethal rounds with incapacitating agents like PAVA or CN, or a mixture of both. I'll be getting a real gun eventually, just wondering if this is a decent stop-gap measure.


Wait....

You're government thinks that using a hallow point in self defense is bad, but using basically chemically laced bullets is ok?

:blink:


Never under-estimate the stupidity of governments. ;)
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:35 am

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:
Procedures to legally procure a firearm here are painfully slow and some of the requirements are absurd (I need a wall safe, for example). That's why most people go for less-lethal rounds with incapacitating agents like PAVA or CN, or a mixture of both. I'll be getting a real gun eventually, just wondering if this is a decent stop-gap measure.


Wait....

You're government thinks that using a hallow point in self defense is bad, but using basically chemically laced bullets is ok?

:blink:


Yes. What is further amazing about our weaponry law is that bows and crossbows are OK (not even mentioned), despite their lethality. I'd get one, but they're not exactly suitable for concealed carry... :roll:

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I am so glad to be a Texan. Our gun laws are (for the most part) reasonable.


Most European states have highly restrictive gun laws, but I don't mind it. It's only a problem in countries where police is dysfunctional, like here.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:17 am

The Alexanderians wrote:
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I just don't care for the look of the Curve. That is just a personal opinion, and like I said, to each his own. :)

Guns are like women, everyone has their own taste...and take care of them they might just save your life



Except for Taurus.

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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:21 am

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You can't go wrong with a 10/22. They are reliable, and also very easy to configure how you want it.


.22 lr are all but extinct out here in Oregon. I managed to pickup 5 or 6 boxes of 50 rounds in the last year (and that was sheer dumb luck). My Marlins are starving to death :(


Yeah, CT is a .22lr desert for the most part, too. My friends and I have, however, cultivated a few leads at the local Wal-Marts (so we get clued in to the rare occurrences of .22lr shipments coming in). My Rugers are on rations, but they aren't starving yet.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:30 am

Yukonastan wrote:
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You can't go wrong with a 10/22. They are reliable, and also very easy to configure how you want it.


Yeh, I've gotten that far.

Question now is whether I should look secondhand or new, and 10/22 carbine or 10/22 target.

The target has a bull barrel on it.


I bought a new carbine, and it's been great so far. I have added a Kidd trigger kit, Wolff springs, Volquartsen extractor, poly recoil buffer, and Nodak Spud sights since I bought it, though. The only time I had an issue with it was due to a round jamming in one of my Butler Creek magazines, and causing feeding issues.
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:33 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Yukonastan wrote:
Yeh, I've gotten that far.

Question now is whether I should look secondhand or new, and 10/22 carbine or 10/22 target.

The target has a bull barrel on it.


Either one. The 10/22 is one of the great rifles of all time. I want the Stainless steel with composite stock.


The receiver is the same, regardless of model. The "stainless" is just paint. The barrel is bead blasted stainless, though.
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Postby Big Jim P » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:00 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
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Either one. The 10/22 is one of the great rifles of all time. I want the Stainless steel with composite stock.


The receiver is the same, regardless of model. The "stainless" is just paint. The barrel is bead blasted stainless, though.


True, but I still like the look.
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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:20 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:I recently discovered this sexy beast who's new on the scene, it's called the Taurus Curve and now I really want one.

Looks nice but seems kinda impractical. My dad had a Taurus .380 back int he day and this just looks like a romanticized and cleaned up version. IN short it was the worst handgun he ever bought, ammo's not cheap, it's inaccurate as hell, and with the lacking magazine capacity it just isn't worth it.

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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:22 pm

Gun Manufacturers wrote:
British Grand Pacific wrote:
.22 lr are all but extinct out here in Oregon. I managed to pickup 5 or 6 boxes of 50 rounds in the last year (and that was sheer dumb luck). My Marlins are starving to death :(


Yeah, CT is a .22lr desert for the most part, too. My friends and I have, however, cultivated a few leads at the local Wal-Marts (so we get clued in to the rare occurrences of .22lr shipments coming in). My Rugers are on rations, but they aren't starving yet.

Tennessee's dry and we have a shit ton of factories pumping out .22s. It's depressing, but I can't say I have the time really anymore to go plinking. If you can afford basically $10+ a shot the competition rounds are relatively plentiful.

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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:24 pm

Azov Battalion wrote:Oh.

My Mosin Nagant of course.

Even though it's a Commie-stick, it still serves its purpose and I love it.

They are amazing and pre Commie. They actually were used in the Bolshevik revolution they handed out cut down versions to the populace. They were basically bolt action pistols that could launch you through a window in a Hollywood style. They are monster weapons, accurate, reliable, and with the round they fire destructive beasts.

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Postby Autonomous Titoists » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:27 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Guns are like women, everyone has their own taste...and take care of them they might just save your life



Except for Taurus.

Taurus got some things right. Like the Judge, if you remember Smith and Wesson ripped it off with the Governor, basically the same but had 1 more round. But that is negligible considering it fires a 4-10 and if you manage to miss 5 times you should probably have a real gun like I don't know a fully automatic M60 belt fed with a 250 round belt wrapped around your body.

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