GUN TALK (Favorite guns discussion thread)

[Spreewerke]

That's true.

As for IFF (Identification Friend/Foe)

IRL, helmets have "cats-eyes"... essentially just "glow-in-the-IR" thumb-tacks punched into the back of your helmet, under the assumption that the enemy will be facing you, and you facing the enemy.

Hence the saying: "Keep your head down, eyes up, mouths shut, face front" in order to stay out of trouble.

If its helmet glows under NVG, it's probably friendly. And if it isn't, he isn't hiding very well. Stick to aiming for muzzle-flashes and scope-glint... two things that imaging-software and lasers can actually do.. although it'll need to do something to distigiush between these and the passive IFF.
-This is where the officer needs to make a judgment-call during the fog of war when the IFF/detection-system gets dodgy.

This should probably go under the infantry/realism discussion thread(s)
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=419951

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I may have been RPing this for too long.... when I can essentially recite some of this stuff better than a DnD dungeon-master can recite the lore of realms and planes...

They've been using IR beacons/strobes on helmets for the higher speed guys for quite a while now, too.

[East Ustya]

Also i REALLY need to replace my WW1 Lee Enfields.
But with what?

[Democratic Exodian Territories]

Also i REALLY need to replace my WW1 Lee Enfields.
But with what?

I’d arm you with an Indian INSAS assault rifle.

[East Ustya]

Also i REALLY need to replace my WW1 Lee Enfields.
But with what?

I’d arm you with an Indian INSAS assault rifle.

Sounds interesting.
I might do that at MT, thanks.

[Valgora]

Relevant

My only problem with this is that they say "Three-round burst or fully automatic" when the would most likely be talking about the M16A1 which wasn't 3-round burst as far as I'm aware.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Relevant

My only problem with this is that they say "Three-round burst or fully automatic" when the would most likely be talking about the M16A1 which wasn't 3-round burst as far as I'm aware.

Yeah, I think the M16 was changed to three round burst for the A2 or A3.

[Valgora]

Relevant

My only problem with this is that they say "Three-round burst or fully automatic" when the would most likely be talking about the M16A1 which wasn't 3-round burst as far as I'm aware.

Yeah, I think the M16 was changed to three round burst for the A2 or A3.

The A2

I think the A3 was full auto.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Yeah, I think the M16 was changed to three round burst for the A2 or A3.

The A2

I think the A3 was full auto.

Was that the variant that was exported to Canada?

[Valgora]

The A2

I think the A3 was full auto.

Was that the variant that was exported to Canada?

They have their own versions I think: the Colt Canada C7 and C8
The C7 appears to be similar to the M16A3.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Was that the variant that was exported to Canada?

They have their own versions I think: the Colt Canada C7 and C8
The C7 appears to be similar to the M16A3.

Yeah, that sounds about right. I knew that there had been an export M16 variant.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Sure looks like it after a bit more of searching of news sites and I was hoping it was a hoax like it was back in 2010.

Gunny will surely be missed.

Yea.
I grew up watching Mail Call and he's the reason I'm interested in military equipment and one of the reasons I like guns.

For some reason, I feel as though Mail-Call would've put me off from researching the subject matter as seriously as I have.

Remains of the cold war was a pretty decent motivation in the 90's, though.

[Hammer Britannia]

Does having an obsession with Wehrmacht weapons make me a Wehraboo?

Because if it does, send help pls.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Does having an obsession with Wehrmacht weapons make me a Wehraboo?

Because if it does, send help pls.

I don't know. I'm not an authority on such matters. I prefer American military weapons as an area of study.

[The Two Jerseys]

Does having an obsession with Wehrmacht weapons make me a Wehraboo?

Because if it does, send help pls.

I think you also need to have an irrational belief that the Wehrmacht is always superior in every way in order to be a Wehraboo.

[Telconi]

Does having an obsession with Wehrmacht weapons make me a Wehraboo?

Because if it does, send help pls.

That is what a wehraboo is... so ... yes...

[Big Jim P]

Also i REALLY need to replace my WW1 Lee Enfields.
But with what?

WW2 Enfields.

[Big Jim P]

RIP R. Lee Ermey.

QFFT!

[Spreewerke]

Relevant

My only problem with this is that they say "Three-round burst or fully automatic" when the would most likely be talking about the M16A1 which wasn't 3-round burst as far as I'm aware.

What is the lyric in question? I'm not going to listen through this in an attempt to find it.

[Valgora]

Relevant

My only problem with this is that they say "Three-round burst or fully automatic" when the would most likely be talking about the M16A1 which wasn't 3-round burst as far as I'm aware.

What is the lyric in question? I'm not going to listen through this in an attempt to find it.

Three round burst or fully automatic
5.56 is gonna wreak havoc
Unload a mag in your face and chest
My M-16 is gonna make a fucking mess.

M-16 x4

Lightweight air cooled magazine fed
pull the trigger see a mist of red
Aiming down the sights
Splattering your brain
My M-16 is gonna take fucking names

[Telconi]

What is the lyric in question? I'm not going to listen through this in an attempt to find it.

