Do you agree with Democracy?

[Farnhamia]

Britain let the colonies govern themselves, all they wanted was a very small amount of taxes to pay for the defence of the colonies.

Britain didn't allow the colonies complete independence.

They wouldn't be colonies if she did.

[Arcov]

Right, but the country was controlled by people inside of it, which was my point.

Britain let the colonies govern themselves aslong as they swore loyalty to the Crown, all they wanted was a very small amount of taxes to pay for the defence of the colonies.

They also did not let the colonists participate in the Parliament, nor did they respect their rights as citizens of Britain.

[Othelos]

Britain didn't allow the colonies complete independence.

They wouldn't be colonies if she did.

exactly, which is my point lol

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

[Merent]

Britain let the colonies govern themselves, all they wanted was a very small amount of taxes to pay for the defence of the colonies.

Britain didn't allow the colonies complete independence.

Independance gave slavery, war, debt, genocide and higher taxes then under the Crown. The Crown gave liberty, self government, protection and a little little bit of taxes.

[Naval Monte]

It may have it's problems but I rather stick with it than let's say monarchy or a dictatorship.

[Immoren]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

Like religion?

[The New Lowlands]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

So, not much different from divine right, then.

[Arcov]

Britain didn't allow the colonies complete independence.

Independance gave slavery, war, debt, genocide and higher taxes then under the Crown. The Crown gave liberty, self government, protection and a little little bit of taxes.

Slavery was allowed before, the UK could not stop the displacement of Native Americans, and was also heavily in debt due to the French and Indian war.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

Like religion?

Indeed. Religion, Pop Culture and Democracy are all distractions.

[AkAr Cydonia]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

[Arcov]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

<sigh>

The US and Canada are representative democracies. You are thinking of direct democracy.

[Othelos]

Britain didn't allow the colonies complete independence.

Independance gave slavery, war, debt, genocide and higher taxes then under the Crown. The Crown gave liberty, self government, protection and a little little bit of taxes.

Slavery, war, debt, and genocide were all already present under the monarchy.

And the amount of tax doesn't matter, what matters is where the tax goes and how it effects Americans.

Also:

I don't want to risk to go off topic, but Distruzio knows how to defend Monarchy in the "Do you agree with democracy thread".

I'm asking you, not him.

It's better for society as a whole to have a say in the way that people are governed. Democratic governments are accountable, and have to listen to the people. An absolute monarch can basically do what he/she wants, which can lead to big problems for the people.

[The New Lowlands]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid ... definition
"democracy
dɪˈmɒkrəsi/
noun
a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."

[Othelos]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

yeah, it's horrible for the government to be accountable to the people.

[Arcov]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

So not much different from what you want then.

So no reason to change.

[Immoren]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

America and Canada are democraties.
No amount of whinings gonna change that.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

Indeed. The country is designed to benefit the big business and lobby groups. They pay the media to distract us with Bieber and Kardashian while we are cheated at every turn. Elections are little more than a contest between two largely identical parties that use social issues to give a facade of debate and conflict.

This is the natural state of any self proclaimed "democracy."

[Valkalan]

No. Democracy is a smoke and mirrors construct meant to solidify the status quo and prevent decisive change.


It is a lie and an opiate of the masses.

Brave New World is at least more palatable than 1984.

[Othelos]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

a country can be a democracy and a republic at the same time; the two aren't mutually exclusive.

[Merent]

Independance gave slavery, war, debt, genocide and higher taxes then under the Crown. The Crown gave liberty, self government, protection and a little little bit of taxes.

Slavery was allowed before, the UK could not stop the displacement of Native Americans, and was also heavily in debt due to the French and Indian war.

Slavery would no doubty end faster under British Rule, Native peoples would be far better treated under British Rule, and the key to debt is not to create more war, debt and misery. The key to paying off public debt is to pay taxes.

[Arcov]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

Indeed. The country is designed to benefit the big business and lobby groups. They pay the media to distract us with Bieber and Kardashian while we are cheated at every turn. Elections are little more than a contest between two largely identical parties that use social issues to give a facade of debate and conflict.

This is the natural state of any self proclaimed "democracy."

Your a so called "Machiavellian". If you were in charge you would just turn it into a dictatorship that benefits you.

So please, stop pretending you have some kind of moral high ground.

[Agritum]

Like religion?

Indeed. Religion, Pop Culture and Democracy are all distractions.

I can get hating Democracy. Even me, a fervent small d democrat facepalm at some of its effects.

I can get hating Religion. One can have multiple reasons to.

But hating pop culture is the looniest thing I've ever seen on this site. Compliments, Nilfgaard.

[Aeken]

Democracy? Democracy is rule by the majority, that is a lynch mob.

America and Canada are not democracies and they never will be, America is a constitutional republic and canada is a constitutional monarchy, they have democratic properties but they are not democracies, that is a facade built up by the fourth branch of government which is the mass mainstream media. Learn some history for heavens sake.

Indeed. The country is designed to benefit the big business and lobby groups. They pay the media to distract us with Bieber and Kardashian while we are cheated at every turn. Elections are little more than a contest between two largely identical parties that use social issues to give a facade of debate and conflict.

This is the natural state of any self proclaimed "democracy."

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[Arcov]

Slavery was allowed before, the UK could not stop the displacement of Native Americans, and was also heavily in debt due to the French and Indian war.

Slavery would no doubty end faster under British Rule, Native peoples would be far better treated under British Rule, and the key to debt is not to create more war, debt and misery. But to pay taxes to pay it off.

No, actually, it would have stayed longer. The UK allowed slavery in its colonies until the early 1900s, and with powerful southern landowners, that would have been even harder to do.

No they wouldn't, look at how the Africans and Indians were treated. The taxes were being used to pay of the debt the UK accrued fighting the French, not protecting the Americans.