Do you agree with Democracy?

[Arglorand]

There we go.

What do you mean "there we go" ?

Exactly.

[Ifreann]

OP hijacks his own thread about democracy to talk about how Hitler did no wrong and the Holocaust never happened? Well clearly this gentleman is a valuable contributor to the Nation States community and we should all give his hateful lies and delusions our undivided attention and respond with the utmost of respect and civility.

[The Orson Empire]

The problem with democracy is it usually ends with "human liberalism" which then leads to things like homosexuals marrying, illegal immigrant amnesty, etc.

No, the problem with democracy is that it means that people who, for example, oppose homosexual marriage, have a vote.

You are both wrong. Everyone deserves to have a say in a democratic government, otherwise, it is not truly a democracy.

[Arglorand]

No, the problem with democracy is that it means that people who, for example, oppose homosexual marriage, have a vote.

You are both wrong. Everyone deserves to have a say in a democratic government, otherwise, it is not truly a democracy.

Exactly. Christ. This isn't high-end physics.

[The Orson Empire]

You have been lied to and deceived. Just because he is your grandfather does not mean he wouldn't lie to you.

... How do you know he lied? Do you know him or something?

Anyone who says the Holocaust did not happen is a liar.

[Othelos]

No, the problem with democracy is that it means that people who, for example, oppose homosexual marriage, have a vote.

You are both wrong. Everyone deserves to have a say in a democratic government, otherwise, it is not truly a democracy.

Agreed.

[Laerod]

The problem with democracy is it usually ends with "human liberalism" which then leads to things like homosexuals marrying, illegal immigrant amnesty, etc.

No, the problem with democracy is that it means that people who, for example, oppose homosexual marriage, have a vote.

In general, a functional democracy requires the enshrinement of basic rights. A democracy where the people can vote away the right to vote defeats the purpose of a democracy to begin with.

[The Orson Empire]

You are both wrong. Everyone deserves to have a say in a democratic government, otherwise, it is not truly a democracy.

Exactly. Christ. This isn't high-end physics.

Indeed. It's not that fucking difficult.

[-The Trade Federation-]

"The Holocaust never happened."

The noise a million facepalms make when someone says that...

I can just imagine this.

[Herrebrugh]

... How do you know he lied? Do you know him or something?

Anyone who says the Holocaust did not happen is a liar.

No...

"A lie is an intentionally false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not the whole truth.[1]"

This is actually one of my newest pet peeves.

[Shnercropolis]

No, the problem with democracy is that it means that people who, for example, oppose homosexual marriage, have a vote.

You are both wrong. Everyone deserves to have a say in a democratic government, otherwise, it is not truly a democracy.

"B-but then people who disagree with me might get in power! MUH FREEDOM!"

[Arglorand]

"The Holocaust never happened."

The noise a million facepalms make when someone says that...

I can just imagine this.

I don't just imagine it, I do my part to make that noise heard.

[Immoren]

You are both wrong. Everyone deserves to have a say in a democratic government, otherwise, it is not truly a democracy.

Exactly. Christ. This isn't high-end physics.

But physics is simple. D:

[The Orson Empire]

Anyone who says the Holocaust did not happen is a liar.

No...

"A lie is an intentionally false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not the whole truth.[1]"

This is actually one of my newest pet peeves.

Either he is lying or he is willfully ignorant.

[Fascist Republic Of Bermuda]

I am quite fine with elected representation in government, thank you very much.

Direct Democracy, at a large level, can't work. I prefer the U.S. system. It ain't prefect, but what system is?

I'm bringing up this quote from Churchill: "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others."

[Arglorand]

Exactly. Christ. This isn't high-end physics.

But physics is simple. D:

For everyone who thinks physics is simple, just replace "high-end physics" with "high-end whateveryoufinddifficult"

[Herrebrugh]

No...

"A lie is an intentionally false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not the whole truth.[1]"

This is actually one of my newest pet peeves.

Either he is lying or he is willfully ignorant.

So you agree it doesn't have to be lying? Because that's the point I'm trying to make here.

[Arglorand]

No...

"A lie is an intentionally false statement to a person or group made by another person or group who knows it is not the whole truth.[1]"

This is actually one of my newest pet peeves.

Either he is lying or he is willfully ignorant.

Or just imaginary.

[The Orson Empire]

Either he is lying or he is willfully ignorant.

So you agree it doesn't have to be lying? Because that's the point I'm trying to make here.

Yes.

[The Orson Empire]

Either he is lying or he is willfully ignorant.

Or just imaginary.

Wait, are you saying his grandfather doesn't exist?

[Zeouria]

I am quite fine with elected representation in government, thank you very much.

Direct Democracy, at a large level, can't work. I prefer the U.S. system. It ain't prefect, but what system is?

I'm bringing up this quote from Churchill: "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others."

Elaborate how Direct Democracy cannot work.

There's something called modern technology.

[The New Lowlands]

I am quite fine with elected representation in government, thank you very much.

Direct Democracy, at a large level, can't work. I prefer the U.S. system. It ain't prefect, but what system is?

I'm bringing up this quote from Churchill: "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the others."

But muh switzerlands

[Republique della France]

I'm going to ignore all the posters insulting my grandfather and the other ones calling me delusional, and continue with the discussion.



The point is, there are people in society who deserve no political voice.

[Arglorand]

I'm going to ignore all the posters insulting my grandfather and the other ones calling me delusional, and continue with the discussion.



The point is, there are people in society who deserve no political voice.

That's an incredibly disconnected from reality point.

[Republique della France]

Either he is lying or he is willfully ignorant.

Or just imaginary.

You should stop calling me delusional, you really should.