Thoughts on the President

[Joan Rangers]

His biggest mistake was being Naive and letting his opponents realize and take advantage of it.

That's it. Don't blame Obama for Obama's faults. Blame the Republicans. Just ignore the fact that from 2008-2010 the Dems controlled both the House and Senate. It's those evil Republicans.

I didn't say it was his only mistake, I said it was his biggest one.

[Laerod]

His biggest mistake was being Naive and letting his opponents realize and take advantage of it.

That's it. Don't blame Obama for Obama's faults. Blame the Republicans. Just ignore the fact that from 2008-2010 the Dems controlled both the House and Senate. It's those evil Republicans.

We don't. The Democrat controlled congress is arguably one of the most productive in the history of the United States. As soon as the Republicans gained control of the house, it became the least productive in terms of bills since they started counting in 1947. It's inability to do anything has only been surpassed by the 113th Congress, again with a Republican House majority.

[Valica]

As with most liberal presidents, his economic policies were sub par.
His healthcare plan, in my opinion, was garbage and should have been replaced with universal health-care similar to what is used in Canada.

"We can't just go from free market health-care to universal that quick!"
Shut up.
Yes we can.

Similarly, as with most liberal presidents, his social policies are great.
I like that, under his presidency, LGBT groups have made such great advances.
Not only that, but he pulled tons of troops out of the Middle East.

Though we might have to send more back to stop the crISIS.

Overall 6/10. Above average, but he could have been better.
He fucked around too much in his first term and didn't get enough done.
You can't blame it all on Congress or the House. He could have done more.

[Joan Rangers]

As with most liberal presidents, his economic policies were sub par.
His healthcare plan, in my opinion, was garbage and should have been replaced with universal health-care similar to what is used in Canada.

"We can't just go from free market health-care to universal that quick!"
Shut up.
Yes we can.

I don't think so, not without some extensive reform of how our country is run.

[MERIZoC]

He's alright. Better than the 4 before him.

[Joan Rangers]

He's alright. Better than the 4 before him.

You think Carter was better?

[Ashmoria]

His biggest mistake was being Naive and letting his opponents realize and take advantage of it.

That's it. Don't blame Obama for Obama's faults. Blame the Republicans. Just ignore the fact that from 2008-2010 the Dems controlled both the House and Senate. It's those evil Republicans.

but I love what the dems did when they had total control.

that wasn't really total control but was as close as you can get in our system

[Murkwood]

That's it. Don't blame Obama for Obama's faults. Blame the Republicans. Just ignore the fact that from 2008-2010 the Dems controlled both the House and Senate. It's those evil Republicans.

We don't. The Democrat controlled congress is arguably one of the most productive in the history of the United States. As soon as the Republicans gained control of the house, it became the least productive in terms of bills since they started counting in 1947. It's inability to do anything has only been surpassed by the 113th Congress, again with a Republican House majority.

Why is passing more bills a good thing? I'm happy this Congress is the least productive.

[Laerod]

We don't. The Democrat controlled congress is arguably one of the most productive in the history of the United States. As soon as the Republicans gained control of the house, it became the least productive in terms of bills since they started counting in 1947. It's inability to do anything has only been surpassed by the 113th Congress, again with a Republican House majority.

Why is passing more bills a good thing? I'm happy this Congress is the least productive.

Then you are a statistical outlier =D

[Murkwood]

Why is passing more bills a good thing? I'm happy this Congress is the least productive.

Then you are a statistical outlier =D

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

[Ifreann]

Then you are a statistical outlier =D

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

Who said that more bills are better?

[Laerod]

Then you are a statistical outlier =D

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

You don't get to reverse the burden of proof merely by phrasing a question.

[Lalaki]

Just ignore the fact that from 2008-2010 the Dems controlled both the House and Senate.

When they passed a stimulus, the Affordable Care Act, and many other things that can't get done today. If Democrats held both houses of Congress Obama would have been able to see much more of his plan fulfilled.

[Kelinfort]

Then you are a statistical outlier =D

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

More bills is better than inaction when there are fifty different issues we could at least try to resolve/reduce.

[Laerod]

When they passed a stimulus, the Affordable Care Act, and many other things that can't get done today. If Democrats held both houses of Congress Obama would have been able to see much more of his plan fulfilled.

Murkwood might (possibly) posit the valid argument that they don't consider Obama's plans good ones. The issue really is that almost nothing is being done despite there being pressing concerns in a number of areas, the most common being the budget.

[Murkwood]

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

You don't get to reverse the burden of proof merely by phrasing a question.

