Do you agree with Democracy?

[Laerod]

Yes, since we probably would be on Nationstates right now if there was no democracy.

Well, I mean, technically that doesn't stop our local Russians, Belarusians, Qataris and what have you.

But if there was none whatsoever, there would probably not be a space for this kind of forum.

[ODMS Babel]

Considering that the leaders in a democracy actually care if the population agrees with them, yeah I have a pretty positive image of democracy.

Obviously best kind of society is post-scarcity outwardly anarcho-communistic society that has group of benevolent "god" AIs gently tugging strings behind the scenes.

This is good too if I am one of the god AIs. If not then I am becoming a fish and joining the Morthanveld.

[Laerod]

Considering that the leaders in a democracy actually care if the population agrees with them, yeah I have a pretty positive image of democracy.

Not necessarily.

[Greater Mackonia]

You doubt the empirically verified phenomenon?

I could just be mis-interpreting this but according to the article itself:

"...has generally been found to be as good as, and often better than, the answer given by any of the individuals within the group"

That has nothing to do with their reasoning in comparison to experts, anyway the entire phenomenon seems rather bogus and I see little real empirical evidence to its truth. There will always emerge superior individuals, there will always be stupider individuals and it is paramount that the views of the second group do not override the first.

I suppose what I am trying to say is what exactly is the crowd being compared to? What is a crowd? There will be members of any crowd that will formulate judgement superior to other members, In what context was this taken?

It all just seems very superficial to me, if anything I'd say experience and history show crowds are inherently easy to manipulate and sway.

I apologise if I still seem incoherent.

[ODMS Babel]

Considering that the leaders in a democracy actually care if the population agrees with them, yeah I have a pretty positive image of democracy.

Not necessarily.

Very good point, though I'd put that as a mark against unrestrainted capitalism rather than a mark against democracy. Still a very good thing to consider.

[Laerod]

Not necessarily.

Very good point, though I'd put that as a mark against unrestrainted capitalism rather than a mark against democracy. Still a very good thing to consider.

Prevention requires that one recognize what can go wrong. Notable is that even with the lack of impact, US citizens still enjoy civil liberties that citizens of dictatorships do not.

[United Regions of Verona]

So they live closer to the death camps, where you can literally see mass graves... and they don't believe it?

Yes.

I thought it was common knowledge that Europeans don't really believe the holocaust happened.

Stop making up fake info.

[Mollary]

I believe in democracy and, moreover, I believe it is patronizing and incorrect to claim that the general public is too stupid for it to function.

[Republique della France]

I believe in democracy and, moreover, I believe it is patronizing and incorrect to claim that the general public is too stupid for it to function.

Have you even seen what happened over in Fergustan?

[Mollary]

I believe in democracy and, moreover, I believe it is patronizing and incorrect to claim that the general public is too stupid for it to function.

Have you even seen what happened over in Fergustan?

What with the riots as the result of the police shooting someone who was unarmed? Yes.

[Republique della France]

Have you even seen what happened over in Fergustan?

What with the riots as the result of the police shooting someone who was unarmed? Yes.

A criminal is a criminal. The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

Besides, the fact is, that the police officer received trauma to the head, the criminal was not shot to death and then decided to beat the officer.

It is obvious the criminal attacked the officer, and he rightly put that criminal down.

[The New Sea Territory]

Stateless direct democracy and Workplace Democracy, yes.

[Laerod]

What with the riots as the result of the police shooting someone who was unarmed? Yes.

A criminal is a criminal. The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

Besides, the fact is, that the police officer received trauma to the head, the criminal was not shot to death and then decided to beat the officer.

It is obvious the criminal attacked the officer, and he rightly put that criminal down.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with your own topic.

[Galloism]

What with the riots as the result of the police shooting someone who was unarmed? Yes.

A criminal is a criminal. The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

.........

No matter how many times I read this... I'm stunned every time.

There's a fantasy world in play here, but what you've cited is not the fantasy.

