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Do you agree with Democracy?

Yes
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54%
No
105
28%
I believe Alpacas are smug, and prideful
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18%
 
Total votes : 376

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:25 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:So they live closer to the death camps, where you can literally see mass graves... and they don't believe it?
:eyebrow:

Yes.

I thought it was common knowledge that Europeans don't really believe the holocaust happened.

I'm sorry to tell you that you are not the only citizen of the European continent.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:26 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Scomagia wrote:No it isn't. Also, I was waiting for you to say this. You were so neatly tap-dancing around it that I had a strong feeling you would.

It's no secret masses of people, especially Europeans do not believe the holocaust happened.

feel free to provide evidence of that.
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Republique della France
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:27 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Republique della France wrote:Yes.

I thought it was common knowledge that Europeans don't really believe the holocaust happened.

Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:27 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Republique della France wrote:Yes.

I thought it was common knowledge that Europeans don't really believe the holocaust happened.

Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

agreed
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:27 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.

There was a Holocaust. Anecdotes are worthless.
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:27 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.

A dude I talked to once on Reddit said his mother was an alien.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.


....funny that.
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Republique della France
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Republique della France wrote:Yes.

I thought it was common knowledge that Europeans don't really believe the holocaust happened.

That is a crock of shit. Who told you that?

I am Basque. I've lived in Spain and France for many years, and all the other people my age when we would discuss politics agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:That is a crock of shit. Who told you that?

I am Basque. I've lived in Spain and France for many years, and all the other people my age when we would discuss politics agreed.

If your age is 7, then perhaps.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.

clearly, he MUST be right.
American & German, ich kann auch Deutsch. I have a B.S. in finance.
Pro: Human rights, equality, LGBT rights, socialized healthcare, the EU in theory, green energy, public transportation, the internet as a utility
Anti: Authoritarian regimes and systems, the Chinese government, identity politics, die AfD, populism, organized religion, Erdogan, assault weapon ownership
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.

Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

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Celesburg
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Postby Celesburg » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:are you a troll or something? I find it hard to believe that anyone could believe in this.

No, I am not a 'troll."

Ostpreussen needed to be connected to the rest of Germany. Why would any nation accept to be divided by the whims of another?

As German I strongly believe that you are wrong.
Just keep in mind that the NSDAP knew that they'll start a big war when they attack Poland and if you see how destroyed Germany was after ww2 and how much territory they lost you'll realized that it wasnt worth it.
And lack of connection with Ostpreußen wasnt a problem.
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Laerod
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Postby Laerod » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:28 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Laerod wrote:A referendum that was botched and unfair even by the standards the Nazis set for unfair elections in the referendum to the Austrian Anschluss.

Any non-American/EU, completely unbiased evidence?

And no, anybody could edit wikipedia... It is not a source.

Yeah, try looking at the ballot. The options were "Stop belonging to Ukraine" and "Start belonging to Russia". Even the Nazis offered two genuinely different options.

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Kraslavia
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Postby Kraslavia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:29 pm

Republique della France wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Beautiful aside from the Ghettos and Genocide, of course.

The genocide is up for debate as to whether or not it even happened.

Dear Republique della France FOLLOW YOUR LEADER.
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AGAINST: Laissez-faire, Stalinism, Bolshevism,Fascism, Inequality and Suprematism, Religion in Politics, Uncontrolled Capitalism,Putinism
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The New Lowlands
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:29 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:That is a crock of shit. Who told you that?

I am Basque. I've lived in Spain and France for many years, and all the other people my age when we would discuss politics agreed.

Maybe because the people you surround yourself with are fascists like yourself?

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Republique della France
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:29 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:
Republique della France wrote:"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.

Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

My point is, that my grandfather would not have lied to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:29 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Speaking as a European, that's bullshit.

"Lowlands"

You must be Dutch?

Listen, pal.

My grandfather (A Frenchmen from Marseilles) served in the SS-Charlemagne, and he told me himself that there was never any holocaust.

Then your grandfather is a liar.

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:29 pm

Laerod wrote:
The Fascist American Empire wrote:Any non-American/EU, completely unbiased evidence?

And no, anybody could edit wikipedia... It is not a source.

Yeah, try looking at the ballot. The options were "Stop belonging to Ukraine" and "Start belonging to Russia". Even the Nazis offered two genuinely different options.

Sensible people would make their own options, like the dude who wrote "Dutin is a pickhead" all over the ballot.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Republique della France
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

Kraslavia wrote:
Republique della France wrote:The genocide is up for debate as to whether or not it even happened.

Dear Republique della France FOLLOW YOUR LEADER.

I am not a Nazi, I do not like Nazism. It is very dark and almost otherworldly evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goXvk2w ... 1410138026

I am a Fascist. My grandparents served in the Charlemagne-SS and the Spanish Blue Division, they fought to defend Europe from what it is today: A Marxist Multicultural craphole.

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Scomagia
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

My point is, that my grandfather would not have lied to me.

The Holocaust happened. Your grandfather lied. Get over it.
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

My point is, that my grandfather would not have lied to me.

Your grandfather served in the goddamn SS.

His opinion is invalid on this subject.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Othelos
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Postby Othelos » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

My point is, that my grandfather would not have lied to me.

sure, man, keep believing that.
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Postby Laerod » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

Why would you dignify his claim with that?

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Kraslavia
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Postby Kraslavia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

My point is, that my grandfather would not have lied to me.


Your Grandpa was propaby very proud of his Hugo Boss uniform. Right?
THE COALITION OF GOVERNAMENTS
PRO:Liberal Democratic Socialism,Left-Communism,Federalism, Direct Democracy, Left-Minarchism, Freedom of Religion, Sexual Freedom
AGAINST: Laissez-faire, Stalinism, Bolshevism,Fascism, Inequality and Suprematism, Religion in Politics, Uncontrolled Capitalism,Putinism
POLITICAL COMPASS: Economic Left/Right: -8.25, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
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The Orson Empire
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:30 pm

Republique della France wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Because he's completely unbiased. Let's compare your anecdote to the mountains of evidence, shall we?

My point is, that my grandfather would not have lied to me.

You shouldn't be so certain. I mean, you aren't going to believe something that has mountains of evidence supporting it simply because your grandfather said it didn't happen? That's ridiculous.

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