Three round burst or fully automatic
5.56 is gonna wreak havoc
Unload a mag in your face and chest
My M-16 is gonna make a fucking mess.

M-16 x4

Lightweight air cooled magazine fed
pull the trigger see a mist of red
Aiming down the sights
Splattering your brain
My M-16 is gonna take fucking names

That's lovely...

[Impaled Nazarene]

Does having an obsession with Wehrmacht weapons make me a Wehraboo?

Because if it does, send help pls.

I think you also need to have an irrational belief that the Wehrmacht is always superior in every way in order to be a Wehraboo.

This.
Look at Lemmy Kilmister (RIP Metal Jesus) he loved history especially german military history to the point where he wore wehrmacht uniforms and collected memorabilia. He didn't believe that the Wehrmacht was some unbeatable force of nature that was cheated out of victory by snow and mud. He was a history fanatic not a wehraboo.

Speaking of the most overrated force in military history. I still can't believe wehraboos dominate the portrayal of ww2 games with the wehrmacht being fully motorized and ignoring how pathetic the panzer I and II were. Opting to skip right to the Panzer III which was mediocre at best in early models. Their equipment was above average at best seeing how they never produced a quality semi-automatic rifle in time for it to be important and by the time they did it wasn't even going to replace the mauser. Don't even start on the impractical uniforms.
Only through Chamberlain abandoning Czechoslovakia and France underestimating the Wehrmacht severely did the Germans win in the west early in the war. Had the shit for brains not sold out and the Ardennes gap not been wide open actually scratch that. Had shit for brains stood by France and Czechoslovakia the Allies could have actually invaded Germany. The heavier armor on the allied tanks possibly winning the war as opposed to just rolling over and dying through most of the early North Africa campaign.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I think you also need to have an irrational belief that the Wehrmacht is always superior in every way in order to be a Wehraboo.

This.
Look at Lemmy Kilmister (RIP Metal Jesus) he loved history especially german military history to the point where he wore wehrmacht uniforms and collected memorabilia. He didn't believe that the Wehrmacht was some unbeatable force of nature that was cheated out of victory by snow and mud. He was a history fanatic not a wehraboo.

Speaking of the most overrated force in military history. I still can't believe wehraboos dominate the portrayal of ww2 games with the wehrmacht being fully motorized and ignoring how pathetic the panzer I and II were. Opting to skip right to the Panzer III which was mediocre at best in early models. Their equipment was above average at best seeing how they never produced a quality semi-automatic rifle in time for it to be important and by the time they did it wasn't even going to replace the mauser. Don't even start on the impractical uniforms.
Only through Chamberlain abandoning Czechoslovakia and France underestimating the Wehrmacht severely did the Germans win in the west early in the war. Had the shit for brains not sold out and the Ardennes gap not been wide open actually scratch that. Had shit for brains stood by France and Czechoslovakia the Allies could have actually invaded Germany. The heavier armor on the allied tanks possibly winning the war as opposed to just rolling over and dying through most of the early North Africa campaign.

Also, the Germans still used horses, iirc.

[Sovaal]

This.
Look at Lemmy Kilmister (RIP Metal Jesus) he loved history especially german military history to the point where he wore wehrmacht uniforms and collected memorabilia. He didn't believe that the Wehrmacht was some unbeatable force of nature that was cheated out of victory by snow and mud. He was a history fanatic not a wehraboo.

Speaking of the most overrated force in military history. I still can't believe wehraboos dominate the portrayal of ww2 games with the wehrmacht being fully motorized and ignoring how pathetic the panzer I and II were. Opting to skip right to the Panzer III which was mediocre at best in early models. Their equipment was above average at best seeing how they never produced a quality semi-automatic rifle in time for it to be important and by the time they did it wasn't even going to replace the mauser. Don't even start on the impractical uniforms.
Only through Chamberlain abandoning Czechoslovakia and France underestimating the Wehrmacht severely did the Germans win in the west early in the war. Had the shit for brains not sold out and the Ardennes gap not been wide open actually scratch that. Had shit for brains stood by France and Czechoslovakia the Allies could have actually invaded Germany. The heavier armor on the allied tanks possibly winning the war as opposed to just rolling over and dying through most of the early North Africa campaign.

Also, the Germans still used horses, iirc.

Most of their logistical train was horse drawn. They were hardly as mechanized as pretty much any of the allies.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Also, the Germans still used horses, iirc.

Most of their logistical train was horse drawn. They were hardly as mechanized as pretty much any of the allies.

Which isn't the best system, imo.

[Sovaal]

Most of their logistical train was horse drawn. They were hardly as mechanized as pretty much any of the allies.

Which isn't the best system, imo.

Especially not so when the enemy you’re fighting had a fleet of trucks large enough to pretty much literally crush your entire army under.

Yah don’t go declaring war on multiple industrial supergiants.