Since when does the burden of proof lie on me?

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

More bills is better than inaction when there are fifty different issues we could at least try to resolve/reduce.

That's your opinion. If you don't believe big government fixes all problems, it's not.

[Murkwood]

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

Who said that more bills are better?

Laerod posited that more bills = better Congress.

[Republic of Coldwater]

Barack Obama is an overall bad president with policies and ideas that have failed, and most of America tend to take that stance. Not only has he given up on his election message of more civil liberties, he has expanded the NSA's PRISM program, re-authorized the PATRIOT Act, continued Guantanamo and suspended Habeas Corpus in the 2012 NDAA, which takes away the human right for Habeas Corpus and violates the 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Amendments. His corporatist policy of the PPACA (ObamaCare) has added a lot of people into the HealthCare market, many of which don't want the HealthCare, but are mandated anyways. Premiums have increased as the doctor-patient ratio increasing dramatically at the patient rate will inevitably increase waiting times and hurt the quality of HealthCare for those who really need it. It also prevents young people who don't want to spend much on Health Insurance from buying cheap plans as they do not meet the relatively high end requirements mandated in the law. This will hurt the quality of HealthCare, hurt doctors, hurt hospitals, hurt customers, and many are loosing their HealthCare they are fine with because they do not meet the standards of ObamaCare, and would be forced to buy a more expensive plan or pay a fine that increases every year. Obama also supports the massive Bailouts done by the Federal Reserve and opposes an audit of the largely opaque system which spent almost the entire value of our debt on corporate and bank welfare, whilst they devalue or dollar with their irresponsible and fraudulent Fractional Banking System which results in market volatility and things such as the Great Recession of 08 and the Great Depression.

Overall Obama should've followed his campaign message, and if he did, he would be more supported amongst the populace of America.

[Jocabia]

Then you are a statistical outlier =D

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

Well, it's not as if they've been inactive. There was that 20 billion dollar shutdown that slowed the economy and lost jobs. You're right to say that it's not the fact that they passed fewer bills that is the problem. The problem is that not only have they not solved any of our very important problems, but they've wasted our time in attempts to create problems for the President.

And the issue with creating problems for the President is that he is the elected President of the United States. He's a representative of the people and the people's agenda. The problems they've created are problems for the United States as whole. It ranges from wasteful votes that are just bluster meant to give them something to talk about in election season to refusing to absolutely necessary veteran's care while veterans died to a government shutdown to refusing to do any infrastructure work to putting up roadblocks in the way of the ACA health care law, which whether they like it or not is the law, to wasting money and resources investigating the same things over and over hoping to find absolutely anything to hang the President with.

They aren't just doing nothing. They are actively harming the United States. Should we be surprised? Of course not. They said out loud that their number one agenda item is to harm the President. It's not to serve their constituents or the United States. It's not to do what is best for our country, our people or even anyone in particular. It's simply to do what is best for their party's success in elections. Some people like that kind of terrible behavior. Apparently, you're one of them. However, it should not be surprising to you that people who actually give a shit about what is best for the country would like Congress to solve some problems instead of creating more.

[Brickistan]

You didn't answer the question. Why are more bills better?

More bills is better than inaction when there are fifty different issues we could at least try to resolve/reduce.

This...

America has suffered for years as its government continues to be caught in a gridlock.

More bills are not necessarily a good thing. But being unable to pass any bill at all is most certainly a bad thing.

America has some really serious issues, especially concerning healthcare, education, and wealth inequality. And yet, nothing is done about it...

[Ifreann]

Who said that more bills are better?

Laerod posited that more bills = better Congress.

No he didn't. He pointed out that the Democrat controlled Congress you referred to was arguably the most productive on record. Here's the post in question.

[Murkwood]

Laerod posited that more bills = better Congress.

No he didn't. He pointed out that the Democrat controlled Congress you referred to was arguably the most productive on record. Here's the post in question.

And he meant that as a positive.

[Ifreann]

No he didn't. He pointed out that the Democrat controlled Congress you referred to was arguably the most productive on record. Here's the post in question.

And he meant that as a positive.

I didn't think so, not in the sense that you mean, but I'm sure Laerod can explain himself.

[Napkiraly]

He's alright. Better than the 4 before him.

You think Carter was better?

The four before were Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush.

[Valica]

You think Carter was better?

The four before were Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush.

Joan Rangers saying that he thinks Merizoc thinks Carter was better because he said 4 instead of 5, thus implying that Carter was better.