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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:51 am

Barry Soetoro is a loyal puppet of the International Communist Conspiracy who has done alot of great things like destroying capitalism and weakening those pesky conservative values.

But things will be even better once he puts all Republicans in the FEMA concentration camps and turns the USA into the United Socialist Caliphate of America.
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Postby Socialist Tera » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:11 am

He's ok. Not the best but considering it's the US we are talking about, he is ok.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:21 am

Why would the 'Most powerful man on Earth' not go to greater lengths to destroy his political enemies? I suspect it's either because they aren't really his enemies, or he isn't as powerful as he seems to be. Or more likely, both.
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:37 am

He could be worse.
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Postby Alizeria » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:03 am

Cata Larga wrote:Indecisive, weak, and milquetoast to the point of impotence. Certainly less so than Mitt Romney would have been, however.

Honestly, now that I can see where we are now, I kinda would have preferred McCain in 2008, even taking into account Palin's gaffes. Not accounting for Clinton or Edwards having won the primary instead, however.


This actually sums my views up perfectly. Very well worded.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:15 am

Michael D. is pretty cool. Would have been nice if Norris had won, but Michael D. is good too.

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Postby Arkolon » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:27 am

5.5/10
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Postby Jocabia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:51 am

Herskerstad wrote:I think of him as a reverse Midas.

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I believe that title goes to the Neocons. As I pointed out, about a week ago.
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Postby Murkwood » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:55 am

Calimera II wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:He's not that bad. He is much better than Romney would have been.

Romney would have done a better job probably.

Probably? Most definitely so.
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Postby Calimera II » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:01 am

Murkwood wrote:
Calimera II wrote:Romney would have done a better job probably.

Probably? Most definitely so.


Obamacare was a really important factor for me to choose for whom I would have voted:
I am convinced that Romneycare works 100 times better than Obamacare.

But still, socially Obama isn't doing that bad.
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Postby Alcase » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:12 am

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The Fascist American Empire wrote:Last I heard, he was in perfect health. Being in such a stressful job is supposed to slowly kill you, but I guess all that golf and all that not working on the crises at hand (ISIS, Ukraine, the border) is pretty relaxing.


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Postby The Scientific States » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:01 am

Calimera II wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Probably? Most definitely so.


Obamacare was a really important factor for me to choose for whom I would have voted:
I am convinced that Romneycare works 100 times better than Obamacare.

But still, socially Obama isn't doing that bad.


ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:03 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Obamacare was a really important factor for me to choose for whom I would have voted:
I am convinced that Romneycare works 100 times better than Obamacare.

But still, socially Obama isn't doing that bad.


ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.

ObamaCare has death panels!

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Postby Skeckoa » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:31 am

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:Obama, like the vast majority of Presidents (except Washington, Lincoln, Teddy and FDR) left America in a worse shape than it was before. Although I commend him for his support of LGBTQ Rights, and sorta commend him for his 'leaving' of Iraq, he appoints lobbyists and loosens they're rules, also NSA, Guantanamo, NSA, Drones, NSA, NSA, did I also mention NSA?

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Postby Calimera II » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:36 am

The Scientific States wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Obamacare was a really important factor for me to choose for whom I would have voted:
I am convinced that Romneycare works 100 times better than Obamacare.

But still, socially Obama isn't doing that bad.


ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.


And ObamaCare is way more expensive.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:36 am

He could be better, but he could also be a republican so I'll take what we have.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:58 pm

My one complaint is that he worked too much with the other side. He compromised too much on his plan. He gave up on the public option, possible single payer, and left many of the wealthy Bush tax cuts in, etc.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:14 pm

I narrowly voted for him last time around, because I didn't believe in Romney's vision for the next 4 years.

Personally, if I had to give Obama a grade, it'd be a C-

Staying out of Iraq was a good idea at the time, but seeing how ISIL has taken control of the area.... maybe he should've looked into it further. He made a lot of promises in 2008, promises that gave me hope for a brighter America. Those were promises he did not keep. He knew full well we were going into a Recession, but he still assured everyone that we'd have a balanced budget a unemployment back at Clinton numbers. He knew that wasn't going to happen, but he made that promise anyway and then blamed Bush when his plans didn't fall through. Then the Obamacare fiasco....Then there was increased NSA surveillance. I know Bush started it, but Obama has took it further than the previous administration. Way further. Git-Mo is open, so there's that. Lastly, and most importantly...he failed to take a stand against Citizens United. Corporations aren't people, most Americans agree with that statement, but Koch and Soros can now buy elections, with no consequences.

Now here's what I like. Obama supports the LGBT community, even though he won't take federal action on what is obviously a civil rights issue....but "support" none the less. He's a lame duck, he's got nothing to lose. The military operation in Libya went pretty well, and killing Bin Laden was an accomplishment. Even though he hasn't kept his promise on the economy, it's getting better. The deficit has gone from 1.7 trillion to under 600 billion. Nothing to sneeze at. Finally, climate change....no President since Jimmy Carter has so actively pursued clean energy and pollution control.

He's not a good president, but we could've done much worse. I'm not happy with Obama, but I'm happy he beat the other guys. But we also could've done MUCH better. His name was Jon Huntsman.
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:16 pm

Calimera II wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.


And ObamaCare is way more expensive.


Well of course where ensuring or at least trying to insure a entire country not a state...
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Postby Calimera II » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:20 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
And ObamaCare is way more expensive.


Well of course where ensuring or at least trying to insure a entire country not a state...

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Postby Skappola » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:27 pm

I moderately dislike him. He's a mediocre diplomat who has failed to follow up on his promises. What the US needs right now is a strong leader to send us in one way or the other, whether it be towards austerity measures or increased economic interventionism. It needs a leader who can decisively lead this country and restore consumer confidence. Obama is essentially the opposite of what we need. He flip-flops incessantly and was unable to lead his party to fixing the nation's economy and regaining the respect of its peers. I'm not overly confident that Hillary will be any better.
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Postby Sheltopolis » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:03 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Obamacare was a really important factor for me to choose for whom I would have voted:
I am convinced that Romneycare works 100 times better than Obamacare.

But still, socially Obama isn't doing that bad.


ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.


Romney didn't institute it, in fact he vetoed that law several times, which the liberal-run legislature of Massachusetts overrode.
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Postby Republique della France » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:10 pm

I hate Barack Obama with all my soul, and the rest of them.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:13 pm

Sheltopolis wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.


Romney didn't institute it, in fact he vetoed that law several times, which the liberal-run legislature of Massachusetts overrode.

You may have your own opinions. You do not get your own facts.

Romney line-item vetoed 8 provisions, and signed the rest of the law. The legislature then overrode those 8 provisions he vetoed.
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Postby Murkwood » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:16 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
Obamacare was a really important factor for me to choose for whom I would have voted:
I am convinced that Romneycare works 100 times better than Obamacare.

But still, socially Obama isn't doing that bad.


ObamaCare is incredibly similar to the healthcare system that Romney instituted in Massachussets.

Not too similar, really.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Obamac ... Romneycare
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/11/13/r ... fferences/
http://spectator.org/articles/36046/oba ... difference
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