[Mollary]

What with the riots as the result of the police shooting someone who was unarmed? Yes.

A criminal is a criminal. The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

Besides, the fact is, that the police officer received trauma to the head, the criminal was not shot to death and then decided to beat the officer.

It is obvious the criminal attacked the officer, and he rightly put that criminal down.

Can you source the second part? And I think you'll find that they generally are discriminated against, certainly less than before, but it is still there. Besides, can you in anyway link this to the point?

[Valaran]

Democracy has its flaws, but fundamentally I still agree with it

A criminal is a criminal. The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

*sighs*

(emphasis mine)

[The New Sea Territory]

A criminal is a criminal.

Including the police officer.

The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

Well, they are. You're the fascist here. You're the one in the fantasy world.

Besides, the fact is, that the police officer received trauma to the head,

Bullshit. This came from a right-wing blog and had ZERO proof over ever happening. The body was found far away from his car, too.

the criminal was not shot to death

You're right, the cop wasn't shot to death.

and then decided to beat the officer.

Bull....Shit

It is obvious the criminal attacked the officer,

Well, no it wasn't because you have no proof of this claim.

and he rightly put that criminal down.

Yes, assault justifies death penalty. When you live outside the realm of reason, which as a fascist usually does, then everything becomes debatable....

[Republique della France]

A criminal is a criminal. The only reason they protested because they live in a fantasy world where Negroes are somehow oppressed.

Besides, the fact is, that the police officer received trauma to the head, the criminal was not shot to death and then decided to beat the officer.

It is obvious the criminal attacked the officer, and he rightly put that criminal down.

Can you source the second part? And I think you'll find that they generally are discriminated against, certainly less than before, but it is still there. Besides, can you in anyway link this to the point?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08 ... wn-report/

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/fe ... ce-sa.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... brown-bef/

[The New Sea Territory]

Can you source the second part? And I think you'll find that they generally are discriminated against, certainly less than before, but it is still there. Besides, can you in anyway link this to the point?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08 ... wn-report/

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/fe ... ce-sa.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... brown-bef/

None of those are reliable sources.

[Republique della France]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08 ... wn-report/

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/fe ... ce-sa.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... brown-bef/

None of those are reliable sources.

Nothing is a reliable source when your life is based internal bias.

[The New Sea Territory]

None of those are reliable sources.

Nothing is a reliable source when your life is based internal bias.

You are trying to say THE BLAZE is reliable. You're the one with the internal bias here. Stop projecting your faults onto me.

[Mollary]

Can you source the second part? And I think you'll find that they generally are discriminated against, certainly less than before, but it is still there. Besides, can you in anyway link this to the point?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08 ... wn-report/

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/fe ... ce-sa.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... brown-bef/

1 - That is still not fully proven, the case is still on going.
2 - Still wouldn't be worthy of shooting, there are alternatives to killing people.
3 - How does this prove democracy doesn't work?

[Republique della France]

Nothing is a reliable source when your life is based internal bias.

You are trying to say THE BLAZE is reliable. You're the one with the internal bias here. Stop projecting your faults onto me.

So what is it you're saying?

That the criminal that had just robbed a store is the innocent one here?

Besides, he was a criminal, and the life of a criminal is as important as a soda can tossed onto the side of a road.

[Republique della France]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08 ... wn-report/

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/08/fe ... ce-sa.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... brown-bef/

1 - That is still not fully proven, the case is still on going.
2 - Still wouldn't be worthy of shooting, there are alternatives to killing people.
3 - How does this prove democracy doesn't work?

Because democracy allows these kinds of hooligans to protest in the first place.

[Galloism]

You are trying to say THE BLAZE is reliable. You're the one with the internal bias here. Stop projecting your faults onto me.

So what is it you're saying?

That the criminal that had just robbed a store is the innocent one here?

Besides, he was a criminal, and the life of a criminal is as important as a soda can tossed onto the side of a road.

Which is why there is no such thing as a hostage negotiator and we take down all criminals via sniper/rocket propelled grenade.