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Do you agree with Democracy?

Yes
204
54%
No
105
28%
I believe Alpacas are smug, and prideful
67
18%
 
Total votes : 376

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The Orson Empire
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Founded: Mar 20, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:35 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:You shouldn't be so certain. I mean, you aren't going to believe something that has mountains of evidence supporting it simply because your grandfather said it didn't happen? That's ridiculous.

I was homeschooled by him. He never lied to me.

He lied to you. He is probably a Holocaust denier.

I am telling you man, the Holocaust happened. There is no evidence that suggests the Holocaust did not happen.

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Shnercropolis
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Ex-Nation

Postby Shnercropolis » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:36 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I believe you.

Good. First ten converts to the cult get deified.

I myself am the vice-pope of the cult of Jebediah Kerman. We eat only with spoons, because forks are the tentacles of the Deep Space Kraken.
it is my firm belief that I should never have to justify my beliefs.

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Laerod
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Founded: Jul 17, 2004
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Postby Laerod » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:36 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Laerod wrote:Or a figment of RdF's imagination.


Hmm... Yes, possibly.

Read some of the zanier shit that RdF has posted. I'm not even convinced he's actually French.

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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:36 pm

Republique della France wrote:Here is a video claiming proof of no holocaust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieE22Apyn0Q

You are really going to use a Youtube video as evidence?

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Immoren
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Founded: Mar 20, 2010
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Postby Immoren » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Republique della France wrote:Here is a video claiming proof of no holocaust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieE22Apyn0Q

And here's a video claiming that the Earth is flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ih_Qq-WBYY


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IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Laerod
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Postby Laerod » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Hey, I just remembered: The topic is "Do you agree with Democracy?"

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Republique della France
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Laerod wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Hmm... Yes, possibly.

Read some of the zanier shit that RdF has posted. I'm not even convinced he's actually French.

I am not French.

I am Basque.

And what I said before I admitted was just me being bored and saying things to say them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Laerod wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Hmm... Yes, possibly.

Read some of the zanier shit that RdF has posted. I'm not even convinced he's actually French.

There's an easy way to test that.

RdF, please say something in Basque.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Zeouria
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Postby Zeouria » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Read 'night' by Elie vessel
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The Orson Empire
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Founded: Mar 20, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Laerod wrote:Hey, I just remembered: The topic is "Do you agree with Democracy?"

Oh my, we seemed to have threadjacked.

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Republique della France
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Founded: Sep 04, 2014
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:37 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Laerod wrote:Read some of the zanier shit that RdF has posted. I'm not even convinced he's actually French.

There's an easy way to test that.

RdF, please say something in Basque.

I don't speak Basque. I was born there but raised mostly in Spain, USA, and lived for 3 years in France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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Herrebrugh
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:38 pm

Laerod wrote:Hey, I just remembered: The topic is "Do you agree with Democracy?"


Good point.

It beats non-democracy in my eyes, so yeah, democracy can stay.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Immoren
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Postby Immoren » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:38 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Immoren wrote:
I believe you.

Good. First ten converts to the cult get deified.


Pope AND another deification.
I am on a roll this year.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:38 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Arglorand wrote:There's an easy way to test that.

RdF, please say something in Basque.

I don't speak Basque. I was born there but raised mostly in Spain, USA, and lived for 3 years in France.

There we go.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Republique della France
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Founded: Sep 04, 2014
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:38 pm

Zeouria wrote:Read 'night' by Elie vessel

I have. It is a short book, and moving, but that doesn't mean its true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Immoren wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Good. First ten converts to the cult get deified.


Pope AND another deification.
I am on a roll this year.

Have a pick: Svarog or Dazhbog?
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Republique della France
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Founded: Sep 04, 2014
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Republique della France wrote:I don't speak Basque. I was born there but raised mostly in Spain, USA, and lived for 3 years in France.

There we go.

What do you mean "there we go" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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The Orson Empire
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Founded: Mar 20, 2012
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Zeouria wrote:Read 'night' by Elie vessel

I have. It is a short book, and moving, but that doesn't mean its true.

You have been lied to and deceived. Just because he is your grandfather does not mean he wouldn't lie to you.
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Herrebrugh
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Republique della France wrote:I don't speak Basque. I was born there but raised mostly in Spain, USA, and lived for 3 years in France.

There we go.


Ooh. This is like the time I asked a pretend-German nazi to speak German. That went well...
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


The Factbook of the Kingdom of the Herrebrugh Islands
Where the Website-Style Factbook Originated!

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Othelos
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Founded: Feb 05, 2013
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Postby Othelos » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:39 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Zeouria wrote:Read 'night' by Elie vessel

I have. It is a short book, and moving, but that doesn't mean its true.

you know what proves something true?

That it happened. Like the holocaust.
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Zottistan
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Postby Zottistan » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:40 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Zottistan wrote:A progressive democracy is preferable to an unprogressive oligarchy or autocracy.

A progressive oligarchy or autocracy is preferable to an unprogressive democracy.

Democracy is a means to an ends and not an end-in-itself. With the right populace, it can be great. With the wrong populace, it can suck.

The problem with democracy is it usually ends with "human liberalism" which then leads to things like homosexuals marrying, illegal immigrant amnesty, etc.

No, the problem with democracy is that it means that people who, for example, oppose homosexual marriage, have a vote.
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Scomagia
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:40 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Republique della France wrote:I have. It is a short book, and moving, but that doesn't mean its true.

You have been lied to and deceived. Just because he is your grandfather does not mean he wouldn't lie to you.

Yep. Still, Holocaust denying grandfather aside, we should get moving back to the topic.
Insert trite farewell here

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Zeouria
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Founded: Jun 24, 2014
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Postby Zeouria » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:41 pm

Zeouria wrote:Direct Democracy is very much feasible nowadays, with our modern technologies. I'm saying, though, heiarchy shouldn't exist anywhere, but rather it should be taken down in places it isn't required and should be voluntary.

Any who, my position currently.
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Herrebrugh
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:41 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Republique della France wrote:I have. It is a short book, and moving, but that doesn't mean its true.

You have been lied to and deceived. Just because he is your grandfather does not mean he wouldn't lie to you.


... How do you know he lied? Do you know him or something?
Last edited by Herrebrugh on Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


The Factbook of the Kingdom of the Herrebrugh Islands
Where the Website-Style Factbook Originated!

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Immoren
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Founded: Mar 20, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:41 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Pope AND another deification.
I am on a roll this year.

Have a pick: Svarog or Dazhbog?


I think I'll steal Dažbog's mantle.
Maybe put Discordian spin on it.
IC Flag Is a Pope Principia
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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