Do you agree with Democracy?

[Rutuba]

I do not believe that democratically elected governments are in any way more legitimate than others, such as hereditary monarchies. And the question whether democracy is good or bad does not have one, simple answer. Different political regimes are good for different cultures, states, and periods of history.

[Herrebrugh]

Alright. Thanks for being so receptive



I wouldn't at all be surprised if he's making this all up.

You should not speak of people in the 3rd person when they are present.

Herrebrugh has never been told not to do so before, so he assumes it's probably not too big of a problem.

[The Fascist American Empire]

Personally, I'd like to see a class of philosopher-kings who are selected from among the most qualified people (around 7-10) to begin training in the arts of philosophy, honesty, military stately, economics, and political sciences. They are then selected on a popularity vote to office whenever an acting philosopher king dies or retires.

Of course, we all know that'll never happen.

[Zottistan]

The fact is, there are people out there who are too stupid to be given a say.

who are you to decide who that is?

Presumably he's a person with ethical values capable of passing judgement on a person's worth in actualizing those values?

[Republique della France]

As I've stated before, it was a joke that most people did not pick up on, which is why it was funny, to me and some other people who were in on it.

why should I believe that this isn't a joke, either?

If you believe it is a joke then you can leave if you want.

[Laerod]

Why?

Because it gives power to the ignorant, the individualist, the egotist, the idiot.

Describes a dictatorship equally well, if not better.

[Arglorand]

Personally, I'd like to see a class of philosopher-kings who are selected from among the most qualified people (around 7-10) to begin training in the arts of philosophy, honesty, military stately, economics, and political sciences. They are then selected on a popularity vote to office whenever an acting philosopher king dies or retires.

Of course, we all know that'll never happen.

It's peculiar how westerner putin fanboys always have views that deserve an almost public condemnation all on their own.

[Republique della France]

No, I believe democracy should be limited to communities, but the nation governed by a Consul, Proconsul, and a Senate.

Why not go further and give all secular and religious power, as it was in the truly old days, to the High Priest of Perun?

I am a Christian, and as such I believe the power of the church must be destroyed.

[Stormvag]

Not democracy in the sense that you would think. The democratic process of voting I wholeheartedly believe in but the frequent rule of mob side of democracy I don't agree with. It's like if two wolves and a sheep were voting on what they would have for lunch (you know what happens next ). Not everything everyone is doing is always right so rule of mob really could turn out bad in some situations and have major repercussions.

[Laerod]

Personally, I'd like to see a class of philosopher-kings who are selected from among the most qualified people (around 7-10) to begin training in the arts of philosophy, honesty, military stately, economics, and political sciences. They are then selected on a popularity vote to office whenever an acting philosopher king dies or retires.

Of course, we all know that'll never happen.

We tried something like that with Italy and Monti and it proved to not be very successful. In fact, they're getting rid of the Senate, which is primarily what you're asking for, and it's probably one of the best things to happen to Italy given the flaws of the chamber.

[Arglorand]

Why not go further and give all secular and religious power, as it was in the truly old days, to the High Priest of Perun?

I am a Christian, and as such I believe the power of the church must be destroyed.

I'm not sure you wrote those sentences right.

[Memell]

Because it gives power to the ignorant, the individualist, the egotist, the idiot.

Describes a dictatorship equally well, if not better.

...and your point is?

But that's a nice example of Whataboutism, anyways.

[Immoren]

Personally, I'd like to see a class of philosopher-kings who are selected from among the most qualified people (around 7-10) to begin training in the arts of philosophy, honesty, military stately, economics, and political sciences. They are then selected on a popularity vote to office whenever an acting philosopher king dies or retires.

Of course, we all know that'll never happen.

Obviously best kind of society is post-scarcity outwardly anarcho-communistic society that has group of benevolent "god" AIs gently tugging strings behind the scenes.

[Zottistan]

Because it gives power to the ignorant, the individualist, the egotist, the idiot.

Describes a dictatorship equally well, if not better.

Depends on the dictator.

And the general population, in the case of the democracy.

[Vaterstat]

I do not agree that democracy is the ultimate system of greatness in a sea of despotic ideologies. Democracy has some inherent flaws in its core principles: egalitarianism, majority rules, etc. I do believe that democracy should be implemented on a certain level, however, as citizens should participate in their state, but I do believe that when taken too far it can lead to very malevolent forces leading to national destruction. Good leadership, merit, etc. should take priority.

[Republique della France]

I am a Christian, and as such I believe the power of the church must be destroyed.

I'm not sure you wrote those sentences right.

Whether you are sure or not is irrelevant.

[Arglorand]

Personally, I'd like to see a class of philosopher-kings who are selected from among the most qualified people (around 7-10) to begin training in the arts of philosophy, honesty, military stately, economics, and political sciences. They are then selected on a popularity vote to office whenever an acting philosopher king dies or retires.

Of course, we all know that'll never happen.

Obviously best kind of society is post-scarcity outwardly anarcho-communistic society that has group of benevolent "god" AIs gently tugging strings behind the scenes.

So like Aldea from Star Trek, basically.

[Arglorand]

I'm not sure you wrote those sentences right.

Whether you are sure or not is irrelevant.

Don't cut yourself with all that edge.

[Immoren]

Obviously best kind of society is post-scarcity outwardly anarcho-communistic society that has group of benevolent "god" AIs gently tugging strings behind the scenes.

So like Aldea from Star Trek, basically.

No.
The Culture from Iain M. Bank's book series of same name.

[Laerod]

Describes a dictatorship equally well, if not better.

Depends on the dictator.

And the general population, in the case of the democracy.

Ergo equally well if not better =D

[Republique della France]

Whether you are sure or not is irrelevant.

Don't cut yourself with all that edge.

All you do is mock me, I do not wish to have to do it.

[Zottistan]

Depends on the dictator.

And the general population, in the case of the democracy.

Ergo equally well if not better =D

Well, the point was that it doesn't properly describe either.

[Indian Empire]

Yes, since we probably wouldn't be on Nationstates right now if there was no democracy.

[Obeyistan]

To a point and for certain types of democracy. First of all, democracy is just a means to a certain end, and that end is freedom, at least for me. Democracy in of itself is antithetical to anarchy, even direct democracy. However, achieving consensus isn't and I can accept consensus democracy easily.

[Arglorand]

Yes, since we probably would be on Nationstates right now if there was no democracy.

Well, I mean, technically that doesn't stop our local Russians, Belarusians, Qataris and what have you.